tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post1803343322767401837..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: Debt Rattle, November 5 2008: BittersweetnessIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-5322646347293456072008-11-06T14:32:00.000-05:002008-11-06T14:32:00.000-05:00hmm, that didn't work, wonder what I did wrong, oh...hmm, that didn't work, wonder what I did wrong, oh well here's the cut and paste<BR/><BR/>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/06/patriotism/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-4238889865701423952008-11-06T14:30:00.000-05:002008-11-06T14:30:00.000-05:00Ahimsa and GSJ - Thanks As usual Sharon Astyk said...Ahimsa and GSJ - Thanks <BR/><BR/>As usual Sharon Astyk said what I was trying to say better than I could, <A HREF="" REL="nofollow"> Here </A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-19708675285859079382008-11-06T12:39:00.000-05:002008-11-06T12:39:00.000-05:00I will keep my place in MT because it's irreplacea...I will keep my place in MT because it's irreplaceable. The daughters can use it if they want to go hunting or need a bug out.<BR/>They like it here, at least they moved to the PNW away from what I would expect to be one of the battleground cities.<BR/>I always liked S America, and I'm very close friends with all my first wife's family in Argentina. Half hour hydroplane ride away.VLADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303463697333210934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-35748601501780188732008-11-06T12:36:00.000-05:002008-11-06T12:36:00.000-05:00Since folks here are supposed to be a little hip t...Since folks here are supposed to be a little hip to "herd dynamics" - I think it's worth looking at the herd right now.<BR/><BR/>Whatever else is going on- the herd has been dramatically redirected, and reanimated. My guess is most of us would say in positive ways and directions.<BR/><BR/>That's a very non-trivial accomplishment- and I have to say it is an accomplishment; not an accident.<BR/><Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-12429084291937993282008-11-06T12:29:00.000-05:002008-11-06T12:29:00.000-05:00Brian M. - I wish I could express myself half as w...Brian M. - I wish I could express myself half as well as you do. You are a great writer and that was a great comment.<BR/><BR/>Anon 10:38 - I didn't vote for McCain or Obama. I didn't vote for McCain primarily because he supports the Iraq War (if not its expansion)and has gone out his way over the years to block any meaningful investigation into the Vietnam POW/MIA issue. Also, I saw him as a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-69178363174091150532008-11-06T12:24:00.000-05:002008-11-06T12:24:00.000-05:00Stone,I always liked reading your posts ever since...Stone,<BR/>I always liked reading your posts ever since TOD CA.<BR/>Maybe because we see things in a similar way, and you seem to get the force alignments behind the scenes.<BR/><BR/>If you want to know where NObama is going, study Menem in Argentina.<BR/>Bitch of the IMF.<BR/><BR/>Most American civilians never even heard of "maskirovka", babes in the woods.VLADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303463697333210934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-84588103805867840672008-11-06T11:23:00.000-05:002008-11-06T11:23:00.000-05:00Brian M, you said it so well and so balanced. Than...Brian M, you said it so well and so balanced. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Most of us who read TAE are quite cognizant of what Greyzone and others have expressed. At the moment, though, we're enjoying the uplifting election results. Our hope might turn out to be ephemeral, but it's not foolish.<BR/><BR/>Prepare for the worse and hope for the best.<BR/><BR/>AhimsaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-91033857798302233262008-11-06T10:59:00.000-05:002008-11-06T10:59:00.000-05:00Gas down - Driving up. People will behave in acc...<A HREF="http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Oil/idUSTRE4A36OM20081104" REL="nofollow">Gas down - Driving up.</A><BR/><BR/> People will behave in accordance with the most cynical economic model of themselves that they know.The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-19454685302454498902008-11-06T10:43:00.000-05:002008-11-06T10:43:00.000-05:00Again and again the analogy I see is Lincoln. A s...Again and again the analogy I see is Lincoln. A senator from Illinois. He was in the back pocket of the railway corporations for most of his career. He saw the civil war coming, but was unable to prevent it. Some of his opponents tried to blame the civil war on his election, but that charge never really stuck, too many people could see that it was bound to happen anyway. And he just wasn't aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-55400644664265572382008-11-06T10:38:00.000-05:002008-11-06T10:38:00.000-05:00GSJ - stupid comment: "Reading many of the comment...GSJ - stupid comment: "Reading many of the comments today make me think that, contrary to Dr. King's sentiments, Obama has gotten a big pass solely because of his skin color."<BR/><BR/>So, you think McCain was a more qualified choice for president based on the content of his character? <BR/><BR/>Please explain yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-27559994959109836162008-11-06T10:37:00.000-05:002008-11-06T10:37:00.000-05:00Bluebird commented on “The Fed as a central bank t...Bluebird commented on <BR/>“The Fed as a central bank to the world “<BR/><BR/>I think this article shows what a complex system we are dealing with here and that sometimes it's the opposite that happens. As it says:<BR/> “The U.S. dollar's status as the main currency of international and central bank business has barely been tarnished by the whole sorry credit crisis. The flight to the perceived Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-37932269659696031822008-11-06T09:14:00.000-05:002008-11-06T09:14:00.000-05:00Musashi,I know what you mean, and it's difficult t...Musashi,<BR/><BR/>I know what you mean, and it's difficult to be too cynical these days. I don't expect any real discontinuity in how the financial crisis is being handled or who it is being handled by. More's the pity, as that means making things even worse later than they might have been, while consolidating an even larger power grab behind the scenes. <BR/><BR/>Obama is essentially the Stoneleighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15099878430757036461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-67243543584399623342008-11-06T08:42:00.000-05:002008-11-06T08:42:00.000-05:00mrmoto's posting the article about The Fed as a ce...mrmoto's posting the article about The Fed as a central bank to the world<BR/><BR/>So the U.S. is setting itself up as the lender to anyone and everyone, such that when the global collapse occurs, that the U.S. will be the last country to fail?bluebirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600634086150466162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-13310763977624909402008-11-06T07:23:00.000-05:002008-11-06T07:23:00.000-05:00x"But is Ron Paul known to be of the tin-foil pers...x<BR/><BR/>"But is Ron Paul known to be of the tin-foil persuasion? '<BR/><BR/>Yes, but that is not necessarily a negative.<BR/><BR/>"Either way, I'm glad the lives of my family and I are not dependent on long- OR short-term treasuries."<BR/><BR/>OK. I give up. Is it faith in Jesus, gold, or both?el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-43290358337510137322008-11-06T05:21:00.000-05:002008-11-06T05:21:00.000-05:00Hello All,An Anon mentioned yesterday that we shou...Hello All,<BR/><BR/>An Anon mentioned yesterday that we should lay off Obama. I tend to follow suit not because I think Obama has much of a chance (I think Stoneleigh is correct), but because reality will certainly impose itself all too quickly.<BR/><BR/>I think it is remarkable that the U.S. voted for the guy. It is uplifting, so I agree, one should let everyone have a few days off just to feel Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-11471462922731900012008-11-06T04:41:00.000-05:002008-11-06T04:41:00.000-05:00Question for everyone: Alex Jones is an dummy. Bu...Question for everyone: Alex Jones is an dummy. But is Ron Paul known to be of the tin-foil persuasion? <BR/><BR/>Either way, I'm glad the lives of my family and I are not dependent on long- OR short-term treasuries. From what I understand, Ron Paul is not one intentionally issue diversion tactics. <BR/><BR/>--------------------------------<BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-35576185990832420672008-11-06T02:13:00.000-05:002008-11-06T02:13:00.000-05:00Thank-you Ilargi. I am one personally living that ...Thank-you Ilargi. I am one personally living that bittersweetness. The sweet more than the bitter. I've gotten used to the hatred after 32 years. The sweetness, now that is a whole new feeling — like falling in love. Thank-you for your clarity on the advisors from Wall St. Naomi Klein has been saying the same thing all over America during her recent book tour. Hopefully someone is listening or AKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12924051726529380446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-12820730961511000982008-11-06T01:01:00.000-05:002008-11-06T01:01:00.000-05:00I feel sorry for you guys, when I read the intro.D...I feel sorry for you guys, when I read the intro.<BR/>Did you know that NObama named Rahm Emmanuel chief of staff? That his proposed treasury sec is CFR?<BR/>Type Rahm Emmanuel into Wikipedia and look where his dad came from.<BR/>Irgun and Zionist terrorism.<BR/>You haven't figured it out yet, but these guys are the neo cons squared.<BR/>By the end of January, when the US$ is no longer the VLADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07303463697333210934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-91405980738774924382008-11-06T00:31:00.000-05:002008-11-06T00:31:00.000-05:00Ilargi, Great intro yesterday and today. I coul...Ilargi,<BR/> Great intro yesterday and today. I couldn't agree more. Obama is set up for a great fall since he will now be unable to meet unbelivable expectations people have for him. I give him a 5-10% chance of standing up to the banksters and fraudsters and forcing some disclosure. And no, I don't think doing so will get us out of the coming depression, but I do think instituting some EBrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02894676347259218501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-41267889534950205832008-11-06T00:15:00.000-05:002008-11-06T00:15:00.000-05:00Greyzone is right, unfortunately. On the drive hom...Greyzone is right, unfortunately. On the drive home NPR had a cheery report on how Obama plans to handle the economic crisis: experienced money men, stimulus packages and bailouts, i.e. more of the same (and worst of all no mention of Ilargi!). I remember my disappointment when Kerry said he would continue to prosecute the war in Iraq, but he would manage it better. Fast forward Obama and the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-18502519759444042712008-11-05T23:53:00.000-05:002008-11-05T23:53:00.000-05:00I must admit to amusement at the expectation that ...I must admit to amusement at the expectation that a man, elected with $500 million in money he swore he would not take, is going to somehow choose anything other than the worst of the 2 choices before him. I refer, of course, to Ralph Nader's observation that Obama has a choice - to be Uncle Sam for the rest of us or Uncle Tom for the giant corporations.<BR/><BR/>Those of you who think he can Greyzonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03675706201111951125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-6650323948944292542008-11-05T21:24:00.000-05:002008-11-05T21:24:00.000-05:00Ahimsa -- You can do better than that! C'mon, give...Ahimsa -- You can do better than that! C'mon, give me both barrels!<BR/><BR/>GSJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-40791765036424302632008-11-05T20:22:00.000-05:002008-11-05T20:22:00.000-05:00Sorry to change the subject, but has anyone notice...Sorry to change the subject, but has anyone noticed the volatility in the Euro/USD exchange rate has been phenomenal? I've never seen it like this before. Besides talk of a big drop in the ECB discount rate, what else is going on?el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-60630940887840778272008-11-05T19:35:00.000-05:002008-11-05T19:35:00.000-05:00"Reading many of the comments today make me think ..."Reading many of the comments today make me think that, contrary to Dr. King's sentiments, Obama has gotten a big pass solely because of his skin color."<BR/><BR/>Gee, only a person who believes in the racist-inspired fallacy of reverse discrimination would make such an inane statement.<BR/><BR/>AhimsaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-15637375189349013862008-11-05T18:20:00.000-05:002008-11-05T18:20:00.000-05:00I would say Obama was judge by his charactor and n...I would say Obama was judge by his charactor and not his skin color.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089309900399973503noreply@blogger.com