tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post6478127312927193148..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: Debt Rattle, August 31 2008: The Quiet BeforeIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-65656162723404296552008-09-01T00:29:00.000-04:002008-09-01T00:29:00.000-04:00C/R:"Might be harder to find stats on their long d...C/R:<BR/>"Might be harder to find stats on their long distance swimming. antics though."<BR/><BR/> Indeedy. And it's up to the news sources showing the bears to find that out and tell us. Its the difference between information and propaganda. <BR/><BR/> I just don't climb on bandwagons until I know the tune.The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-72869770950568157232008-08-31T23:10:00.000-04:002008-08-31T23:10:00.000-04:00CRI don't know about libor (except that it is NOT ...CR<BR/><BR/>I don't know about libor (except that it is NOT ducky) but <A HREF="http://www.markit.com/information/products/category/indices/abx.html" REL="nofollow">Markit</A> tells me all I need to know about the risk of debt these days. e.g. one of the AAA asset backed home equity tranches is currently fetching 45% of its face value. I'll go out on a limb here and predict new lows for many ofFarmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-54498258325230293522008-08-31T22:58:00.000-04:002008-08-31T22:58:00.000-04:00Oh, Phil Flynn, senior trader at Alaron Trading, y...Oh, Phil Flynn, senior trader at Alaron Trading, you took the words out of my mouth:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aosiZUG.lFaA&refer=home" REL="nofollow">"...I'm about as optimistic as I can be in this type of disastrous situation."</A>Farmerodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03492165772535123915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-56695752634146245642008-08-31T22:16:00.000-04:002008-08-31T22:16:00.000-04:00Has anyone got more up to date and possibly more c...Has anyone got more up to date and possibly more complete libor rates than those at something called <A HREF="http://www.priorbank.by/e/info/libor/base_libor/" REL="nofollow">Priorbank</A> it might be interesting to add to what is there. When I compare the one and six month rates it looks like there is a distinct increasing lack of trust, at least during that rather short period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-80160511728333068492008-08-31T17:13:00.000-04:002008-08-31T17:13:00.000-04:00Someone pointed out a movie to me the other day (c...Someone pointed out a movie to me the other day (can't find the link right now) that is the "Anti-Global Warming Crowd" version of "Expelled". <BR/><BR/>It took around 10 seconds of watching the trailer before the first comedic moment comes up. An unidentified "Expert" makes the claim that "there is no life in cold climates" and that "warming is good".<BR/><BR/>There are many reasons why this is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-8001953933454225582008-08-31T14:37:00.000-04:002008-08-31T14:37:00.000-04:00Our society operates on a wrongheaded belief that ...Our society operates on a wrongheaded belief that money can fix everything. Reading on the same day of the threatening Hurricane Gustav and the melting Artic. These events respond somewhat to the recently asked question of a timeframe for collapse. More than one system is experiencing acceleration.A whole lot more is happening with the fundamentals that interest rates!scandiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07924260428840006237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-43715069801703077932008-08-31T14:07:00.000-04:002008-08-31T14:07:00.000-04:00thehangedman I wouldn't say nature cares for bears...thehangedman <BR/><BR/>I wouldn't say nature cares for bears, as that seems a very strange idea to me, but what I would say is that those bears are adapted to a nature that has been relatively constant. Possibly there is another reason for those bears taking a 400 mile swim than because the-times-they-are-a-changing but that seems the simplest explanation, if you know of another one I would like Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-34342844560875292862008-08-31T13:41:00.000-04:002008-08-31T13:41:00.000-04:00C/R:And doesn't this, from that article, present a...C/R:<BR/>And doesn't this, from that article, present a desperate and ominous image?<BR/><BR/><I>Two weeks later, in an unprecedented sighting, nine stranded polar bears were seen off Alaska trying to swim 400 miles north to the retreating icecap edge.</I><BR/>-----------------<BR/><BR/> Before reacting to this news I'd want to see the "base rate" of polar bear stranding, in, say, 1950 or The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-68025514299999531962008-08-31T13:14:00.000-04:002008-08-31T13:14:00.000-04:00Right, greenpa,And doesn't this, from that article...Right, greenpa,<BR/><BR/>And doesn't this, from that article, present a desperate and ominous image?<BR/><BR/><I>Two weeks later, in an unprecedented sighting, nine stranded polar bears were seen off Alaska trying to swim 400 miles north to the retreating icecap edge.</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-85323841347690608352008-08-31T10:01:00.000-04:002008-08-31T10:01:00.000-04:00The mooing herd is milling; perhaps more than usua...The mooing herd is milling; perhaps more than usual. I would think the the news in your first article today should be being repeated, and discussed, all over the place- but the only place it turned up in my morning news perusal is here. <BR/><BR/>For what it's worth in the metals department- the Chinese historically have depended on silver for actual emergency living transactions, not gold. Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.com