tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post8631923720583194591..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: Debt Rattle, December 28 2008: Do As The Romans DoIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-69304687950089807272008-12-30T08:49:00.000-05:002008-12-30T08:49:00.000-05:00Guilherme - I'm someone who reads comments from a ...Guilherme - I'm someone who reads comments from a post almost two days old :)<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your history references. With the Internet, I can do some more research and reading on the Inca and Aztecs.bluebirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600634086150466162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-37204378238395683382008-12-29T22:18:00.000-05:002008-12-29T22:18:00.000-05:00Thanks EBrown and n for the support. Appreciated. ...Thanks EBrown and n for the support. Appreciated. <BR/><BR/>I'm not in a position right now to discuss the intricancies of Aztec and Inca society, and I'm even doubtful people will read comments from a post almost two days old, but there's plenty of online resources that you can use to get a start on the subject.<BR/><BR/>It's basically that both society were vibrant and actually expanding as theGuilherme de Baskervillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00022236771145501175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63128135430966675562008-12-29T11:49:00.000-05:002008-12-29T11:49:00.000-05:00From an observer’s standpoint I find it intriguing...From an observer’s standpoint I find it intriguing, but perhaps natural, that a discussion about the American Empire collapse should evolve into a discussion about Christianity. After all it was Christian Puritans with their “we are God’s Chosen People” entitlement who settled America in the first place. I wonder how this perception played into the development of individualism and capitalism asCassandra Syndromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06310128103905231894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-48389684696976907992008-12-29T11:15:00.001-05:002008-12-29T11:15:00.001-05:00@Dan WFrom your piece:"There can be little doubt""...@Dan W<BR/><BR/>From your piece:<BR/><BR/>"There can be little doubt"<BR/><BR/>"We have, with nary a hint of doubt"<BR/><BR/>"Of this there can be no doubt"<BR/><BR/>Really.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632600430004147895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-48877645590411623132008-12-29T11:15:00.000-05:002008-12-29T11:15:00.000-05:00/thehangedman/: "It's settled then.Blue Helmets Ou.../thehangedman/: "It's settled then.<BR/><BR/>Blue Helmets Out!!!"<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this. I'm off in search of a helmet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-2032110838839369322008-12-29T10:44:00.000-05:002008-12-29T10:44:00.000-05:00Gravity: "Im not making this up, Lou Dobbs agrees ...Gravity: "Im not making this up, Lou Dobbs agrees that it exists.."<BR/><BR/><BR/> It's settled then.<BR/><BR/> Blue Helmets Out!!!The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-32999472864069148642008-12-29T10:36:00.000-05:002008-12-29T10:36:00.000-05:00Ilargi said..."Is there anything in me that makes ...Ilargi said...<BR/><BR/>"Is there anything in me that makes you think that needs to be explained to me?"<BR/><BR/>In your "minor point" from the Rattle intro you asked for it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Guilherme de Baskerville said... <BR/>said...<BR/><BR/>"just wanted to say that the aztecs and inca are not a good comparison to what you were going at, but I guess it was not welcomed. I'll keep that in kind Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632600430004147895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-26230905379175286902008-12-29T10:25:00.000-05:002008-12-29T10:25:00.000-05:00Anon: "I wish the comments could have a tree-struc...Anon: "I wish the comments could have a tree-structure rather than this current flat structure. Then the different topics and comments would be ordered and easier to follow."<BR/><BR/> Not in these Blogger comments, but some blogs have associated forums on another site, as Rigorous Intuition does:<BR/><BR/>blog: rigint.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>forum: http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/<BR/><BR/The Lizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044779666881689690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-76828922956719503702008-12-29T10:18:00.000-05:002008-12-29T10:18:00.000-05:00Short on cash, some put a price on themselvesSeeki...<A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28040824/" REL="nofollow"><BR/>Short on cash, some put a price on themselves<BR/></A><BR/><I>Seeking quick cash in a tanking financial market, would-be sellers of a variety of body products — sperm, eggs, blood plasma, even human hair — are filling waiting rooms and swamping agencies with inquiries.<BR/></I>timekeeprhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14020096490041944876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-63134520159157893002008-12-29T10:12:00.000-05:002008-12-29T10:12:00.000-05:00@ chaosa good question. let me ponder and reply......@ chaos<BR/><BR/>a good question. let me ponder and reply...Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02629934080871994373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-46044898854666222572008-12-29T09:47:00.000-05:002008-12-29T09:47:00.000-05:00I was hoping to read an interesting discussion of ...I was hoping to read an interesting discussion of the possibility of the US Empire collapsing, thinking that some or most of those posting had read Tainter, Diamond, Greer,Orlov,and Homer-Dixon, but sadly, a brainsucking religious debate ensued. Too bad...this post had great potential. Dan W, any comments on integrating the authors mentioned above into your thinking?Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14511045883879753073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-86488756060794876862008-12-29T06:45:00.000-05:002008-12-29T06:45:00.000-05:00@ 3rd Chimp RE: "...the author is confused and the...@ 3rd Chimp RE: "...the author is confused and therefore spends energy trying to reconcile USA timelines with the collapse of past civilizations..."<BR/><BR/>I hear you. Again, as I have said in other comments...and am kind of beginning to undestand that this is more of a discussion about "literalism vs. metaphor-ism" rather than a discussion of Economics...these comparisons are useful in that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-53774677179558663962008-12-29T06:00:00.000-05:002008-12-29T06:00:00.000-05:00As a humble reader of this blog I wish the comment...As a humble reader of this blog I wish the comments could have a tree-structure rather than this current flat structure. Then the different topics and comments would be ordered and easier to follow.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if this is a possibility within the framework of Blogspot, but it sure would be nice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-59572636691878891582008-12-29T03:19:00.001-05:002008-12-29T03:19:00.001-05:00Anon 1:17 am"Well, you've been arguing tonight wit...Anon 1:17 am<BR/><BR/>"Well, you've been arguing tonight with a Christian, you just don't recognize me as one."<BR/><BR/>How the hell are we suppose to "recognize" you when you post as an anonymous. Posting as an ANON gives one no more protection from TPTB than affixing a pseudonym. I find the allowance of this practice to be the only really negative feature of this blog.<BR/><BR/>As to el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-10387159084030832132008-12-29T03:19:00.000-05:002008-12-29T03:19:00.000-05:00Stoneleigh said:"People, can we drop the religious...Stoneleigh said:<BR/><BR/>"People, can we drop the religious debate now please."<BR/><BR/>Thank you. A pity you can't have a separate section for the (the put it politely) religious debates. It would separate out those who are so inclined, allow others to focus on the economic issues, and drive up the page hits. <BR/><BR/>Win-win all around.<BR/><BR/>One thing of concern that I haven't seen Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-5109248827771053512008-12-29T03:00:00.000-05:002008-12-29T03:00:00.000-05:00One issue with the lead article - its misleading t...One issue with the lead article - its misleading to compare the USA nation with a civilization like Rome - the author is confused and therefore spends energy trying to reconcile USA timelines with the collapse of past civilizations. Maybe more useful to see the USA in the context of one nation instance embedded within the history of an agricultural civilization that achieved liftoff when it Third Chimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01603644246774271365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-28417209172547361892008-12-29T02:55:00.000-05:002008-12-29T02:55:00.000-05:00Anon 1234,I will tell you the result of a Jubilee....Anon 1234,<BR/><BR/>I will tell you the result of a Jubilee. My wife will kill me for not going deep into debt and buying a much bigger home as she wanted. So I am against it because I don't want to be hacked to death by a butcher knife while I sleep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-57914382832231750782008-12-29T01:23:00.000-05:002008-12-29T01:23:00.000-05:00People, can we drop the religious debate now pleas...People, can we drop the religious debate now please.Stoneleighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15099878430757036461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-62390470690865619592008-12-29T01:17:00.000-05:002008-12-29T01:17:00.000-05:00Well, you've been arguing tonight with a Christian...Well, you've been arguing tonight with a Christian, you just don't recognize me as one.<BR/><BR/>More will be revealed. Ask and it shall be given to you. You have been given a brain to use and scienctific research to learn from. Scientific method and brain scan studies have revealed that the biblical admonitions against homosexuality were, at best, guesses, and at worst, horrible miscarriages of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-55861843632776177462008-12-29T01:09:00.000-05:002008-12-29T01:09:00.000-05:00Although both the Old and New Testament is clear i...Although both the Old and New Testament is clear in it’s teaching of homosexuality it is very difficult to persuade those who are nonChristians to accept these verses. For those who would say that Jesus never explicitly condemned homosexuality, I really wonder if it would have made much difference if He had. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous, considering what you said before about Jesus being an “alleged” Vizinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14587229268119486314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-53440061118168264932008-12-29T00:50:00.000-05:002008-12-29T00:50:00.000-05:00Anonymous,Jesus hung out with tax collectors. Yes...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Jesus hung out with tax collectors. Yes, but it wasn't to share a beer or play cards. It was to preach the gospel to them and to save them from their sin if they were willing to repent.<BR/><BR/>A good example is Zachchaeus who was a tax collector and who did repent. He stated he would repay everyone he cheated four times the amount he received. <BR/><BR/>Jesus said to himVizinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14587229268119486314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-7740847982160631912008-12-29T00:46:00.000-05:002008-12-29T00:46:00.000-05:00yes Vizini I told YOU to go and sin no more becaus...yes Vizini I told YOU to go and sin no more because that IS his next line. But the sin is not necessarily about the adultery because of the previous line "then I do not accuse you". It is not a rebuke. It is not permission to rebuke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-90898897311054966472008-12-29T00:43:00.000-05:002008-12-29T00:43:00.000-05:00But Vizini, gay couples don't 'sin against YOU'. Y...But Vizini, gay couples don't 'sin against YOU'. You take it too personally, it is not your business. That bible quote is about grievances. You have no legitimate claim against gays for their personal livestyles.<BR/>As for treating them 'like tax collectors', Jesus hung out with tax collectors. He even defended tax collecting: "Render unto Caesar what is caesar's."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-24245024433076533332008-12-29T00:41:00.000-05:002008-12-29T00:41:00.000-05:00Anonymous,You quote from the bible where Jesus sav...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>You quote from the bible where Jesus saved the woman caught in adultery, but you forgot one thing. He told the woman to go and SIN no more. Notice how Jesus didn't say, go and continue to commit adultery.Vizinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14587229268119486314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-382411098393624062008-12-29T00:38:00.000-05:002008-12-29T00:38:00.000-05:00Ebrown, this is a quote from Jesus from Matthew 18...Ebrown, this is a quote from Jesus from Matthew 18. I believe it answers your question.<BR/><BR/>Jesus said, If your brother sins, go and show him his fault just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along so that every matter may be established by the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses. <BR/><BR/>If he refuses Vizinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14587229268119486314noreply@blogger.com