tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post4977834357196259603..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: June 9 2009: Other than in nameIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-12531669707115983852009-06-10T20:42:43.107-04:002009-06-10T20:42:43.107-04:00New post upNew post upIlargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-72464470626659203472009-06-10T19:36:34.019-04:002009-06-10T19:36:34.019-04:00http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,70530633...http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705306337,00.html<br /><br />Tainter is not a doomsdayer, but his research amounts to a chilling prognostication that the very nature of civilization means that ours, like all the others, is destined to collapse.<br /><br />"For the past 10,000 years, problem-solving has produced increasing complexity in human societies," Tainter said, noting VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-19257105465393866962009-06-10T19:31:44.472-04:002009-06-10T19:31:44.472-04:00Re: Gatsby
Fitzgerald wrote such beautiful prose....Re: Gatsby<br /><br />Fitzgerald wrote such beautiful prose.Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14511045883879753073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-54072783642075116932009-06-10T19:15:47.486-04:002009-06-10T19:15:47.486-04:00anon 6:46
I am glad that you are able to make a l...anon 6:46<br /><br />I am glad that you are able to make a living selling books. I don't own 12,000 books but I am sure I have read that many.<br /><br />The discussion is not whether books are valuable or even if they can be preserved [which I do have doubts about - just because it is possible doesn't mean they will be preserved]<br /><br />The argument is more about the kind of life Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-73786475176956765142009-06-10T18:56:49.856-04:002009-06-10T18:56:49.856-04:00@Anon 6:30:
You are correct that most of the peop...@Anon 6:30:<br /><br />You are correct that most of the people alive on the planet today are only alive because of petro inputs and the green revolution.<br /><br />Look at a population growth chart and lay it over a chart of fossil fuel use over time. They are mirror images.<br /><br />Again, this comes back to local solutions. We often predict what will happen with a broad stroke, assuming Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-436564288164500252009-06-10T18:54:46.438-04:002009-06-10T18:54:46.438-04:00My family have been prominent, well-to-do people i...My family have been prominent, well-to-do people in this Middle Western city for three generations. The Carraways are something of a clan, and we have a tradition that we’re descended from the Dukes of Buccleuch, but the actual founder of my line was my grandfather’s brother, who came here in fifty-one, sent a substitute to the Civil War, and started the wholesale hardware business that my fatherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-8138637808039538232009-06-10T18:52:49.817-04:002009-06-10T18:52:49.817-04:00In my younger and more vulnerable years my father ...In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I’ve been turning over in my mind ever since. <br /><br />“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had the advantages that you’ve had.” <br /><br />He didn’t say any more, but we’ve always been unusually communicative in a reserved way, and I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63528030358158086552009-06-10T18:51:05.945-04:002009-06-10T18:51:05.945-04:00The best green shoots article came from Britain to...The best green shoots article came from Britain today. They love the green stuff :)<br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-hits-trough-of-recession-1701868.html<br /><br />The UK has passed the bottom of the recession with a return to economic growth in April and May, a leading think tank claimed today.<br /><br />ps - leading think tank eh? I wonder what they'll be VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-55995145290205563442009-06-10T18:46:33.088-04:002009-06-10T18:46:33.088-04:00VK
Read the Talbot book about 10 years ago. Foun...VK<br /><br />Read the Talbot book about 10 years ago. Found several of the ideas very interesting, particularly the idea that every piece of the universe contains all the information but in a lower resolution. <br /><br />Francois<br /><br />I was thinking more about physical products. The financial system does have many fail-safe back-ups built in to retard its collapse - bull shit, larceny, el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-78963020695743373012009-06-10T18:46:19.424-04:002009-06-10T18:46:19.424-04:00@Vicky 5:54:
You said: "Even now, the majori...@Vicky 5:54:<br /><br />You said: "Even now, the majority of people would never spend much money on books. They really would rather have a new car or some other technological gadget."<br /><br />That is strange, because I actually sell books for a living. I make a very comfortable living doing so. <br /><br />I chose this occupation because I wanted to be free of the current system byAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-38599378979045399102009-06-10T18:45:15.301-04:002009-06-10T18:45:15.301-04:00For Canadians the Peter Schiff piece is here.
Jon...For Canadians the Peter Schiff piece <a href="http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/full-episodes/#clip180780" rel="nofollow"><b>is here.</b></a><br /><br />Jon Stewart's brother is a Wall Street guy, in case you wonder why he knows so much.Ilargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-20484505367827156162009-06-10T18:30:14.929-04:002009-06-10T18:30:14.929-04:00A hundred and fifty years ago, there were approx. ...A hundred and fifty years ago, there were approx. 1 billion people, now we're closing in on 7 billion.<br /><br />The tools and systems to keep one billion as opposed to 7 billion people alive on this planet are a magnitude apart.<br /><br />The 'Green Revolution" increased produce yields several fold and it made possible to feed all the extra mouths.<br /><br />The 'Green Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-40971630613508706492009-06-10T18:23:27.578-04:002009-06-10T18:23:27.578-04:00Peter Schiff on the Daily Show
http://www.youtube...Peter Schiff on the Daily Show<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5fEcSxnpIc<br /><br />Right here folks.VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-25239779128740755752009-06-10T18:21:33.714-04:002009-06-10T18:21:33.714-04:00The obvious fallacy of the inflation argument.
Al...The obvious fallacy of the inflation argument.<br /><br />All the folks who trumpeted the virutes of the housing market a few years ago (buy now before homes get too expensive) are now blowing the hyperinflation horn (buy now before the currency is worthless).<br /><br />Gee, I wonder who benefits from scaring the public about phantom inflation?<br /><br />Could it be: the same people who pumped Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70973014633208657352009-06-10T18:15:23.599-04:002009-06-10T18:15:23.599-04:00@Vicky Believe it or not, some things do get fixed...@Vicky Believe it or not, some things do get fixed. I'm an old fart and remember the acid paper issue. Thirty year old paperbacks now are in much better shape than twenty year old paperbacks were thirty years ago. Most people don't care. Most people don't buy books. The ones who did (which includes anyone working for the crap salaries publishers pay) cared. It got fixed. There were Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054316075361112346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-18892325933621922222009-06-10T18:07:07.758-04:002009-06-10T18:07:07.758-04:00Dangerous and "Out-of-the-Mainstream" Bl...Dangerous and "Out-of-the-Mainstream" Blogs:<br /><br />The MSM is using the killing of a guard at the Holocaust Museum as a vehicle to express its concern about extremist and "out-of-the-mainstream" blogs.<br /><br />No question, the internet is full of diverse opinions, many of them crazy.<br />But I find it interesting that the MSM has already begun to question how free Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-72977664062524131542009-06-10T18:04:28.537-04:002009-06-10T18:04:28.537-04:00A 4:02
That's what we have a primers section ...A 4:02<br /><br />That's what we have a primers section for. So we don't have to repeat ourselves every single day.<br /><br />PS How does Wiki define non-monetary inflation?Ilargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-10975442879068273202009-06-10T18:02:43.794-04:002009-06-10T18:02:43.794-04:00@FB No actual information, but the same observatio...@FB No actual information, but the same observation. I expected peak oil to start to bite in 2006. Instead the price went down before starting back up in 2007.<br /><br />That's in large part why I'm currently expecting that our Titanic will not go down this fall, just give another sickening lurch and tilt a few more degrees. Maybe the fall of 2010. Ask me next June.<br /><br />@Greyzone Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054316075361112346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-40887644978201917602009-06-10T17:54:01.744-04:002009-06-10T17:54:01.744-04:00anon 5:08
Literacy may not disappear all that qui...anon 5:08<br /><br />Literacy may not disappear all that quickly, but the costs of educating young people will surely be an issue in a contracting world. The Amish educate their young to the equivalent of the 8th grade. Although it may appear that they are doing it for religious reasons, it is clearly for economic reasons too. Teenagers have strong backs and need to learn the ropes of farming Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-45388514413560179812009-06-10T17:08:42.485-04:002009-06-10T17:08:42.485-04:00Stoneleigh said: "True, but it can become ver...Stoneleigh said: <i>"True, but it can become very difficult to repair or replace them once parts supply lines falter with global trade. The planned obsolescence of recent years was designed to maximize profits, not quality. Many of the things we rely on we do not make ourselves, do not have the knowledge to repair, and are of such low quality that they will need to be repaired or replaced inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-79668975820812781552009-06-10T17:01:23.041-04:002009-06-10T17:01:23.041-04:00Francois, I overheard a conversation in my dreams ...Francois, I overheard a conversation in my dreams last night, it was Geitner talking to the Captain of the Titanic who had just explained the situation. Geitner said not to worry he would would reduce the risk of sinking by having everyone, from steerage up to first class, lift the boat above the damage by rowing the ship to planing speed. I don't know how it all eventually turned out but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-58247768643588675122009-06-10T16:39:13.658-04:002009-06-10T16:39:13.658-04:00Hello El Galli,
I understand what you are saying ...Hello El Galli,<br /><br />I understand what you are saying and even agree with you.<br /><br />But we should run a poll on the people here. I wonder how many of them thought 12, 18 or 24 months ago that in June 2009 we would still be waiting for some sort of "dislocation".<br /><br />I thought it was going to be last fall, then last winter, then last spring. Still waiting.<br /><br />IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-1954500927559886002009-06-10T16:03:19.419-04:002009-06-10T16:03:19.419-04:00Francois
Collapse occurs much faster than constru...Francois<br /><br />Collapse occurs much faster than construction because collapse goes with the entropic current and construction must fight it. Also, our complicated machines are generally lacking in any fail-safe mechanism. If the tiniest microcircuit in a PC goes bad, without a replacement part it becomes a door stop.el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-48320199869562294622009-06-10T16:02:45.002-04:002009-06-10T16:02:45.002-04:00ilargi says: Jesse's contribution from yesterd...ilargi says: <i>Jesse's contribution from yesterday falls in that category</i><br><br>How so? Jesse speaks of Monetary inflation which II understand to be an increase in the money supply. Here is a link to Wikipedia on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monetary_inflation" rel="nofollow"> Monetary Inflation </a><br><br> I see no reference in that article of other types of inflation and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-87159925558059302482009-06-10T15:44:45.339-04:002009-06-10T15:44:45.339-04:00To Stoneleigh: Your response to anon about vanishi...To Stoneleigh: Your response to anon about vanishing technology will be ignored. It always is. The tale is often ignored of the collapse of fine china manufacturing during the Roman empire, where even poor families had fine china, to the case that by the 4th century A.D. kings in Europe ate off of far inferior pottery than what the poor had just a few hundred years earlier. In fact, despite beingGreyzonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03675706201111951125noreply@blogger.com