tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post7505005544145914258..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: June 20 2009: Razor Thin AirIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-91405266716321438962009-06-21T23:48:23.562-04:002009-06-21T23:48:23.562-04:00@ DBS
Ooops! My apologies ... I was under the imp...@ DBS<br /><br />Ooops! My apologies ... I was under the impression that you were from the South. <br /><br />@ El G<br /><br />You bet. FL and VA.Ahimsanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-22422719571194752812009-06-21T23:18:24.779-04:002009-06-21T23:18:24.779-04:00"We will be a scavenger nation..." - thi..."We will be a scavenger nation..." - this may happen if you allow for the deflationary process to take its natural course. But rich people will have their illusion preserved for a bit longer.<br /><br />"but I have yet to see a convincing argument of how they can get enough money into the system for a reflation if no one is lending or borrowing. Debts will come due, and they will Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-82625514131894073612009-06-21T22:59:48.940-04:002009-06-21T22:59:48.940-04:00As the world's reserve currency, the banksters...As the world's reserve currency, the banksters have a great deal. They collect all sorts of trinkets and hand back rather ugly pieces of green paper with pictures of old white men on it. They want to keep the scam going as long as possible.<br /><br />The Chinese and Russians are in a dollar trap, which Max Keiser compares to a Roach Motel, and are desperately trying to find their way out, el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-42695003847874551242009-06-21T22:56:19.054-04:002009-06-21T22:56:19.054-04:00New post upNew post upIlargihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-42800790489963462992009-06-21T22:45:45.367-04:002009-06-21T22:45:45.367-04:00“RC said...
For Robert who is bothered by the Czar...“RC said...<br />For Robert who is bothered by the Czar {Tzar, Tsar} designation: Czar is pre-Soviet. So relax.”<br /><br />As I am sure you know there was a slight temporal overlap, until the Soviets executed Nicholas and his entire family including his wolfhound and poodle. You’d think our political thug class would think it was bad luck to be termed a Tsar, but they were probably smoking in el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-73322457175794872082009-06-21T22:38:39.261-04:002009-06-21T22:38:39.261-04:00@ Ahimsa
I'm a 61 year old American white mal...@ Ahimsa<br /><br />I'm a 61 year old American white male, but not a Southerner, although it would be fine with me if I was.D. Benton Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09505763959328162067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-81478054171776002642009-06-21T22:36:30.368-04:002009-06-21T22:36:30.368-04:00Oh man I hate to venture into this....
but...
IF d...Oh man I hate to venture into this....<br />but...<br />IF deflation gets a hold I think what Ilargi fails to see is there is NO END to what the policy makers will do to make that outcome not so. Alas, only currency devaluation can save a debt ridden culture. It all ends the same.EconomicDisconnecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02802078645713106743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70272512753306872872009-06-21T22:18:34.010-04:002009-06-21T22:18:34.010-04:00DBS said:
"It is more likely that he would p...DBS said:<br /><br />"It is more likely that he would punch out an officer and sent to the stockade himself."<br /><br />I never heard of a Southern redneck punching a good ole boy to prevent the lynching of a black person or punching those who lead the Trail of Tears. In fact, they were the ones who lynched blacks and forced the Indians unto the Trail of Tears.Ahimsanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-10086551971506065632009-06-21T21:57:26.989-04:002009-06-21T21:57:26.989-04:00DBS: I have a question on your story about Andy. N...DBS: I have a question on your story about Andy. No doubt his kind are physically strong. That's why they make such good soldiers and workers. he reminds me of the sort of people described by Joe Bageant (one of the authors in Ilargi's recommended books sidebar.) Their bodies are tougher than us aging city softies.<br /><br />But you mention the $65,000 debt he incurred. Same numbers for Bukko Boomerangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02424677168216647964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-85399484237487239552009-06-21T20:35:38.213-04:002009-06-21T20:35:38.213-04:00I don't know how the U.S. can even fund a mino...I don't know how the U.S. can even fund a minor 'claw-back" of it's industrial base.<br /><br />Corporate Agribiz employs single percentage points of the population in growing food.<br /><br />Few even know how to farm, even on a small scale.<br /><br />Nobody really makes or repairs shoes or manufactures clothing.<br /><br />Shelter, well, we have lots of overpriced houses in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-82353678877977010372009-06-21T20:07:31.336-04:002009-06-21T20:07:31.336-04:00My first response was too flippant. Let me clarify...My first response was too flippant. Let me clarify - I think the Fed and Treasury do not have the power to inflate short of sending every US resident a $200,000 check, or employing half the population at a well above market wage. Doing either would destroy the country quite quickly.<br /><br />I think they will keep driving Ilargi crazy by claiming they want to usher in a period of sustainable Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12449452173636791089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-77972208336375888832009-06-21T19:51:02.402-04:002009-06-21T19:51:02.402-04:00DBS,
Thanks for the story about Andy. Someone wo...DBS, <br /><br />Thanks for the story about Andy. Someone worth knowing in our relocalized futuer. <br /><br />Kunstler has written disparagingly of such individuals; methinks he should get to know some of them around upstate New York.Jim Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17419179432204743768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-33305035947280980282009-06-21T19:45:15.300-04:002009-06-21T19:45:15.300-04:00Ahimsa: You make a great point. We can end the dis...Ahimsa: You make a great point. We can end the discussion. <br /><br />El G: I would think it's more concerning that students were willing to inflict torture for the sake of appeasement - and not a mortal threat. But, the educational institutions promotes conformity and not "getting out of line", right?<br /><br />CNN is not barring any graphic imagery of Tehran. One pundit likened Persephonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16990525279110502147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-91837363741996736582009-06-21T19:36:56.756-04:002009-06-21T19:36:56.756-04:00Looks like China is buy Volvo. That does not inclu...Looks like China is buy Volvo. That does not include the heavy construction equipment division which I always suspected was the reason Ford bought Volvo for in the first place.<br /><br />Didn't the Chinese by Hummer also?<br /><br />Why these brands? His and her's, Hummers for the guys, Volvos for the gals.<br /><br />I guess it's a fashion statement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-58286472901493031652009-06-21T19:32:43.932-04:002009-06-21T19:32:43.932-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12449452173636791089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-35420168407437154352009-06-21T19:26:04.080-04:002009-06-21T19:26:04.080-04:00PS
Sorry for all my typos lately. I just moved f...PS<br /><br />Sorry for all my typos lately. I just moved from a 24" desktop monitor to a 13" MacBook. I would get stronger glasses, but then my nose would damage the screen :-)el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-22775718223361544922009-06-21T19:18:21.845-04:002009-06-21T19:18:21.845-04:00DBS
Thanks for the straight answer.
Persephone...DBS<br /><br />Thanks for the straight answer. <br /><br />Persephone<br /><br />Yes, I am familiar with Stanley Millgram's work at Yale. Even more to the point is Philip Zimbardo's experiment as Stanford. As a former educator, I think it would be rather easy to train children and young adults to be highly resistant to becoming willing torturers for authority figures, but TPTB have no el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-87534805102454158192009-06-21T18:56:06.244-04:002009-06-21T18:56:06.244-04:00Persephone,
Interestingly, both you and DBS are w...Persephone,<br /><br />Interestingly, both you and DBS are white Southerners.<br /><br />I'm headed to the country with self-reliant individuals as well, but not in the South. I've lived in the South for more than 45 years and have suffered enough from Southern culture bigotry. Of course, not every individual in the South is a bigot, but institutional bigotry is rampant and more Ahimsanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-65153433972854272572009-06-21T18:43:47.217-04:002009-06-21T18:43:47.217-04:00The Andys of the world, indeed most "rednecks...The Andys of the world, indeed most "rednecks' are not the problem. The problem is the political manipulators who have twisted the by the bootstrap mentality into a reviled contempt for anything equating to civilized welfare. Nearly every honest human detests the freeloading artist; but this visceral repugnance, experienced by nearly every human at one time or another, has been codifiedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70049371613092265032009-06-21T18:32:58.254-04:002009-06-21T18:32:58.254-04:00To back-up D. Benton Smith's point- I present ...To back-up D. Benton Smith's point- I present <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment" rel="nofollow">Stanley Milgram</a><br /><br><br />FWIW, when the SHTF, I'm headed back to Redneck country. Though some in the area are xenophobic, not all. I think my chances are better surrounded by friends who embrace rugged individualism - and have a working knowledge of Persephonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16990525279110502147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-45102419115697518312009-06-21T18:08:53.481-04:002009-06-21T18:08:53.481-04:00@ El Galinazo
I do understand the gist of your qu...@ El Galinazo<br /><br />I do understand the gist of your question and will give the straightest answer that I can.<br /><br />First of all, Andy has issues with authority and would be very difficult to control in any sort of hierarchical situation like the military.<br /><br />It has been proven that most humans placed in positions of undue authority and power over others easily become callousedD. Benton Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09505763959328162067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-20994610405256986122009-06-21T18:05:18.230-04:002009-06-21T18:05:18.230-04:00There is no choice between which road to take, def...There is no choice between which road to take, deflation or inflation, the road was picked awhile ago.<br /><br />Deflation is on rails, until all the juice is squeezed from the lemon.<br /><br />Then the rind inflates, as if anyone by then would notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-61322917389198586242009-06-21T17:42:42.919-04:002009-06-21T17:42:42.919-04:00Garth
"I agree that deflation is a painful, ...Garth<br /><br />"I agree that deflation is a painful, treacherous path, but ignoring the bond market and cutting off international trade would hurt worse and faster."<br /><br />I don't agree as I actually saw hyperinflation and later witnessed 20% unemployment due to inflation targeting. The latter was far worse and caused a permanent social dislocation. Just think about more thanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-64501067202035275812009-06-21T17:30:00.339-04:002009-06-21T17:30:00.339-04:00To Ahimsa @4.39
Yes - there is definitely the st...To Ahimsa @4.39<br /><br />Yes - there is definitely the stereotypical redneck and yes they are pervasive (unfortunately seen a lot in Vermont :( ). They drive around in pick up trucks with their rifle in full view in their rear view mirror....hunting the 'innocent' deer grazing in the forest. They say ' we have to keep the deer numbers under control'. No, No, No. Simply 'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-4387703174032750912009-06-21T17:24:04.956-04:002009-06-21T17:24:04.956-04:00I was in a cafe recently, spiffier than normal. Mi...I was in a cafe recently, spiffier than normal. Middle-upper-middle class clientele.<br /><br />Saw a friend I haven't seen since last spring when oil prices were headed toward Crazyland.<br /><br />He yelled across the cafe," what you gonna heat your house with this year?"<br /><br />As a joke, in a moment of mirth, I yelled back,"I was thinking of heating it with bankers"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com