tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post5742773660802778680..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: Debt Rattle, September 4 2008: Slaughterhouse StatsIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-30540928908704698712008-09-06T07:22:00.000-04:002008-09-06T07:22:00.000-04:00Rachel, in addition to purchasing garden seed, I w...Rachel, in addition to purchasing garden seed, I would look into volunteer work on an organic farm (http://www.wwoof.org/). Assuming we still have two nickels to rub together by next growing season...). You may learn a lot and build valuable relationships for the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63849138004527056152008-09-06T04:28:00.000-04:002008-09-06T04:28:00.000-04:00Raechel, As this is late,I hope it reaches you ...Raechel,<BR/> As this is late,I hope it reaches you<BR/> The best way to prepare for food shortages on a limited/non-existent budget,is to purchase garden seed.Stored correctly,that alone can make the difference.The amount of seed one can store might make the real difference in the long term<BR/><BR/>a few pounds of cabbage seed,ect will feed a LOT of people...<BR/><BR/>snuffyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-52432373051667527832008-09-05T13:43:00.000-04:002008-09-05T13:43:00.000-04:00RaechelThe thing that bothers me most is how it do...Raechel<BR/><BR/><I>The thing that bothers me most is how it does not have to be like this, but the dark forces of greed and corruption have had their way and will contiune to try to get more in the name of 'bailouts' and 'national security'</I><BR/><BR/>and this is what really gets me. With the talents and resources available within my immediate family, we could be very well prepared. as well Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-74072516865077174612008-09-05T13:24:00.000-04:002008-09-05T13:24:00.000-04:00" One would think that early warning that the ship..." One would think that early warning that the ship is sinking would give one the advantage but in the end it might mean one freezes in the water or starves in a lifeboat rather than being trapped below deck."<BR/><BR/>Well, IMO part of coming into this world is the agreement to play out our hands to the best of our abilities. So starving in the boat is better than being trapped below decks.<BR/>el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-58849687692941830252008-09-05T11:54:00.000-04:002008-09-05T11:54:00.000-04:00Sounds like many of us are struggling with how to ...Sounds like many of us are struggling with how to deal with what's coming even though I and S have correctly predicted it. One would think that early warning that the ship is sinking would give one the advantage but in the end it might mean one freezes in the water or starves in a lifeboat rather than being trapped below deck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-58718685128287216222008-09-05T11:34:00.000-04:002008-09-05T11:34:00.000-04:00Greenpa, I little while ago I predicted the larg...Greenpa,<BR/> I little while ago I predicted the large drop in the markets would come in early October (1000 points off the Dow in a week or less), immediately on the heels of another big bank failure. Aside from the obvious societal disruption that will follow over the ensuing years I have no skin left in that game so I can make totally asinine predictions like this and laugh about it. Of EBrownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02894676347259218501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-47490581482292841542008-09-05T11:27:00.000-04:002008-09-05T11:27:00.000-04:00@ BrimstoneI struggle with this too;how do I prepa...@ Brimstone<BR/>I struggle with this too;<BR/>how do I prepare in a manner that will allow me to help my family and loved ones, especially when they roll their eyes when I bring up the topic.<BR/>My only solace is that at a minimum they might be prepared somewhat mentally as they have heard me say it so many times.<BR/>I just do not have enough money to buy food supplies for everyone…and going rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572854888730065806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-27596004065971512682008-09-05T09:50:00.000-04:002008-09-05T09:50:00.000-04:00dg: "It didnt look like there was any sign today o...dg: "It didnt look like there was any sign today of a healthy pump in the "pump and dump" scheming of the plunge protection team. Lets see tomorrow and Monday if the pumping will continue or not. "<BR/><BR/>The urge to predict is irresistible; even though foolish, and of course one can't know. My guess- this time, they'll let the Dow drop to 1060, plus or minus- then shoot for a temporary "Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-29652181096105792902008-09-05T09:48:00.000-04:002008-09-05T09:48:00.000-04:00One of the most frustrating aspects of becoming aw...One of the most frustrating aspects of becoming aware of all of this, is seeing your loved ones and family continue to walk through life blindly and politely brushing you off when you try to explain some of this to them.<BR/><BR/>The question i have struggled with is how do you prepare in a manner that will allow you to help you family ( brothers sister and their spouses) as much as possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-83893846500061806142008-09-05T09:16:00.000-04:002008-09-05T09:16:00.000-04:00Rachel: "TRUST has been the ultimate manipulator u...Rachel: "TRUST has been the ultimate manipulator used by government and financial sector. Disgusting! For those of us that know better, how do we convince the kindly 68 y/o woman that her retirement account is about to go south, "<BR/><BR/>It's almost a waste of your time, alas. Trust is indeed deeply embedded in our herd behavior- follow the leader. And for sure, the top manipulators know it Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70551051861490941672008-09-05T02:08:00.000-04:002008-09-05T02:08:00.000-04:00I have had few listen to me.Some long term friend...I have had few listen to me.Some long term friends who I had advised to buy gold,who were advised by their financial adviser not too.....when gold was 200.<BR/><BR/> It is refreshing to have these friends ask my advice now...<BR/> <BR/> [For the record I sent them here.{Hi,Dr.P!}]<BR/><BR/> That Bill Gross thinks the US treasury should be used to bail out private investor types makes me Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-17717088552967236472008-09-04T23:24:00.000-04:002008-09-04T23:24:00.000-04:00Well, I spread the word to two of my close friends...Well, I spread the word to two of my close friends who actually have investments, and both have acted decisively to protect themselves. One has even started to read the DR every day. My only sibling sent me a tin foil hat, but her daughter, a corporate lawyer, is following it very closely now. Sometimes I feel like a cross between Jeremiah and Noah, but some people are open and listen. In theel gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-20839334593291334402008-09-04T20:57:00.000-04:002008-09-04T20:57:00.000-04:00@Rachel,I understand your frustration, but the rea...@Rachel,<BR/><BR/>I understand your frustration, but the reality is that there isn't anything you can tell them that would have them change their mind.<BR/><BR/>Essentially the world as we know it is crumbling down around us. It must be a bit how it must have felt on the other side of the iron curtain 20 odd years ago. The difference being that they wanted it to happen and thought a brighter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-56634082577324823902008-09-04T20:32:00.000-04:002008-09-04T20:32:00.000-04:00ilargi wrote :...perhaps the first government that...ilargi wrote :<I>...perhaps the first government that will be toppled by the financial crisis. Many will follow. Likely to be succeeded by much more <B>right wing </B>parties. That’s the sign of the times</I> (bold is mine)<BR/><BR/>Right wingedness largely got the US into their portion of the global mess and, frankly, I think the populace might be catching on to how much corporate welfare thereFarmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-14620223498140333212008-09-04T19:46:00.000-04:002008-09-04T19:46:00.000-04:00Its unnerving to see the stock market drop as much...Its unnerving to see the stock market drop as much as it did today after watching the Playbook, from yesterdays DR. It didnt look like there was any sign today of a healthy pump in the "pump and dump" scheming of the plunge protection team. Lets see tomorrow and Monday if the pumping will continue or not. <BR/><BR/>dgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70075223724724378402008-09-04T19:24:00.000-04:002008-09-04T19:24:00.000-04:00Mostly, I think, people don't take time to researc...Mostly, I think, people don't take time to research for facts. They hear a 5-second sound-bite on TV, such as...we need oil, we gotta drill NOW. Ugh, they don't research to understand that it takes years to get any new oil, and besides, there's not going to be much oil there anyway. <BR/> <BR/>And my family is book-smart too: they all have college degrees. What they really need is a degree in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-45784548239921690202008-09-04T19:04:00.000-04:002008-09-04T19:04:00.000-04:00rachael,Show them the crash course from http://www...rachael,<BR/><BR/>Show them the crash course from<BR/> <BR/>http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse<BR/><BR/>It is interesting and understandable. If that don't do it, nothin' will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-88085315138961111152008-09-04T18:59:00.000-04:002008-09-04T18:59:00.000-04:00I've also tried to warn a number of people, but no...I've also tried to warn a number of people, but none have listened. And I haven't even been all doom and gloom, just suggesting that they move money from being long to being flat in cash in their 401Ks.<BR/>Only my wife has taken heed and done so. In another year or so I think she'll be very pleased that here money has not gone down the drain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-55813555965938219042008-09-04T18:47:00.000-04:002008-09-04T18:47:00.000-04:00Rachael, I had given up on warning people until to...Rachael, I had given up on warning people until to-day. I did suggest stashing cash to a friend planning to go south for the winter. She called me " an alarmist". Yes, exactly the point- sounding the alarm. She choses to believe that the market will settle down, return to normal, after the elction.No problemo.scandiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07924260428840006237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-13316059764481952442008-09-04T18:07:00.000-04:002008-09-04T18:07:00.000-04:00AS for Trusting financial Planners.So many America...AS for Trusting financial Planners.<BR/>So many Americans, especially baby boomers TRUST, they trust doctors to do what’s best for the patient (not the HMO profits), they trust the food supply to be healthy, they trust that the government will be there to rescue them in a storm...TRUST has been the ultimate manipulator used by government and financial sector.<BR/>Disgusting!<BR/>For those of us rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572854888730065806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-67636110876614491992008-09-04T17:59:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:59:00.000-04:00el pollo:The AquaRain filter must not be doing it....el pollo:<BR/>The AquaRain filter must not be doing it.<BR/>Seriously though, when a wonderful couple I know was talking about buying a new house, I asked them to image if they both lost their jobs and could not find decent work, would they be able to support the monthly payments. They look at me like I am crazy, like it can't happen here. <BR/>I want to scream!rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572854888730065806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-87597133252867548112008-09-04T16:22:00.000-04:002008-09-04T16:22:00.000-04:00@ rachelMy family is still clueless. They don't ta...@ rachel<BR/><BR/>My family is still clueless. They don't take the time to read the few MSM articles that I send them...They have other priorities, and trust their professional financial planner. <BR/>Anonymous ReaderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-50669888927532152372008-09-04T15:51:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:51:00.000-04:00@ Rachael"I wish I had a simple phrase, a sound bi...@ Rachael<BR/><BR/>"I wish I had a simple phrase, a sound bite, that would get my family and friends’ attention and action. Suggestions?"<BR/><BR/>I thinks it's in the drinking water. Cut them off from the municipal supply. Distill your own :-)el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-85611311802614542812008-09-04T15:47:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:47:00.000-04:00Hi Francois,I am trying to transfer my bonds but a...Hi Francois,<BR/><BR/>I am trying to transfer my bonds but am having some trouble with the tracking numbers in the application. Perhaps you could contact me at hpaulfuchs (nospam) at gmail dot com. Thanks.el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-19904877984033789772008-09-04T15:22:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:22:00.000-04:00For many of ‘those who don't know’, it is too late...For many of ‘those who don't know’, it is too late to cash out. Trying to convince them better now (even with loses) than later, turns them into 'those who do not want to know.'<BR/>I wish I had a simple phrase, a sound bite, that would get my family and friends’ attention and action. Suggestions?<BR/>(sigh)...so many good people who worked so hard for their money will see it disappear.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572854888730065806noreply@blogger.com