tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post337745607368761327..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: September 15 2009: Trumbull County ComplaintsIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-13348931031929998022009-09-16T21:25:36.835-04:002009-09-16T21:25:36.835-04:00"I want to blame I&S for convincing me th...<i>"I want to blame I&S for convincing me that collapse was imminent."</i><br /><br />It's still summer, we never said anything about summer.I don't understand the issue.Ilargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-20361695590015663732009-09-16T21:00:07.651-04:002009-09-16T21:00:07.651-04:00Poor me,
I'm getting so underwater on my shor...Poor me,<br /><br />I'm getting so underwater on my shorts, I'll need scuba gear soon.<br /><br />Waiting for reality feels like Waiting for Godot.<br /><br />I want to blame I&S for convincing me that collapse was imminent. But I should really just blame myself for my own stupidity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-53791951939092764872009-09-16T20:28:12.083-04:002009-09-16T20:28:12.083-04:00Amon 7:29
I remember the "event" you me...Amon 7:29<br /><br />I remember the "event" you mentioned and was actually quite supportive of Ilargi's response and would have never removed the response. But since I don't speak for Ilargi and Stoneleigh--despite your goofy observations<br />(learn to comphrehend the written word)--I don't speak for I&S.<br /><br />You're obviously one of the wingnut termites that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-82422264541912730462009-09-16T19:29:35.732-04:002009-09-16T19:29:35.732-04:00Aesthete said:
"You infer that TAE has a cer...Aesthete said:<br /><br />"You infer that TAE has a certain set of topics it will entertain."<br /><br />Ummm, Aesthete, you're new here, but TAE does have such and uses censorship quite freely on economic discussions which don't meet Ilargi's political goals. Such as the topic of illegal immigration.<br /><br />Ilargi himself went on a insane rant once, calling the poster Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-800969664791454422009-09-16T18:49:36.412-04:002009-09-16T18:49:36.412-04:00rapier,
Working for a big corporation is like rid...rapier,<br /><br />Working for a big corporation is like riding a tiger. A feeling of power and speed while you are on its back but fall off and you'll be eaten alive unless you quickly find another mount.dark_matternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-6428328838744557102009-09-16T18:28:12.199-04:002009-09-16T18:28:12.199-04:00The Trumbull County people are just as dust in the...The Trumbull County people are just as dust in the wind. Don't mean a thing. <br /><br />Note who is filing all those complaints. Corporations every one. Nothing more needs to be said. <br /><br />It's best not to go all populist about this. It's just the way the world is. Powerful institutions in alliance always prevail. Traditionally that was always government and the individual whorapiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-27729300027586683142009-09-16T18:11:57.898-04:002009-09-16T18:11:57.898-04:00Weaseldog
Let me say that in asking you to clarif...Weaseldog<br /><br />Let me say that in asking you to clarify your position without offending you, I probably wasn't very clear. Let me first say that I don't mean to offend you but I do want to suggest that I think your idea that the Fed is propping up the (equity, energy, any and all) market is probably a fallacy. The idea that the Fed's activities (in conjunction with the big Farmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-756474857098939592009-09-16T18:01:29.900-04:002009-09-16T18:01:29.900-04:00@Weaseldog
Great post!@Weaseldog<br /><br />Great post!Fuserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727608356701069843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-10124251273866777012009-09-16T17:55:27.153-04:002009-09-16T17:55:27.153-04:00It’s convenient to ignore history when the agenda ...It’s convenient to ignore history when the agenda is to deny citizenship to an entire ethnic group. Ultimately, the anti-immigration reform opponents will fail and reform will be passed after the mid-term elections. This kills two birds with one stone. The “illegal immigrants” of today will ultimately be covered as citizens under whatever flawed health-care umbrella emerges a few years down the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-60231883324403151022009-09-16T17:29:02.505-04:002009-09-16T17:29:02.505-04:00FarmerRod asks:
This is a big question I have for...FarmerRod asks:<br /><br /><i>This is a big question I have for you, Ilargi. You have (or had) on your list a few John Gray books (ex Straw Dogs) in which he ridicules the idea of humanism and equates it to any other religion. And yet you deplore the bad behaviour of bankers and presidents as though we could expect anything different. And you plead for us to take care of our weak as though we ricnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-77288826780492356882009-09-16T16:55:32.608-04:002009-09-16T16:55:32.608-04:00No, seriously,
it is best described as an energy-...No, seriously, <br />it is best described as an energy-ratio inversion cascade, inevitably building into a planet-consuming wave of tears, which must be the harmonic function of countless transient entropic algorithmic recursions, a description which makes less sense, but abbreviates better. <br /><br />It won't be the end of recession just yet, but rather it will be the end of world as is Gravityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09126443076478406015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-30478420848823282992009-09-16T16:37:57.292-04:002009-09-16T16:37:57.292-04:00Well the stock market is about 8 points from where...Well the stock market is about 8 points from where I think it will tank from. Read in February that it could reach 9,800 though given the momentum in play could read 10,200 as well. <br /><br />Beyond that Gawd knows!?<br /><br />I reckon Euphoria is in, one can see it in the markets and in the statements saying the recession is over. Maybe less then two weeks of this garbage rally left IMO.VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-83966953814528514312009-09-16T16:21:26.775-04:002009-09-16T16:21:26.775-04:00Weasledog and Farmerod, is it not a righteous chea...Weasledog and Farmerod, is it not a righteous cheap thrill to feel the sucking winds? Turn your Television on, feel the Goldman breath inhaling, imagine the power when it sneezes. <br /><br />Here is some fun for the imagination flick between these two graphs:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/usdollar-index/" rel="nofollow">dollar index</a> (enter 5 day period)<br /><br /Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-74294712263590009182009-09-16T16:16:42.472-04:002009-09-16T16:16:42.472-04:00"we have to replace the corporate operating s..."we have to replace the corporate operating system with something more stable."<br /><br />The corporate operating system is considering replacing people with something more stable.Gravityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09126443076478406015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-58542005085462132062009-09-16T15:54:10.931-04:002009-09-16T15:54:10.931-04:00Farmerod,
RE: Straw Dogs vs humanism
Not to ans...Farmerod,<br />RE: Straw Dogs vs humanism<br /><br /> Not to answer for Ilargi, but the way I see it human beings are hardwired a certain way and there is very little we can do to change it. Millions of years of evolution shaped us into the clever primates that we are today. You can conclude from this either that those forces doom our societies to perpetually crappy outcomes or that any team10timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12100467801841348435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-48175483410501977272009-09-16T15:51:11.225-04:002009-09-16T15:51:11.225-04:00greenpa:One thing is sure- spending huge efforts o...greenpa:One thing is sure- spending huge efforts on figuring out who was to blame for stuff that happened 2 generations ago is historically a total waste of time. No one ever changes their mind. And no situations are ever materially changed.<br /><br />See Jane's Addiction "Noone's Leaving"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-75343436083275068602009-09-16T15:49:40.676-04:002009-09-16T15:49:40.676-04:00Farmerod says, "talking about fossil fuels, t...Farmerod says, "talking about fossil fuels, that there really is a market and that herd dynamics determine its level."<br /><br />I never said anything to suggest that herd dynamics influence gasoline prices.<br /><br />Energy drives and industrial civilization. Money is simply a tool for directing the flow of energy. Money gets it's value from work, which is derived from energy, soWeaseldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657976442272800800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-88475538993419000562009-09-16T15:43:12.776-04:002009-09-16T15:43:12.776-04:00Incidentally, if you're looking for a job, and...Incidentally, if you're looking for a job, and a new place to live- Nunavut is looking.<br /><br />http://www.gov.nu.ca/hr/site/jobs/index.shtmlGreenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-59015439575428438522009-09-16T15:36:50.884-04:002009-09-16T15:36:50.884-04:00ccpo said...
"But my point stands: Americans,...ccpo said...<br />"But my point stands: Americans, aided by a corrupt legal system, swindled land from the rightful Mexican land owners.<br /><br />Native Americans are the only "rightful owners." Period."<br /><br />Hm. So what you're saying is, you endorse the policy that whoever gets there first is the rightful owner? A corollary would seem to be that if land is Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-17135905836614848082009-09-16T15:35:28.785-04:002009-09-16T15:35:28.785-04:00Farmerod said, "Do you see this as a discrepa...Farmerod said, "Do you see this as a discrepancy and, if so, how would you trade an oil stock which, by what you say, is controlled by the Fed AND the herd?"<br /><br />No, there is no discrepancy.<br /><br />I was writing about the market and the economy.<br /><br />As we're seeing now, the economy is going down the crapper, but the market is doing fine. They don't have a Weaseldoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12657976442272800800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-74645319182561518832009-09-16T15:08:01.636-04:002009-09-16T15:08:01.636-04:00@Married with two kids:
I also sold some properti...@Married with two kids:<br /><br />I also sold some properties recently, paid off all of my debts, and am in the process of moving everything into treasurydirect.gov for the time being.<br /><br />The key thing for me (after paying off all the bills) was to get the money elsewhere so that it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket.<br /><br />And for my own piece of mind, finding several relatively Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-55258183065865313392009-09-16T14:50:26.038-04:002009-09-16T14:50:26.038-04:00Got the house sold.
Closing on Monday.
70K in prof...Got the house sold.<br />Closing on Monday.<br />70K in profit.<br />What to do now?<br />Any advice?<br /><br />- Married with two kidsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-25678930505951452492009-09-16T14:22:43.625-04:002009-09-16T14:22:43.625-04:00Stoneleigh's "prediction" was for a ...Stoneleigh's "prediction" was for a market cascade this fall to be worse than the cascade that occurred in the fall of 2008. There the S&P500 went from ~1260 to ~750 - a 40% fall. We're currently around 1070, so a "worse" cascade (say 45%) would take us to 588. And then, for 2010, Stoneleigh is predicting the DOW drops below 1000, which, proportionally, takes Mikehttp://www.mikeandvivi.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-22511739181669984262009-09-16T14:21:20.269-04:002009-09-16T14:21:20.269-04:00@The Good Person
My thoughts exactly but you put ...@The Good Person<br /><br />My thoughts exactly but you put it better than I could have. The belief that people behave any <i>better</i> than animals (in general) is not supported by history, current events or the foreseeable future. Of course, we should try to be nice but only those who are genetically predisposed to trying will actually do so. <br /><br />This is a big question I have for Farmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-76966901357444165012009-09-16T14:07:00.290-04:002009-09-16T14:07:00.290-04:00Weaseldog
All the market needs to stay healthy is ...Weaseldog<br /><i>All the market needs to stay healthy is for the Fed to continue to print money from nothing, and truck it over to GS and other banks to gamble with</i><br /><br />Then, minutes later:<br /><i>Prices are ratcheting up again, suggesting a correction is coming.</i><br /><br />In the first case, talking about the equity market in general I presume, you imply the Fed can control the Farmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.com