tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post2067626568160617077..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: Debt Rattle, October 29 2008: The lone and level sandsIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-66300985391754708172008-10-30T13:37:00.000-04:002008-10-30T13:37:00.000-04:00A good communication network, such as TAE that kee...A good communication network, such as TAE that keeps everyone aware of the "progress" of the impending "changes" is crutial in making preparations and making plans.<BR/><BR/>Your local environment might be affected next year ... 2 years ... 5 years etc. <BR/>It won't affect everyone or all places all at the same time. <BR/><BR/>The evolving situation will be noticed differently in different partsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-8052044084051386732008-10-30T13:26:00.000-04:002008-10-30T13:26:00.000-04:00CrystalRadio said... "Greg, I usually just add ...CrystalRadio said...<BR/><BR/> "Greg, I usually just add quote marks to those italics, and if I really want to make sure I fence with:<BR/><BR/> -----"<BR/><BR/>I'll try to remember, some sites have the little boxes that are grey or blue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-77562941179738089662008-10-30T13:12:00.000-04:002008-10-30T13:12:00.000-04:00Ilargi, thanks for posting the information provide...Ilargi, thanks for posting the information provided by the Financial Times.<BR/><BR/>9.1 per cent is a scary figure for sure. I remember reading Richard Heinberg's great books "The Party is Over" and "Powerdown" some years ago and feeling overwhelmed by the reality of Peak Oil.<BR/><BR/>Clearly, "this is a dying industry" as geologist Colin Campbell said in the informative short film "Peak Oil Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-64585033086174395962008-10-30T12:54:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:54:00.000-04:00Regarding talking to family...As one of the wives ...Regarding talking to family...<BR/><BR/>As one of the wives who has come around in the last year, I've been reading your comments and trying to come with some advice to help you carry family members over to the other side.<BR/><BR/>As I've mentioned in a previous post, OuttaControl first freaked out about Peak Oil about three years ago. When the next set of worries came along, it took a frank Paulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07124975167754116911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-71624756370755197762008-10-30T12:50:00.001-04:002008-10-30T12:50:00.001-04:00as screens go bright redand bankers choke on crois...as screens go bright red<BR/>and bankers choke on croissons<BR/>go long on rolled oats <BR/><BR/>(A poridge Haiku for the financial meltdown, part of my poridge haiku series)minkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494109557449444993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-2926578929493207182008-10-30T12:50:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:50:00.000-04:00Oh...by the wayGreed HaikuRoubini Told UsNow He Is...Oh...by the way<BR/><BR/>Greed Haiku<BR/><BR/>Roubini Told Us<BR/>Now He Is A Superstar<BR/>Bloomberg Pays Him WellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-59121391947667351452008-10-30T12:49:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:49:00.000-04:00@ El_polloBut not "feudalism" in the strict sense....@ El_pollo<BR/><BR/>But not "feudalism" in the strict sense. The layers of society will be hard to navigate, as in the "new" feudalism, much of the educated "class" will also play the role of serfs, kind of. people will CHOOSE to stay on the "manor", which will not be lorded over by a wealthy individual but will be more communal in nature. The big guns---the real Warlords---will TRY to exploit Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-268574333945947602008-10-30T12:39:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:39:00.000-04:00Dan WYour last post just made me think that what r...Dan W<BR/><BR/>Your last post just made me think that what remains of us after the collapse will probably revert to feudalism. Small communities will be taxed by Duke Hank of Shitheadham below the destitution line.<BR/><BR/>Wonder if Karl (Marx not Denniger) saw the post capitalistic world as feudalism?el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-15456081879183112752008-10-30T12:32:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:32:00.000-04:00Greg, I usually just add quote marks to those ital...Greg, I usually just add quote marks to those italics, and if I really want to make sure I fence with:<BR/><BR/>-----<BR/><BR/>dan w,<BR/><BR/>If you would like another misnomer for your collection try: 'Human Resource Management'! Just caught it after a 'Clean' Coal commercial this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-43976027561894219242008-10-30T12:10:00.000-04:002008-10-30T12:10:00.000-04:00The Case For Secession: random thoughts.So, I admi...The Case For Secession: random thoughts.<BR/><BR/>So, I admit that, in the past, I have looked at modern State Secessionists as silly extremists with a personal ax to grind. Not even like real extremists: y'know, like the dudes who patrol the border and the dudes who dress in "camo" and hide in caves in S. Dakota. I mean like silly political types whose lack of mainstream sensibilities leads themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-43606437489996724962008-10-30T11:21:00.000-04:002008-10-30T11:21:00.000-04:00" Ilargi said... greg, The next time you pos..." Ilargi said...<BR/> greg,<BR/> The next time you post a comment entirely in bold text, I'll delete it. Also, try to be brief in the comments section, please."<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I was in a hurry. What should I use, italics for quotes? Sometimes it is hard to see what is quoted and not.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I wonder if you guys could have a FAQ or summary for all the things that are going on in DebtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-92100385039214429462008-10-30T10:26:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:26:00.000-04:00Here is greg's comment:For what it's worth, I thin...Here is greg's comment:<BR/><BR/>For what it's worth, I think Heinberg became irrelevant years ago, and he's dead wrong once more. You can't all of a sudden claim the the peak was July 2008, after making many such claims for other dates, without providing an elaborate mea culpa and an explanation of where and why you were off.<BR/><BR/>====================<BR/><BR/>The Financial Times has leaked Ilargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-9112225033105557212008-10-30T10:22:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:22:00.000-04:00greg,The next time you post a comment entirely in ...greg,<BR/><BR/>The next time you post a comment entirely in bold text, I'll delete it. Also, try to be brief in the comments section, please.Ilargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-41627022627753583232008-10-30T10:15:00.000-04:002008-10-30T10:15:00.000-04:00Hi...Dan here...We have snow in Vermont. Gorgeous!...Hi...<BR/><BR/>Dan here...<BR/><BR/>We have snow in Vermont. Gorgeous!<BR/><BR/>But here's the deal:<BR/><BR/>As per me STAR TREK post, reality cannot be changed. However, SPOCK rightly points out that: <BR/><BR/>"...Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. Where the laws do not operate, there is no reality...."<BR/><BR/>Pursuant to our current situation, since laws no longer exist in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-85454549841233406112008-10-30T09:55:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:55:00.000-04:00HangedmanThe Constitution certainly saw other enem...Hangedman<BR/><BR/>The Constitution certainly saw other enemies besides our own government, they weren't "minarchists." For example, one of the duties of the federal government is to protect each state against "invasion" (Article 4, Section 4 clause 2)<BR/><BR/>And it gives a lot of powers to Congress too. Article 1 section 8 lists a lot of specific ones.<BR/><BR/>Most relevant here "to coin Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-8535194020683308482008-10-30T09:49:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:49:00.000-04:00Oldthinkers Unbellyfeel AmSocBrothers, plusgoodnew...Oldthinkers Unbellyfeel AmSoc<BR/><BR/>Brothers, plusgoodnews <BR/><BR/>The Paulson has declared that many of the western proles will be saved, although they have negative equity and are useless for generating a profit.<BR/><BR/>We must all be thankful for the infinite benevolence of the Paulson<BR/><BR/>Power to the Paulson!<BR/><BR/>Praise be to the Party<BR/>and to the Paulson, he gives us Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-42967700797495035532008-10-30T09:41:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:41:00.000-04:00Hanged man (can't resist):I believe that banking i...Hanged man (can't resist):<BR/><BR/>I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the Government at defiance. The issuing power should <BR/>be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. <BR/>Thomas Jefferson<BR/><BR/>If the American people ever allow Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-56868501214408498232008-10-30T09:34:00.000-04:002008-10-30T09:34:00.000-04:00Gene Roddenberry's take on the American response t...Gene Roddenberry's take on the American response to it leaders:<BR/><BR/>SPOCK: These crude supplies we were forced to use worked quite well. I doubt that this combination of things was ever used for any purpose quite like this. Perhaps they would've been if they'd had your ingenuity, Doctor.<BR/><BR/>KIRK: How soon will that be ready?<BR/><BR/>SPOCK: Right now.<BR/><BR/>KIRK: Good. How long willAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-34280118473295388132008-10-30T08:13:00.000-04:002008-10-30T08:13:00.000-04:00Oh, the frustation of family. Left mom with lots t...Oh, the frustation of family. Left mom with lots to eat. Brother doesn't get it. Girlfriend humors me but her own prep? We're hungry in thirty days max and it's a long time till spring. I'll order seed today and hope we'll muddle through..https://www.blogger.com/profile/03915219261001181341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-57664373232129348872008-10-30T07:39:00.000-04:002008-10-30T07:39:00.000-04:00oarwell:"The founding fathers tried to shield us f...oarwell:"The founding fathers tried to shield us from the money changers/credit mongers/life blood suckers of society"<BR/><BR/> Seems the Constitution protects citizens only from what was perceived to be the single enemy at the time: government. A lot of "Congress shall pass no law..." stuff, but no "Bankers shall not..."<BR/><BR/> I keep coming back to "We have met the enemy and he is us".The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-41696493971801430342008-10-30T07:27:00.000-04:002008-10-30T07:27:00.000-04:00Lone and Level SandsIlargi, I was not familiar wit...<B>Lone and Level Sands</B><BR/><BR/>Ilargi, I was not familiar with the complete Shelley poem, so I googled around and found some interesting discussion <A>here.</A><BR/><BR/>I gravitated toward this one, because I believe we are blessed far better than we can imagine and I'm the sort that looks for poetic moments; glad she's out of debt; has an ex-Marine son; family with fertile terra firma in QPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15827536245376441948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-64231968112559336902008-10-30T03:16:00.000-04:002008-10-30T03:16:00.000-04:00dan W,I understand your problem. I'm married and h...dan W,<BR/><BR/>I understand your problem. I'm married and have two children. My wife, on good days, thinks I'm being CUTE. On all other days, she gets angry with me for talking about the financial upheaval.<BR/>It seems Prozac and Reality TV are the new tobacco and booze, only more powerful and possibly more destructive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-49923475862322850712008-10-30T00:06:00.000-04:002008-10-30T00:06:00.000-04:00Interesting comments tonight. If the system disi...Interesting comments tonight.<BR/><BR/><BR/> If the system disintegrates as our hosts believe,Then the trick will to be how to "get to the other side" with you and yours skin intact,and hopefully some sort of resources.<BR/><BR/> The hows and planning will/must be as varied and insightful as anything you ave planned for in your life...as your life may well,[scratch that] WILL depend on how Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63563100208952193512008-10-29T23:02:00.001-04:002008-10-29T23:02:00.001-04:00Hows the bunker life style going bro?Hows the bunker life style going bro?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-47282647703207680132008-10-29T23:02:00.000-04:002008-10-29T23:02:00.000-04:00Hows the bunker life style going bro?Hows the bunker life style going bro?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com