tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post5914902154859691995..comments2024-02-28T22:03:57.237-05:00Comments on The Automatic Earth: April 20 2009 2: Too Much BabylonIlargihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09698428009501267664noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-34772839014231576652009-04-21T15:35:00.000-04:002009-04-21T15:35:00.000-04:00El G,
I have my problems with Kunstler, but at le...El G,<br /><br /><I>I have my problems with Kunstler, but at least he saw, before 2005, the economic meltdown coming prior to peak oil kicking in hard.</I>Mr Kunstler and I had a very long face-to-face chat over coffee about finance back when I was doing TOD:Canada and he was up in my neck of the woods to give a talk. He seems to have focused a lot more on it after that.Stoneleighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15099878430757036461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-37385100583377244612009-04-21T15:01:00.000-04:002009-04-21T15:01:00.000-04:00Posted this on the wrong thread so repeating it:
...Posted this on the wrong thread so repeating it:<br /><br />I read both of Toby Hemenway's articles linked earlier. They made many good and insightful points about rural life today and as peak oil takes hold. But half way through my first article, something just seemed totally out of kilter with his economic view point. So I scrolled back to the top to see when it was written - 2005. Peak "boom,"el gallinazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00642036843036726232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-78532377670911737592009-04-21T13:30:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:30:00.000-04:00jal
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I think we think too much in forms, str...jal<br /><br />yes, <br />I think we think too much in forms, structures, fixations...<br /><br />We need to get out of the formations and just BE!Hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12930734368916487826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-60823720995443260052009-04-21T13:08:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:08:00.000-04:00I assume that everyone is aware that there are no ...I assume that everyone is aware that there are no political structures or financial structures ( Not referring to the medium of exchange) without a sustainable social structure.jalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969819389823705458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-33382902989449916822009-04-21T12:56:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:56:00.000-04:00I find it amusing that anon would sign as -D. Trum...I find it amusing that anon would sign as -D. Trump-<br /><br />Here are the key words<br /><br /> <B>"sustainability of the social structures".</B>As a result the social fabric of the society must be protected by imposing strict enforceable laws to punish the greed and exploitation of the unscrupulous parties.<br />jaljalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969819389823705458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-23534824649565306202009-04-21T12:47:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:47:00.000-04:00Coy:
And they are more portable than those great...Coy: <br /><br />And they are more portable than those great stone wheels. <br /><br />Also, hoarded cacao beans may be more resistant to weevil attacks than the short-selling ETFs :-)Jim Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17419179432204743768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-26015744344076861532009-04-21T12:29:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:29:00.000-04:00jal said... "Central and South America had financi...jal said... "Central and South America had financial system that were able to sustain their social structures for a lot longer that capitalism"<br /><br />Yes... at least one was based on the cacao bean! I think that is a recipe for success given that...<br /><br />Raw cacao beans contain magnesium, copper, iron, phosphorus, calcium, anandamide, phenylethylamine, arginine, polyphenols, Hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12930734368916487826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-80925296900497740982009-04-21T12:25:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:25:00.000-04:00Perhaps readers here would find Jim Quinn's latest...Perhaps readers here would find Jim Quinn's latest of interest. Much of it about the potential for social upheaval.<br /><br />http://theburningplatform.com/economy/know-your-enemyHombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12930734368916487826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-32179066382080935562009-04-21T12:10:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:10:00.000-04:00Jal
What would you say if I suggested that credi...Jal<br /><br /> What would you say if I suggested that credit was merely an extension of what once was the small community working in commonweal and therefore should be a function of the people through their government rather than thenon productive private wealth accumulating mechanism it is now.<br /><br />Should make the average free enterprise entrepreneurial scumbag's skin crawl.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-18694103627484659952009-04-21T12:01:00.000-04:002009-04-21T12:01:00.000-04:00Try as I might,I still get almost physically ill w...Try as I might,I still get almost physically ill when I think too much about this carefully orchestrated looting of America by those in power....Its now getting almost obvious that O-man is the "closer"for this latest assault on the middle class...Knowingly,or un-knowingly.Think Clinton and NAFTA,and GATT.Bush the elder could have never gotten it passed...<br /> Its becoming more clear that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-7463905353267543052009-04-21T10:36:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:36:00.000-04:00@ bluebird
If credit is declined, how can any bus...@ bluebird <br />If credit is declined, how can any business (small or large) survive?<br />------ <br />The answer can probably be found in economic systems that have laster longer than ours.<br /><br />What system did the Egyptians use?<br />Why not look to the far east and find out what were their ancient system.<br /><br />Central and South America had financial system that were able to jalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969819389823705458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-50775701982451729142009-04-21T09:59:00.000-04:002009-04-21T09:59:00.000-04:00Hey starcade, you say:
The math doesn't work her...Hey starcade, you say:<br /><br /><I> The math doesn't work here. You cannot maintain the way of life and the present population, especially when the correlation between the two has been pretty much solely based on a credit bubble ...</I><BR><BR>Right now those boyz are sucking up the vital fluids and in that effort marginalizing many. They will blow another bubble it just won't be quite as largeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-79764420784831596932009-04-21T07:42:00.000-04:002009-04-21T07:42:00.000-04:00Starcade - I think this entire consumer culture ha...Starcade - I think this entire consumer culture has been dependent on the availability of credit, individuals and especially to companies. If credit is declined, how can any business (small or large) survive?bluebirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600634086150466162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-70012989190964652552009-04-21T01:11:00.000-04:002009-04-21T01:11:00.000-04:00It's as I've said to people (and they don&...It's as I've said to people (and they don't believe me, because they think that all these companies are still really operating rather than basically lurching around like zombies in a Michael Jackson video):<br /><br />There won't be a bank standing by the end of this. The only reason most any company is still in operation these days is because of the very same tricks that I&SStarcadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09226367306835781483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-24345695204805483772009-04-21T00:52:00.000-04:002009-04-21T00:52:00.000-04:00Such is the nature of fractals.Ah, it's great to s...<I>Such is the nature of fractals.</I>Ah, it's great to see some notice of the chaotic nature of things! If more people understood Chaos Theory, I mean really had a sense of the nature of it and how much it is reflected in the world around us, including human behavior, the responses to much might be vastly different. <br /><br />This is essentially what Taleb is on about with his Black Swans. If ccpohttp://aperfectstormcometh.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-76933339820837732672009-04-21T00:47:00.000-04:002009-04-21T00:47:00.000-04:00I&S,
Thanks for posting an article and video ...I&S,<br /><br />Thanks for posting an article and video of Max Keiser about hunger. In the midst of obscene handouts in the trillions to Wall Street, not even a crumb is set aside for the poor and malnourished. <br /><br />I can picture Goldman Sachs executives laughing and giving each other high fives in a boardroom whilst asking each other, "Who's your daddy?" And, on the Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-14026544510164714622009-04-20T23:48:00.000-04:002009-04-20T23:48:00.000-04:00I've been really appreciating everything from Ilar...I've been really appreciating everything from Ilargi and Stoneleigh the past week or two. Really really strong stuff. Ilargi's outrage is my voice, screaming what I need to scream.Submit your advicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01867890217907128363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-74043204075578479612009-04-20T22:13:00.000-04:002009-04-20T22:13:00.000-04:00Tawanda,
I'm on the road at the moment and have t...Tawanda,<br /><br />I'm on the road at the moment and have to finish a written submission to a parliamentary committee in between meetings.<br /><br />If you're wondering about the markets, I think this is a pullback in the sucker rally, but I don't think the rally is over. It may look like it is for a while, but unless the early March low is broken, I'd say we're still looking at a summer Stoneleighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15099878430757036461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-73351925804161591542009-04-20T21:56:00.000-04:002009-04-20T21:56:00.000-04:00Has anybody seen or heard of an update regarding S...Has anybody seen or heard of an update regarding Stoneleigh's schedule and availability?Tawandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145576070845361364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-82279354268900500782009-04-20T21:01:00.000-04:002009-04-20T21:01:00.000-04:00Jeez, TOD admitted to a scheduling mess up. They g...Jeez, TOD admitted to a scheduling mess up. They get paid even less than I&S. Cut them some slack.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752307987743035281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4921988708619968880.post-57579701331327202762009-04-20T20:53:00.000-04:002009-04-20T20:53:00.000-04:00Totally off topic, but is anyone else annoyed that...Totally off topic, but is anyone else annoyed that TOD has had TWO (2) prominent posts about "Space-based Solar Power" for the past TWO days?<br /><br />Talk about jumping the techno-triumphalist credibility shark...yikes...thethirdcoasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828310354952426682noreply@blogger.com