tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post7735555897373945491..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: April 20 2009 1: Dirty Dark IncestIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-21835955870151221092009-04-21T09:46:00.000-04:002009-04-21T09:46:00.000-04:00I was just getting coffee at the local spot, the T...I was just getting coffee at the local spot, the TV talking-empty-heads were breathlessly yammering about holding one of the Somalian 'pirates' in NYC.<br /><br />More diversionary tactics by the Ministry of Propaganda's Bread & Circuses SWAT team no doubt.<br /><br />It got interesting however when one of the air-heads mentioned that the Somalian pirate was being held in the sameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-84355320837815528802009-04-21T09:33:00.000-04:002009-04-21T09:33:00.000-04:00Ahimsa said...
"The book that Chavez presented to...Ahimsa said...<br /><br />"The book that Chavez presented to Obama is now number two on Amazon :-)"<br /><br />The kind of shoe thrown at Bush became a best seller too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-52814210452300191532009-04-21T08:13:00.000-04:002009-04-21T08:13:00.000-04:00"..the small city, 30-100,000 on a river, and surr..."..the small city, 30-100,000 on a river, and surrounded by good agricultural land will be the most viable model for the future..."<br /><br />Part of history's rhyming, especially when in retrogade mode when headed for the Past, is just pull out some really old maps.<br /><br />People were by and large very practical and used the geography to lessen the expenditure of energy.<br /><br />Where Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63855285916095323242009-04-21T01:59:00.000-04:002009-04-21T01:59:00.000-04:00I read both of Toby Hemenway's articles linked ear...I read both of Toby Hemenway's articles linked earlier. They made many good and insightful points about rural life today and as peak oil takes hold. But half way through my first article, something just seemed totally out of kilter with his economic view point. So I scrolled back to the top to see when it was written - 2005. Peak "boom," He totally missed the economic meltdown created by el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-91876534747571042502009-04-21T01:31:00.000-04:002009-04-21T01:31:00.000-04:00APC: Bounce is over the moment reality sets in. ...APC: Bounce is over the moment reality sets in. I just figured it might be another month...<br /><br />Let's remember, Chrysler has about 10 days to live, if that. If I were Fiat, and I'm completely serious here, I'd let Chrysler go liquidation-BK and buy what might be worth anything at the liquidation sale.<br /><br />Ford's got another month.<br /><br />The banks are involved in what (to Starcadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09226367306835781483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-14024169643563112372009-04-21T00:30:00.000-04:002009-04-21T00:30:00.000-04:00The Erin Go Broke article was not one of Krugman's...The Erin Go Broke article was not one of Krugman's better efforts-- he comes off as the condenscending American lecturing the Irish on the dangers of bankers run amok.<br /><br />Yikes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-43148499707055886762009-04-20T22:39:00.000-04:002009-04-20T22:39:00.000-04:00VK said:
"@ Ahimsa
The book that Chavez presente...VK said:<br /><br />"@ Ahimsa<br /><br />The book that Chavez presented to Obama is now number two on Amazon :-)"<br /><br />Awesome!<br /><br />Thank you for links to the great Colin Campbell interview and water consumption chart. Yes, we don't need to eat beef! Go vegetarian! It's good for one's health, the animals and the environment. :)Ahimsanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-60010091180113130342009-04-20T21:09:00.000-04:002009-04-20T21:09:00.000-04:00To Kaspar and tinfoilhat:
Chickens, yes, and more...To Kaspar and tinfoilhat:<br /><br />Chickens, yes, and more importantly, the return of our o-NPK to the soil (thanks totoneila). Some difficulties to overcome with this, but the technique (composting, etc.) is well-developed. At any rate a shorter loop than dredging the minerals from the sea, once they've been flushed down the toilet.Chris Lamberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158425428776021967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-26486670865806893202009-04-20T20:31:00.000-04:002009-04-20T20:31:00.000-04:00To Kaspar: all you need for the inputs to your so...To Kaspar: all you need for the inputs to your soil are chickens. Well, to be more specific, their poop. And there's your sustainability in a nutshell. Chickens give eggs, become food when they are too old to give eggs, eat comparatively very little and are perfectly capable of foraging for them selves - and there are many articles on growing winter feed as they did in old times on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-80186704413871856612009-04-20T20:01:00.000-04:002009-04-20T20:01:00.000-04:00Hello Mr VK
From the Colin Campbell Interview:
"...Hello Mr VK<br /><br />From the Colin Campbell Interview:<br /><br />"but by 2050 the supply will be enough to support no more than about 2.5 billion IN THEIR PRESENT WAY OF LIFE" <br /><br />That statement could be taken to mean that if people adjusted (willingly or otherwise) their way of life, more could be supported. <br />(I am pretending to be optimistic, but he may be more genuine in hisKaspar Hausernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-83255388263794248592009-04-20T19:58:00.000-04:002009-04-20T19:58:00.000-04:00The current crop of Pigmen will be tracked down by...The current crop of Pigmen will be tracked down by GPS wielding uber high tech bounty hunters, sent out after them by the next set of warlords that are coughed up by the Soft Parade known as 'the cirulation of elites'.<br /><br /><br />There is no honor among thieves, the new winners will have the shrunken heads of the losers hanging from the window valances as the new chic office decoration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-76169648634898597902009-04-20T19:46:00.000-04:002009-04-20T19:46:00.000-04:00VK - the water consumption item is instructive but...VK - the water consumption item is instructive but not in the way I think it was intended. According to the chart, to minimize water use, we should all be eating baked potato washed down with beer. Since we know what the health consequences of that would be, we can then perhaps agree that we are going to have to eat things that exact a cost from the environment. The bottom line is that since we Dr Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70973342548070060602009-04-20T19:35:00.000-04:002009-04-20T19:35:00.000-04:00Zuckerman is crackpot. Hell, so am I. I am as guil...Zuckerman is crackpot. Hell, so am I. I am as guilty as anyone of spreading this meme of how the financial giants are going to win big, but I only half believe it. It's within the realm of possibility if things went according to trend but after all the trend is now dead.<br /><br />It's good to stir the pot against the Pigmen as a political exercise but then when it attracts the Illuminati seers rapiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-32133848649654081052009-04-20T18:33:00.000-04:002009-04-20T18:33:00.000-04:00“In short, leveraged ETFs, as assets increase, rep...“In short, leveraged ETFs, as assets increase, represent a new source of systemic risk in the market as their managers rebalance them at market close every day.”<br /><A HREF="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2009/04/leveraged_etfs.html" REL="nofollow">Leveraged ETFs and Portfolio Insurance</A>Bigelowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16883913065391637120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-56296070619624082992009-04-20T18:14:00.000-04:002009-04-20T18:14:00.000-04:00Morton Zuckerman said on McLaughin Group about six...Morton Zuckerman said on McLaughin Group about six weeks ago that the end result of this debacle will be that the US banking industry will be bigger wrt to the rest of the world than it was going in. I thought it strange at the time, but it does reflect some foreknowledge of the efforts on behalf of GS that you mention in the intro. <br /><br />Keep up the good work...Larrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-57334997178053991342009-04-20T18:03:00.000-04:002009-04-20T18:03:00.000-04:00Here's an interview with Colin Campbell at TOD, he...Here's an interview with Colin Campbell at TOD, he reckons that by 2050 World Population will be around 2.5 billion given resource constraints. The interview is well worth the read, interesting to observe that the IEA has known about peak oil for atleast 10 years but chose to keep "discrete" about it for so long and infact still do but keep giving dire predictions. For goodness sakes, spell it VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-47813742243600607972009-04-20T17:39:00.000-04:002009-04-20T17:39:00.000-04:00Max Keiser has an interest twist on an already per...Max Keiser has an interest twist on an already perverse financial climate.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7YEN5jeKg&feature=player_embedded<br /><br />He says that the same players who gave us the nightmare of collateralized debt obligations and spawned the Derivative Monster that Will Eat the World, are busy cooking up a new witches brew of Collateralized Commodity Obligations. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-56742306389465121352009-04-20T17:19:00.000-04:002009-04-20T17:19:00.000-04:00While waiting for the 'collapse since the mid 80's...While waiting for the 'collapse since the mid 80's I have made a walking game akin to the older game to keep kids quiet on long car rides - you know, counting telephone poles. In this game I count all the vehicles I can see in the yards as I walk. I do not play this game too often, only on occasion, otherwise after a short time vehicles are all one sees. I know that must be a hallucinatory Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-11692374732075387662009-04-20T17:16:00.000-04:002009-04-20T17:16:00.000-04:00On the sustainable agriculture idea -- I've been p...On the sustainable agriculture idea -- I've been preparing for over a year now, in part thanks to sites and writing like that found here and at The Oil Drum, etc. I didn't have a bit of knowledge to start with. Just reading and the stuff on the Internet was my guide. There is no school like the school of hard knocks. So I've got ten fruit trees in the ground. Another five fruiting bushes. AAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-78007454419966637862009-04-20T17:12:00.000-04:002009-04-20T17:12:00.000-04:00"...Even the kindest physicians don't put corpses ..."...Even the kindest physicians don't put corpses on life support. This particular corpse has been placed in the world's cushiest intensive care unit, with transfusions running about a trillion dollars a month -- not to mention hefty bonuses for the attending nurses...."<br /><br />:-) Kunstler!Hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12930734368916487826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-17065502926588310202009-04-20T16:57:00.000-04:002009-04-20T16:57:00.000-04:00"Perhaps most importantly, we lack know-how. Most ..."Perhaps most importantly, we lack know-how. Most of us today have little experience of food- growing. The farmers we do have are mostly approaching retirement, and there are few of them..."<br /><br />Thanks TAE for posting the Times article about farming. Perhaps it's my Indiana roots which make this seem to me one of our most severe needs for the future. <br /><br />1 - The "age of cities" is Hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12930734368916487826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-68915073732893578202009-04-20T16:55:00.000-04:002009-04-20T16:55:00.000-04:00Rob Hopkins had a good weekend! The article you h...Rob Hopkins had a good weekend! The article you have here was the one he liked best, but there was also a 5,000 word bit in the NYT weekend Magazine.<br /><br /><A HREF="http://transitionculture.org/2009/04/20/a-weekend-of-in-depth-transition-coverage/" REL="nofollow">Rob's Blog</A>Greenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-42946008412207287112009-04-20T16:24:00.000-04:002009-04-20T16:24:00.000-04:00I also read Kunstler today-great, great postI also read Kunstler today-great, great postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-39049138255563617412009-04-20T16:22:00.000-04:002009-04-20T16:22:00.000-04:00The French Revolution beget the metric system, it'...The French Revolution beget the metric system, it's only practical contribution to civilization.<br /><br />It temporarily got rid of 'aristocrats' (Kleptocracts with highly developed tastes for decadence)<br /><br />It then delivered 'the Terror', a runaway exercise in execution excess, which ironically consumed it's creators (Robespierre).<br /><br />This was followed by a megalomaniac in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-87071384337172710182009-04-20T16:11:00.000-04:002009-04-20T16:11:00.000-04:00"Why We Forgot How to Grow Food"
Peter ..."Why We Forgot How to Grow Food"<br /><br />Peter Goodchild has written a series of realistic (somewhat gloomy, to be truthful) articles about his attempts to prepare for a future of declining energy. He and his wife "gave up" last year and moved to the Persian Gulf to find temporary work. Basically, the collapse was taking too long!<br /><br />This guy is pretty serious, Kaspar Hausernoreply@blogger.com