Monday, June 13, 2011

June 13 2011: The Derivatives Pressure Cooker


Detroit Publishing Co. Steam tractor on a railcar on a boat on ice 1905
"Two brand-new Buffalo-Pitts steam tractors on a flatcar aboard the transfer steamer City of Detroit on the Detroit River in winter"


Ilargi: Last week, Prof. Robert Shiller told Reuters that he thinks another 25% drop in US home prices across the board is very possible, if not likely. Add up the 33% decline to date and a 25% fall from here and you're about at 50%. That would mean a loss in American "household wealth" of some $11 trillion. Here's saying that the US economy can't take that sort of plunge and hope to live to see another day in anywhere near its present or recent shape.

And that's just the most visible part of the iceberg: an additional 25% drop would also tremendously increase the pressure on mortgage backed securities (MBS), and with them perhaps lots of other derivatives, to such an extent that the mark-to-fantasy US FASB 157 accounting non-standards may well become untenable. At some point people need to know, and demand to know, what the real value is of assets they hold, and assets held by companies and financial institutions, if only in order to determine the value of said institutions.

So when Tyler Durden at Zero Hedge says that Ben Bernanke’s QE2 went almost exclusively to foreign banks, color me not surprised (even if I have some questions on Durden's assessments). The sellers and counterparties for the US MBS are largely American institutions, and they sold them all over the world. To China, to Japan, and to foreign banks and funds. In case of a default, a credit event, it's these American institutions that will have to pay up.

And while there are still many different interpretations floating around of what does and does not constitute a credit event, the risks are obvious. Moreover, a big chunk of the MBS issued by for instance Countrywide (bought by BofA) Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and AIG (all bought by the state) now sits on the books of the Federal Reserve. Which may well have forked over the QE2 $600 billion to hush MBS holders, and so push a possible credit event further down the road. If so, then the Fed isn't just saving foreign banks at the expense of the US taxpayer, no matter how juicy a bit that is for the media, but saving US banks from trillions of dollars in forced pay-outs.

By now, though, we need to start wondering for real how much longer this can continue. Especially, because a credit event looms big in Europe, particularly at the negotiating tables for the next Greece bailout. Over the past few days, Der Spiegel ran a series of articles on the situation:
Greek Debt Swap: Private Creditors Could Agree to €35 Billion Rollover
[..] However, both the European Central Bank and France are insisting that any rollover be conducted on a voluntary basis. They fear that any move to force private creditors to participate might lead ratings agencies to punish Greece with a "default" rating.

But the ratings agencies operate according to their own logic. A current statement by Standard & Poor's says that the agency would have no problem with a debt swap if it took place on a purely voluntary basis. If, however, default is possible - as is the case in a country like Greece - and a rating has already fallen, then "we may conclude that investors have been pressured into accepting because they fear more-adverse consequences were they to decline the exchange offer."

In other words, investors would only agree to a swap because they fear the issuer would fail to meet its original obligations. Thus, the rescue operation could actually be interpreted by the agencies as a prediction of insolvency. If that were to happen, Greece would be considered insolvent in the eyes of the financial markets and would be unable to raise money through private investors for some time to come.

Ilargi: And:
Greece Needs a New Bailout
The troika of the European Commission, European Central Bank and IMF has prepared a sobering report on Greece's efforts to combat a debt crisis. The document, which has been obtained by SPIEGEL ONLINE, concludes that Athens will not be able to return to capital markets in 2012 and a further massive bailout will be needed soon.[..]

The IMF's statutes stipulate that the organization can only lend a country money if it is certain that the state will be able to meet its payment obligations for the next 12 months.

The new report has now made it clear that Greece is not in a position to guarantee that, meaning that the IMF cannot transfer any more money while there is still a chance of Greece defaulting within the coming 12 months. "Given the remoteness of Greece returning to funding markets in 2012, the adjustment program is now underfinanced. The next disbursement cannot take place before this underfinancing is resolved" [..]

Ilargi: If Greece can't repay its obligations in 2012, the IMF can't finance it. That would mean a restructuring, soft or not, i.e. a default, would be necessary. But so far the ECB refuses to even discuss one, even though Germany now favors it. For Germany and its allies, this all hinges on the "voluntary" cooperation by those financial institutions who hold Greek debt: French, German and other European banks, plus Greek and other pension funds. Voluntary here of course means what Don Corleone meant when he said: "I made him an offer he couldn’t refuse".

In preparation for this volunteerism, banks are selling off their Greek bonds like there's no tomorrow (pun intended). They do so at sharp discounts to hedge funds and perhaps at 100 cents on the dollar to the ECB, which, like the Fed, is now loaded with zombie paper (the ECB has €10 billion in equity and is rumored to face potential losses of €30-€40 billion in the case of a "declared" Greece credit event.

In that picture, I found it very striking that Juergen Stark, Germany's man at that very ECB, said this to Reuters last week:
ECB's Stark: Avoiding credit event hard with debt deal
The ECB is not strictly against private sector involvement in a Greek deal but its demand that it does not trigger a 'credit event' looks increasing unlikely to be possible, policymaker Juergen Stark said on Friday.

"The ECB is neither demander on this instrument or against the involvement of the private sector, but the conditions have to be clear, the involvement has to be purely voluntary and neither take in a credit event nor a selective default, or in other terms room to create a rating event," Stark told reporters on the sidelines of annual ECB watchers conference.

His comments came a day after ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet stiffened the ECB's stance on a Greek restructuring. Stark said feedback from rating agencies over the last two weeks had changed the situation. "It is not very likely that a substantial involvement of the private sector will be totally voluntary," he said.

Ilargi: What this seems to tell us is that, ahead of the June 24 deadline (a heads of state meeting in Brussels), there is no compromise on the table yet. Ratings agencies S&P, Moody's and Fitch may have a prominent place at the table, since their judgments are crucial to any deal.

Still, if I were a gambling man, I'd bet that they will come up with some last-minute thing that smells worse than a skunk but will be accepted by all parties as being a thoroughbred racehorse. The EU will announce that the day's been saved, and once the European Stability Mechanism comes into place in 2013, and the ECB has additional powers, all will be fine.

But if I still were that same gambling man, I'd also bet that they won't make it into 2013 in one piece. The risks and losses are simply too great.

A substantial added drop in US home prices between now and January 1, 2013 looks set in stone. And Greece is only one of a handful of Eurozone countries that require financial assistance. Even if we leave alone for the time being the awful state of financial affairs in American states and municipalities, it is clear that the pressure on the derivatives "industry" will increase. And as it does, so will the losses. This can only be avoided if and when there's a significant uptick in US real estate and/or substantial economic growth in the EU periphery. Obviously, the chance of either of these things actually happening approaches zero.

Greek 2-year bonds are reportedly trading for 71 cents on the dollar, and investors are kindly requested to accept at least a 30-50% haircut on their assets (how about 70-80%?). An extra 25% plunge in US home prices from today would mean another $4-$5 trillion in "wealth" would disappear from the American economy.

That's bad enough. But it's not the worst. The worst is the derivatives, the so-called insurance, the swaps and securities, that have been written on all the paper. Settling the over the counter paper under the table forever is not an option. There will be parties that demand to be paid. What else do you buy insurance for?

And then of course there's the Greeks in the streets: if they find out to what extent their government has sold them out in order to keep the peace in the credit default swaps universe, chances are they'll be in the streets until that government is gone, and any potential deals with the IMF and ECB declared null and void. And as if that's not enough, people in Spain will do the same when bond markets turn on their country (as in right after a Greek deal is signed).

The IMF and ECB will then be called into Madrid to forge a deal there. And I'm thinking they can't do that, not without shaking the financial world to its core. At the very least, they’ll need a stronger union, a United States of Europe. And that will never be accepted.

We're watching a pressure cooker heating up. And the parties that pretend to have control over it, no longer do. They do, however, still have their hands in your pockets and wallets.










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There Will Be Blood in Europe (Courtesy of the ECB)
by Justice Litle - Taipan Publishing Group

The ECB (European Central Bank)'s plan to "kick the can down the road" as long as possible requires kicking in the teeth of the eurozone periphery countries. It could lead to uprising.

Europe is supposed to be the land of compassion and enlightened social policy. America is supposed to be the domain of "jungle capitalism" and brutal discrepancies between rich and poor. Your editor heard this over and over as a student abroad in the late '90s. At the Oxford Union, a student debating society, there were spirited discussions on the treatment of the underclass. At Pulacky University in the Czech Republic, in the afterglow of the Velvet Revolution, we were reminded that America, too, had its brutal edges like the communists. Even the laid-back Aussies (during your editor's study time down under) thought the Yanks a bit harsh on social policy.

And yet now it is Europe, not the U.S., determined to grind the masses under the heel of a crony capitalism boot. The ECB (European Central Bank)'s determination to force "austerity" on the periphery countries -- and to avoid debt restructuring at all costs -- is driving multiple generations to the brink. There are families that can barely eat as neither mother nor father can find a job. There are millions of young and unemployed with no real hope of an economic future. Tens of thousands surround Greek parliament almost daily.

And meanwhile ECB bureaucrats, that enlightened bunch, can only think of the bankers and their ilk. Europe's determination to "kick the can down the road" at all costs actually involves kicking in the teeth of the peripheral eurozone economies, forcing them to endure deep recession or even outright depression conditions for years to come.

Bankruptcy is frowned on in polite company, but there is a humane reason it exists. Beyond a certain point -- when the debt load becomes intolerable -- the prospect of financial freedom vanishes completely. Without bankruptcy, the noose of debt (interest on top of interest) can tighten around a man's neck for life. Allowing for bankruptcy is not just humane, it helps keep the free market healthy. Debtors who find themselves in impossible situations are given a fresh chance to become productive again. And creditors who lose lending capital become more diligent (and thus more productive) in whom they choose to lend to.

Bankruptcy can happen to countries too. When a country is told "you are not allowed to default at any cost," this is where the moral questions get sticky. Should the debt sins of one profligate generation be passed on to the next? What about the next generation still, and the one after that? And what if the great weight of debt was born of foolish loans -- stupid credit from stupid banks? Should the leverage-happy lenders be protected at all costs? Should the perpetrators and purveyors of such suicidal leverage be enabled to walk away scot-free?

What Europe is practicing has nothing to do with human compassion, or even free market capitalism. Instead it is the worst form of Darwinism. "Survival of the fittest" has simply come to mean "Survival of the most connected." The europe banks are being looked after because they have the best connections, which they paid for with hard cash and soft influence. Those with deep hooks in the system have ensured their interests will prevail. Those without are left to go hang.

It has been predicted by many that America's experiment with leverage and debt is going to end in disaster. Your editor is fairly convinced, though, that the USA is not where such disaster is likely to strike first. At some point -- perhaps quite soon -- the brute-force social inequalities in Europe are simply going to explode, like oil drums full of kerosene sitting in 100-degree heat. Citizens of Greece, Ireland and Portugal are going to realize they are not just getting a bad deal from the ECB, they are being financially mauled.

When this realization gathers full force, we could see a sort of "Fiscal Arab Spring" in the eurozone, embracing multiple generations of pissed-off and disenfranchised citizens. Europe's current crop of leaders, determined to sacrifice the economic future of multiple countries on the altar of the banks, will be told where they can go. At some point, the citizens of Europe's periphery countries will remember what democracy is for. And if their rising voices are not heard, there will be blood and fire on a scale not yet seen. And the fallout will rock markets globally.

It will be a fairly awesome sight to behold. (As will the euro's spiraling decline -- and the dollar's jaw-dropping rally -- when this plays out.) Stepping back a bit: What is so frightening right now, not just in Europe but China and America and Japan too, is the presence of fraud-fueled "Lehman 2.0" catalysts threatening to explode. One could say that the 2008 financial crisis was the mother of all wake-up calls. But instead of actually waking up, the powers that be slammed the alarm clock, choked down a fistful of Ambien, and rolled back to sleep. As a result, the world is going to get an even bigger wake-up call in the not-so-distant future.




Eurozone v ECB: bust-up looms
by LEX - Financial Times

The gloves are off in the eurozone’s fight for survival. Ireland is jousting with France over corporate tax rates; the European Union and the International Monetary Fund have skirmished over Portugal; the Greeks are fighting with everybody, including themselves. The bust-up investors really need to watch, though, is the one looming between Frankfurt and Berlin. It will shape the resolution of the eurozone crisis.

The institutions squaring off are the European Central Bank and the German government and parliament. The ECB has been consistent in its opposition to bailing in private investors to a restructuring of Greek debt. That remains the position of Jean-Claude Trichet, the bank’s president: a "credit event" by Greece must be avoided. That used to be the position of the German government. Not any more. Wolfgang Schäuble, Germany’s finance minister, wants a private sector contribution as a condition of German participation in any more bail-out funds for Athens.

That represents a U-turn by Berlin but who, apart from the ECB, has not been doing that during this crisis? The form that such a bail-in might take is unclear. A Vienna initiative-style rollover of Greek debt on maturity – with investors agreeing to accept longer-dated paper when their existing debt matures – is one option. The question is whether that qualifies for the ECB’s definition of a "credit event". If the involvement of private investors is entirely voluntary, perhaps Mr Trichet can be persuaded that it does not.

The two parties most vital to the resolution of the eurozone crisis and the survival of the euro are in conflict. In theory, that should concern markets. Yet it could hasten rather than delay a resolution by making the critical problems explicit. As the crisis enters a decisive phase, investors should ensure a ringside seat for what follow




The Fed's $600 Billion Stealth Bailout Of Foreign Banks Continues At The Expense Of The Domestic Economy, Or Explaining Where All The QE2 Money Went
by Tyler Durden - Zero Hedge

Courtesy of the recently declassified Fed discount window documents, we now know that the biggest beneficiaries of the Fed's generosity during the peak of the credit crisis were foreign banks, among which Belgium's Dexia was the most troubled, and thus most lent to, bank. Having been thus exposed, many speculated that going forward the US central bank would primarily focus its "rescue" efforts on US banks, not US-based (or local branches) of foreign (read European) banks: after all that's what the ECB is for, while the Fed's role is to stimulate US employment and to keep US inflation modest.

And furthermore, should the ECB need to bail out its banks, it could simply do what the Fed does, and monetize debt, thus boosting its assets, while concurrently expanding its excess reserves thus generating fungible capital which would go to European banks. Wrong. Below we present that not only has the Fed's bailout of foreign banks not terminated with the drop in discount window borrowings or the unwind of the Primary Dealer Credit Facility, but that the only beneficiary of the reserves generated were US-based branches of foreign banks (which in turn turned around and funnelled the cash back to their domestic branches), a shocking finding which explains not only why US banks have been unwilling and, far more importantly, unable to lend out these reserves, but that anyone retaining hopes that with the end of QE2 the reserves that hypothetically had been accumulated at US banks would be flipped to purchase Treasurys, has been dead wrong, therefore making the case for QE3 a done deal.

In summary, instead of doing everything in its power to stimulate reserve, and thus cash, accumulation at domestic (US) banks which would in turn encourage lending to US borrowers, the Fed has been conducting yet another stealthy foreign bank rescue operation, which rerouted $600 billion in capital from potential borrowers to insolvent foreign financial institutions in the past 7 months. QE2 was nothing more (or less) than another European bank rescue operation!

For those who can't wait for the punchline, here it is. Below we chart the total cash holdings of Foreign-related banks in the US using weekly H.8 data.

Note the $630 billion increase in foreign bank cash balances since November 3, which just so happens is the date when the Fed commenced QE2 operations in the form of adding excess reserves to the liability side of its balance sheet. Here is the change in Fed reserves during QE2 (from the Fed's H.4.1 statement, ending with the week of June 1).

Above, note that Fed reserves increased by $610 billion for the duration of QE2 through the week ending June 1 (and by another $70 billion in the week ending June 8, although since we only have bank cash data through June 1, we use the former number, although we are certain that the bulk of this incremental cash once again went to foreign financial institutions).

So how did cash held by US banks fare during QE2? Well, not good. The chart below demonstrates cash balances at small and large US domestic banks, as well as the cash at foreign banks, all of which is compared to total Fed reserves plotted on the same axis. It pretty much explains it all.

The chart above has tremendous implications for everything from US and European monetary policy, to exhange rate and trade policy, to the current account on both sides of the Atlantic, to US fiscal policy, to borrowing and lending activity in the US, and, lastly, to QE 3.

What is the first notable thing about the above chart is that while cash levels in US and US-based foreign-banks correlate almost perfectly with the Fed's reserve balances, as they should, there is a notable divergence beginning around May of 2010, or the first Greek bailout, when Europe was in a state of turmoil, and when cash assets of foreign banks jumped by $200 billion, independent of the Fed and of cash holdings by US banks.

About 6 months later, this jump in foreign bank cash balances had plunged to the lowest in years, due to repatriated fungible cash being used to plug undercapitalized local operations, with total cash just $265 billion as of November 17, just as QE2 was commencing. Incidentally, the last time foreign banks had this little cash was April 2009... Just as QE1 was beginning. As to what happens next, the first chart above says it all: cash held by foreign banks jumps from $308 billion on November 3, or the official start of QE2, to $940 billion as of June 1: an almost dollar for dollar increase with the increase in Fed reserve balances.

In other words, while the Fed did nothing to rescue foreign banks in the aftermath of the first Greek crisis, aside from opening up FX swap lines, one can argue that the whole point of QE2 was not so much to spike equity markets, or the proverbial "third mandate" of Ben Bernanke, but solely to rescue European banks!

What this observation also means, is that the bulk of risk asset purchasing by dealer desks (if any), has not been performed by US-based primary dealers, as has been widely speculated, but by foreign dealers, which have the designatin of "Primary" with the Federal Reserve. Below is the list of 20 Primary Dealers currently recognized by the New York Fed. The foreign ones, with US-based operations, are bolded:

  • BNP Paribas Securities Corp.
  • Barclays Capital Inc.
  • Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.
  • Citigroup Global Markets Inc.
  • Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
  • Daiwa Capital Markets America Inc.
  • Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
  • Goldman, Sachs & Co.
  • HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.
  • Jefferies & Company, Inc.
  • J.P. Morgan Securities LLC
  • MF Global Inc.
  • Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated
  • Mizuho Securities USA Inc.
  • Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC
  • Nomura Securities International, Inc.
  • RBC Capital Markets, LLC
  • RBS Securities Inc.
  • SG Americas Securities, LLC
  • UBS Securities LLC.

That's right, out of 20 Primary Dealers, 12 are.... foreign. And incidentally, the reason why we added the (if any) above, is that since this cash is fungible between on and off-shore operations, what happened is that the $600 billion in cash was promptly repatriated and used by domestic branches of foreign banks to fill undercapitalization voids left by exposure to insolvent European PIIGS and for all other bankruptcy-related capital needs. And one wonders why suddenly German banks are so willing to take haircuts on Greek bonds: it is simply because courtesy of their US based branches which have been getting the bulk of the Fed's dollars in 1 and 0 format, they suddenly find themselves willing and ready to face the mark to market on Greek debt from par to 50 cents on the dollar.

And not only Greek, but all other PIIGS, which will inevitably happen once Greece goes bankrupt, either volutnarily or otherwise. In fact, the $600 billion in cash that was repatriated to Europe will mean that European banks likely are fully covered to face the capitalization shortfall that will occur once Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain and possibly Italy are forced to face the inevitable Event of Default that will see their bonds marked down anywhere between 20% and 60%. Of course, this will also expose the ECB as an insolvent central bank, but that largely explains why Germany has been so willing to allow Mario Draghi to take the helm at an institution that will soon be left insolvent, and also explains the recent shocking animosity between Angela Merkel and Jean Claude Trichet: the German are preparing for the end of the ECB, and thanks to Ben Bernanke they are certainly capitalized well enough to handle the end of Europe's lender of first and last resort.

But don't take our word for this: here is Stone McCarthy's explanation of what massive reserve sequestering by foreign banks means: "Foreign banks operating in the US often lend reserves to home offices or other banks operating outside the US. These loans do not change the volume of excess reserves in the system, but do support the funding of dollar denominated assets outside the US....Foreign banks operating in the US do not present a large source of C&I, Consumer, or Real Estate Loans. These banks represent about 16% of commercial bank assets, but only about 9% of bank credit. Thus, the concern that excess reserves will quickly fuel lending activities and money growth is probably diminished by the skewing of excess reserve balances towards foreign banks."

Which brings us to point #2: prepare for the Bernanke hearings and possible impeachment. For if it becomes popular knowledge that the Chairman of the Fed, despite explicit instructions to enforce the trickle down of "printed" dollars to US banks, was only concerned about rescuing foreign banks with the $600 billion in excess cash created out of QE2, then all political hell is about to break loose, and not even Democrats will be able to defend Bernanke's actions to a public furious with the complete inability to procure a loan. Any loan.

Furthermore the data above proves beyond a reasonable doubt why there has been no excess lending by US banks to US borrowers: none of the cash ever even made it to US banks! This also resolves the mystery of the broken money multiplier and why the velocity of money has imploded.

Implication #3 explains why the US dollar has been as week as it has since the start of QE 2. Instead of repricing the EUR to a fair value, somewhere around parity with the USD, this stealthy fund flow from the US to Europe to the tune of $600 billion has likely resulted in an artificial boost in the european currency to the tune of 2000-3000 pips, keeping it far from its fair value of about 1.1 EURUSD. If this data does not send European (read German) exporters into a blind rage, after the realization that the Fed (most certainly with the complicity of the G7) was willing to sacrifice European economic output in order to plug European bank undercapitalization, then nothing will.

But implication #4 is by far the most important. Recall that Bill Gross has long been asking where the cash to purchase bonds come the end of QE 2 would come from.

Well, the punditry, in its parroting groupthink stupidity (validated by precisely zero actual research), immediately set forth the thesis that there is no problem: after all banks would simply reverse the process of reserve expansion and use the $750 billion in Cash that will be accumulated by the end of QE 2 on June 30 to purchase US Treasurys.

Wrong.

The above data destroys this thesis completely: since the bulk of the reserve induced bank cash has long since departed US shores and is now being used to ratably fill European bank balance sheet voids, and since US banks have benefited precisely not at all from any of the reserves generated by QE 2, there is exactly zero dry powder for the US Primary Dealers to purchase Treasurys starting July 1.

This observation may well be the missing link that justifies the Gross argument, as it puts to rest any speculation that there is any buyer remaining for Treasurys. Alas: the digital cash generated by the Fed's computers has long since been spent... a few thousand miles east of the US.

Which leads us to implication #5. QE 3 is a certainty. The one thing people focus on during every episode of monetary easing is the change in Fed assets, which courtesy of LSAP means a jump in Treasurys, MBS, Agency paper, or (for the tin foil brigade) ES: the truth is all these are a distraction. The one thing people always forget is the change in Fed liabilities, all of them: currency in circulation, which has barely budged in the past 3 years, and far more importantly- excess reserves, which as this article demonstrates, is the electronic "cash" that goes to needy banks the world over in order to fund this need or that. In fact, it is the need to expand the Fed's liabilities that is and has always been a driver of monetary stimulus, not the need to boost Fed assets.

The latter is, counterintuitively, merely a mathematical aftereffect of matching an asset-for-liability expansion. This means that as banks are about to face yet another risk flaring episode in the next several months, the Fed will need to release another $500-$1000 billion in excess reserves. As to what asset will be used to match this balance sheet expansion, why take your picK; the Fed could buy MBS, Muni bonds, Treasurys, or go Japanese, and purchase ETFs, REITs, or just go ahead and outright buy up every underwater mortgage in the US. This side of the ledger is largely irrelevant, and will serve only two functions: to send the S&P surging, and to send the precious metal complex surging2 as it becomes clear that the dollar is now entirely worthless.

That said, of all of the above, the one we are most looking forward to is the impeachment of Ben Bernanke: because if there is one definitive proof of the Fed abdicating any and all of its mandates, and merely playing the role of globofunder explicitly at the expense of US consumers and borrowers, not to mention lackey for the banking syndicate, this is it.





The Sickness Beneath the Slump
by Robert J. Shiller - New York Times

The origins of the current economic crisis can be traced to a particular kind of social epidemic: a speculative bubble that generated pervasive optimism and complacency. That epidemic has run its course. But we are now living with the malaise it caused.

News accounts of the economic crisis rarely put it in these terms. They tend to focus on distinct short-term developments or on the roles of prominent people like Federal Reserve governors, members of Congress or Wall Street financiers. These stories grab attention and may be supported by some of the economic statistics that the government and private institutions collect.

But the economic situation is primarily driven by hard-to-quantify sociological factors that play out over many years. The uptick in the unemployment rate, to 9.1 percent from 8.8 percent two months earlier and the drop in stock prices over the last month have attracted notice, yet in a sense they are symptoms of a deeper economic sickness.

Real estate prices have been a significant indicator of this ailment. An unprecedented bubble in American home prices started in 1997 and ended five years ago. Home prices rose 131 percent in that time, or 85 percent in real inflation-corrected terms, according to the S.& P./Case-Shiller National Home Price index. (I helped to develop that index, along with Karl Case of Wellesley College.) Around the same time, there were bubbles in the nation’s commercial real estate and farmland. And there were real estate bubbles in many other countries, too.

Consider this: Home prices rose nearly 10 percent a year on average in the United States from 1997 to 2006, long enough for many people to become accustomed to the pace and to view it as normal. The conventional 30-year fixed mortgage rate averaged 6.8 percent over those years, far below the appreciation rate on housing, so even if you had a substantial mortgage, you were becoming wealthier by the day, at least on paper. People who owned a home over that period had reason to feel pretty well off and proud of their investment acumen. That fed a contagion of optimism and helped to drive the speculative bubble, propelling the economy and the stock market in a feedback loop that repeated year after year.

Professor Case and I have conducted annual spring surveys of home-buyer attitudes for many years. We ask about long-term expectations: "On average over the next 10 years how much do you expect the value of your property to change each year?"

The survey we conducted in spring 2005, near the end of the bubble, included 407 home buyers. In it, the median expectation for home price appreciation over the next decade — until 2015 — was 7 percent a year. That is substantially less than the 10 percent a year that Americans had recently experienced.

But expected increases of 7 percent a year still implied another doubling of home prices by 2015. And about a quarter of our respondents in 2005 anticipated increases of at least 15 percent a year for the next decade. Something was very wrong with this picture, but few noticed it.

As it turned out, of course, those expected increases didn’t happen. Instead, home prices tumbled 34 percent nationally from the peak in the first quarter of 2006 to the first quarter of 2011 — or 40 percent in real terms — and they still appear to be falling. The brief "recovery" in home prices of 2009 and 2010 was most likely spurred by federal housing stimulus measures like the home buyer tax credit. After that stimulus ended, prices resumed their downward trend.

During the bubble, the sense of rising wealth and high expectations gave people a good reason to spend and a greater willingness to plunge into investment, too. Government policy makers breathed in the same optimism, which no doubt encouraged them to be lax on regulatory restraint.

The mood is far different now. Our latest survey, covering April and May of this year, included 296 home buyers, and their median expectation for annual home price appreciation over the next decade was down sharply, to just 3 percent. And, in comparison with the 2005 results, few people had extravagant expectations.

The 3 percent figure is well below prevailing rates for 30-year mortgages, now hovering between 4.5 and 5 percent. Amid such low expectations, buying a home with a mortgage certainly isn’t being viewed as a way to get rich.

Even for people who have other reasons to buy a house, there may be little urgency to do so. Our 2011 survey found that the median expectation for home price appreciation next year is just 1 percent. So it won’t be surprising if new home sales remain abysmally low and few jobs are created in the hard-hit construction industry. And it shouldn’t be a shock if the personal savings rate stays at around 5 percent, as it has recently, up from around 1 percent in 2005. This would mean that consumer spending will not drive a strong recovery.

A half-century ago, there was a lively discussion among economists about the dynamics of price expectations. For example, Alain C. Enthoven, then of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Kenneth J. Arrow of Stanford wrote in 1956 that expectations that extrapolate past price increases can produce economic instability. But that thinking was largely cast aside in the 1960s, when my profession embraced the theory that efficient markets formed by people holding rational expectations could explain virtually all economic activity.

As a result, economists in recent decades have not developed expectations theory much further. That needs to be corrected in coming years. In the meantime, this failing helps explain why the current crisis was generally unpredicted, and why its future course is so poorly understood.




It's The Debt, Dummy
by Jim Quinn - Burning Platform

I think charts tell a story that allows you to disregard  the lies being spewed by those in power. Below are four charts that tell the truth about our current predicament. The first is from http://www.mybudget360.com/. The austerity and debt reduction storyline being sold by the MSM is a crock. The total amount of mortgage debt outstanding peaked at $14.6 trillion in 2008. The total amount of consumer debt (credit cards, auto loans, student, boats) outstanding peaked at $2.6 trillion in 2008.

Today, mortgage debt outstanding stands at $13.8 trillion, while consumer debt stands at $2.4 trillion. Therefore, total consumer debt has declined by $1 trillion in the last three years. The MSM and talking heads use this data to declare that consumers have been paying down debt. This is a complete and utter falsehood. The banks have written off more than $1 trillion, which the American taxpayer has unwittingly reimbursed them for. Consumers have not deleveraged. They have taken on more debt since 2008. GMAC (Ally Bank) is handing out 0% down 0% interest loans like candy again.


Never has a chart shown why the country is such a mess, with no easy way out. It was the early 1980′s and the Boomers were between 23 years old and 40 years old. Seventy six million Boomers were in the work force. Was it the chicken or the egg? The financial industry peddled debt as the solution to all problems. But, it was up to the Boomers to take on the debt or live within their means. Boomers chose to live for today and worry about tomorrow at some later date. There is no doubt what they did. The chart tells the story. Boomers can moan and blame and point the finger at others, but they took on the debt in order to live at a higher standard than their income would allow. This is why 60% of retirees have less than $50,000 in savings today. This is why 67% of all workers in the US have less than $50,000 in savings. A full 46% of all workers have less than $10,000 in savings.

In order for this economy to become balanced again would require consumer debt to be reduced by $3 to $4 trillion and the savings rate to double from 5% to 10%. This will never happen voluntarily. Americans are still delusional. They are actually increasing their debt as credit card debt sits at $790 billion, student loan debt at $1 trillion, auto loans at $600 billion, and mortgage debt at $13.8 trillion. The debt will not decline until an economic Depression wipes out banks and consumers alike. America will go down with a bang, not a whimper.

Household net worth peaked at $65.8 trillion in Q2 2007. Net worth fell to $49.4 trillion in Q1 2009 (a loss of over $16 trillion), and net worth was at $58.1 trillion in Q1 2011 (up $8.7 trillion from the trough). So, household net worth is still down by $7.7 trillion from its 2007 peak. The really bad news is that the real estate portion of household net worth dropped from $22.7 trillion in 2007 to $16.1 trillion today, a $6.6 trillion loss. Real estate continues to fall.

You can clearly see who benefitted from the monetary and fiscal stimulus implemented by Bernanke, Geithner, and Obama. If household net worth is up $8.7 trillion from the trough in early 2009, but real estate has continued to fall. This means that the entire increase in net worth came from stock market gains. As you may or may not know, the top 10% wealthiest people in the US own 81% of all the stocks in the country. The other 90% own virtually no stocks, so they have been left with depreciating houses and inflating bills for energy and food. The top 10% are about to take another multi-trillion dollar hit in the next six months as QE2 ends and the stock market implodes. This will knock the country back into deep recession. 


The most amazing chart of all time is the one below showing home equity since 1952. In a normal non-delusional world, people pay down the principal on their mortgage month after month, resulting in their equity in the house methodically rising. National home prices doubled between 2000 and 2005. One might ask, how in the hell could home equity drop from 60% to 58% between 2000 and 2005 when home prices went up 100%? Equity should have risen to 75%. Well the delusional Boomers struck again. The banks made it as easy as hitting the ATM to get equity out of your house and the Boomers jumped in with both feet, as usual. Americans withdrew $2.8 trillion of fake equity from their homes between 2003 and 2007. They lived the lifestyles of the rich and famous. BMWs, Mercedes, cement ponds (pools), new kitchens, Jacuzzis, home theaters, exotic vacations, hookers, facelifts, size DDs, and putting a little more in the church basket abounded.

This astounding level of stupidity and hubris left millions of Americans vulnerable when the bubble popped all over their faces. Millions have lost their homes. Almost 11 million more are underwater on their mortgage. There is years of pain to go. Household equity is now at an all-time low of 38.1%. What makes this number even more amazing is that 33% of all homes are owned outright with no mortgage. This means that the 50 million houses with a mortgage have far less than 38.1% equity. The people who sucked hundreds of thousands out of their houses to live the good life deserve to get it good and hard.


The last and most humorous graph shows how home price gains are fleeting, while the debt stays wrapped like an anchor around your neck. The greatest bubble in history was clear to Robert Shiller, John Mauldin and many other people with their eyes open. Ben Bernanke was not one of those people. He thought we had a solid housing market in 2005. Real estate values fell from 170% of GDP to 110% of GDP today, headed down to 90% or lower by 2015. The mortgage debt behind this real estate has declined by $634 billion, from 75% of GDP to 65% of GDP. Most of this was due to default, not payment.


It should be clear to anyone that we have a bit of a debt problem. The government solutions jammed down our throats since 2008 have added $7 trillion of debt to the national balance sheet. The only thing keeping this house of cards from collapsing immediately has been the extremely low interest rates put in place by the Federal Reserve. The end of QE2 potentially could result in interest rates rising. If interest rates were to rise 2%, this country’s economic system would implode. Time is not on our side. The debt cannot be repaid. The debt cannot be serviced. The debt has destroyed this country. Years from now when historians ponder what caused the great American Empire to collapse, the answer on the exam will be: IT WAS THE DEBT, DUMMY. 





Is the U.S. headed for another Great Depression?
by Konrad Yakabuski - Globe and Mail

If a depression by any other name would feel as bleak, what do you call the current state of the U.S. economy? A number of influential American economists are no longer mincing words: They argue that deficit-obsessed politicians in Washington are setting the United States up for a repeat of the 1930s.

"What we're experiencing may not be a full replay of the Great Depression, but that's little consolation for the millions of American families suffering from a slump that goes on and on," insists Nobel laureate Paul Krugman. "At some point, the pain of high unemployment may lead to some new thinking in Washington – but until that time, welcome to the second Great Depression," adds Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

At first blush, the analogy seems ludicrous. The U.S. unemployment rate hit 25 per cent during the Dirty Thirties. It's now at 9.1 per cent, after peaking at 10.1 per cent in late 2009. So-called automatic stabilizers – from unemployment benefits to food stamps – mean economic downturns now resemble a big pothole more than a bottomless pit. There are no bread lines.

Still, the Depression mystique has an irresistible lure. It informs (and invariably illustrates) our understanding of economic suffering in ways statistics cannot. A CNN poll this week found that 48 per cent of Americans expect another Great Depression within a year. Who are experts to tell them otherwise?

"The use of the word ‘depression' is an abuse of the language," says Sebastian Mallaby, director of the Maurice Greenberg Center for Geoeconomic Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. "But that doesn't mean I'm happy about where we are. There is a painful problem of long-term unemployment."

And on that level, the U.S. job market may actually be in worse shape than during the Depression. More than six million Americans, or about 45 per cent of the unemployed, have been out a job for more than six months. That's a higher proportion than at any point during the 1930s. In all, about 25 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed. And Washington may be about to make the situation worse.

Neglecting the lessons of 1937
A slew of stimulus measures have expired and more will soon. Unless Congress acts otherwise, the last of them – extended unemployment benefits and payroll tax cuts – will end on Dec. 31. Even before then, their impact may nullified if Republicans get their way and force the adoption of massive, immediate spending cuts in exchange for a deal to raise the $14.3-trillion (U.S.) federal debt ceiling by Aug. 2.

For economists of the Krugman-Baker school, 2011 is shaping up to look worryingly like 1937. Then, as now, politicians and policy makers mistook the absence of negative growth for a nascent recovery. They turned to slashing deficits and snuffing out the perceived threat of inflation. That Mistake of 1937 drove the economy back into the red.

Politicians on Capitol Hill seem strangely impervious to warnings of 1937 redux. Neither the news that the U.S. economy grew at an anemic 1.8 per cent in the first quarter, nor the fact that job creation in May was four times below the rate needed to keep up with population growth, tempered calls for spending cuts.

The White House is increasingly worried. No postwar president has won re-election with an unemployment rate above 7.2 per cent. But the policy debate on Capitol Hill, to the extent there has been one, is over. Congress is hell bent on deficit reduction. The best Barack Obama's administration can hope for is to moderate the pace of spending cuts.

Of course, the world should be thankful that Washington finally appears to be taking deficit reduction seriously. The credit-rating agencies have been ringing their alarms louder lately: Without a viable plan to rein in spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, the United States will hit a debt wall sooner or later.

In its December report, the deficit-reduction commission appointed by Mr. Obama and headed by Clinton-era budget director Erskine Bowles and ex-Republican senator Alan Simpson, recommended measures that would slash growth in the federal debt by $4-trillion by 2020. But that was well before a string of dismal reports – on jobs, housing, manufacturing and consumer spending – forced economists to revise their growth forecasts downward.

"In an ideal world, you'd have the promise of deficit reduction à la Simpson-Bowles commission coupled with continued stimulus now focused on supply-side benefits, such as infrastructure spending that would make the economy stronger later," Mr. Mallaby offers.

Instead, the current fight between Democrats and Republicans for political advantage could just lead to the worst of both worlds, as Congress moves to slash spending in the short term without risking the wrath of voters by reforming their cherished entitlements. If this is a recovery, why do we still feel sick?

Vice-President Joe Biden is brokering debt talks with congressional leaders as the clock ticks toward the Aug. 2 deadline. But additional short-term stimulus measures will be a tough sell. A group of 103 Republican members this week called for immediate spending cuts of $380-billion during the 2012 fiscal year, which starts this coming Oct. 1. "At a certain point, you have to back off the stimulus. The amount of debt you have becomes either politically or economically difficult to sustain," Mr. Mallaby explains. "We're at that point in a political sense more than an economic sense."

The result is that the U.S. economy appears condemned to endure a prolonged period of subpar growth, if not a double-dip recession. (So far, strong banks and a robust housing sector have insulated Canada from the pain it typically feels when the U.S. economy stalls. But for how long?)

Recoveries following a financial crisis tend to be slow going. By this point in the average postwar recovery, the U.S. gross domestic product had risen 9.4 per cent above its low point. But this time, U.S. GDP is up barely half that amount, according to Mr. Mallaby. He does not expect any sudden improvement. "The larger truth is that the pressure to rein in government spending, coupled with continued pressure on household consumption from soft house prices, points to tough times ahead," he wrote in a June 3 report. "The latest grim jobs report may not be the last."

It probably won't turn into a depression. For millions of Americans without anything else to compare it to, it will only feel like one.




Bank Of America Faces New Probe; New York Attorney General Launches Investigation Into Mortgage Securitization
by Shahien Nasiripour - Huffington Post

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman has targeted Bank of America, the biggest U.S. bank by assets, in a new probe that questions the validity of potentially thousands of mortgage securities and their associated foreclosures, two people familiar with the matter said.

The investigation, which began quietly in recent weeks, is part of a larger inquiry that is scrutinizing whether mortgage companies and Wall Street firms took the necessary steps under New York state law when creating mortgage-backed securities, these people said, who requested anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the probe.

Court testimony and independent studies have raised questions over whether banks and other financial firms passed along the required documents to trusts, the independent entities that oversee securities for investors. In some cases where trusts moved to seize borrowers' homes, judges have determined the trusts lacked legal standing due to faulty documentation.

The inquiry could prove explosive: Wall Street's great mortgage securitization machine took millions of home loans and bundled them into securities for sale to investors. If the legal steps that guide securitization -- like taking mortgage documents from one party to another, a critical step under New York law -- were not undertaken, then the investors who bought the bundled loans could force the companies to buy them back, compelling them to eat enormous losses. New York state investigators could also find that those securities aren't valid financial instruments at all and take action under state law.

The probe is part of a comprehensive investigation into Wall Street's activities before and after the credit crisis undertaken by New York's top cop. Schneiderman, a Democrat who rode to office by pointing out Wall Street's misdeeds, requested documents earlier this year from Bank of America, the largest lender and mortgage servicer, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley regarding their mortgage operations.
But an investigation into whether the securities these companies created are even valid represents a new front in his ongoing probe and raises fresh questions into the potential liability sellers of these mortgage instruments face.

Last November, the Congressional Oversight Panel, a federal watchdog created to keep tabs on the bailout, said widespread paperwork problems involving mortgage securities could cause the largest U.S. banks to swallow unknown billions in losses, threatening the stability of the financial system.

"If mortgages were not properly transferred in the securitization process, then mortgage-backed securities would in fact not be backed by any mortgages whatsoever," Adam J. Levitin, a bankruptcy expert and professor at Georgetown University Law Center, said at a House panel last November. Levitin said the problem could "cloud title to nearly every property in the United States" and could lead to trillions of dollars in losses.

The six largest U.S. banks, including Bank of America, Goldman and Morgan, currently hold nearly $668 billion in so-called Tier 1 capital, cash banks are required to hold as a backstop against unforeseen losses, Federal Reserve data as of March 31 show. All six companies are defined as "well capitalized" by federal bank regulators.

Schneiderman's inquiry also raises questions about the speed the Obama administration and a coalition of state attorneys general and bank regulators are moving towards a settlement agreement to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse.

The states' top cops and representatives of the Department of Justice, Federal Trade Commission, Department of Housing and Urban Development and the Treasury Department are pushing the nation's largest mortgage companies to pay about $20 billion in a deal to end the months-long probes into shoddy and possibly illegal practices employed by Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial.

While several investigations remain ongoing at the state and federal level, no agency has systematically examined loan-level documents to ensure the creation of mortgage securities complied with state laws or to examine the scope of sloppy paperwork in foreclosure proceedings, like the so-called "robo-signing" fiasco. In its November report, the bailout watchdog said that the "robo-signing of affidavits served to cover up the fact that loan servicers cannot demonstrate the facts required to conduct a lawful foreclosure." "In essence, banks may be unable to prove that they own the mortgage loans they claim to own," the panel said.

Sheila Bair, the chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, said at a Senate panel last month that "flawed mortgage banking processes have potentially infected millions of foreclosures." "The extent of the loss cannot be determined until there is a comprehensive review of the loan files and documentation of the process dealing with problem loans," she added. Despite that appraisal, Bair, along with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Shaun Donovan, secretary of Housing and Urban Development, have said they want a quick settlement.

Schneiderman's investigation of defective mortgage practices comes on the heels of public reports that Bank of America systematically failed to transfer essential documents to other entities in the daisy chain that turned home loans into securities to be sold on Wall Street.

A review of 104 New York foreclosure cases between 2006 and 2010 where Countrywide Financial made the original loan found that the nation's once-biggest home lender did not follow proper procedures in securitizing the mortgages, according to Abigail C. Field, a New York-based attorney who wrote a column about her findings for Fortune. Bank of America purchased Countrywide in 2008. The review "calls into question the securitization of these loans," Field wrote. She added that the findings also raise questions over the right of investors to foreclose on the borrowers who defaulted on their loans since the mortgage securities may be invalid.

In a New Jersey bankruptcy case last November, a Bank of America executive, Linda DeMartini, testified that Countrywide routinely did not convey crucial documents for loans sold to investors. The judge cited the testimony in dismissing the bank's claim against the borrower. Bank of America later said DeMartini essentially did not know what she was talking about. The case caused an uproar in mortgage banking and securitization circles because if Countrywide held onto essential documents -- rather than pass them onto the entity representing investors who bought their securities -- then investors could question whether the security was legal and force Bank of America to buy the investments back.

Investors in mortgage securities, which include pension funds and insurance companies, are currently embroiled in numerous lawsuits and private actions to compel banks to repurchase faulty mortgages. Some of the lawsuits raise questions over such paperwork problems.




Germany sticks to demand for Greek bond swap
by Noah Barkin and Harry Papachristou - Reuters

European paymaster Germany stuck to its guns on Friday in demanding that private investors contribute to a second bailout for Greece despite a European Central Bank warning against triggering market turmoil. Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble urged parliament to back additional aid for the heavily indebted euro zone country but said private creditor participation in a new package was "unavoidable" and reiterated he favored a bond swap that would push out Greek debt maturities by seven years.

The Bundestag lower house approved a non-binding resolution supporting extra emergency loans to Greece, but only on the condition that bondholders be made to share the burden.
Germany received backing for its stance from the Dutch, whose Prime Minister Mark Rutte said he viewed Berlin's debt proposals favorably. "If there are doubts about the ability of Greece to pay back its debt and we must win time with a new package, then the participation of the private sector in the solution is unavoidable," Schaeuble said in a speech to parliamentarians.

At a Brussels summit on June 23-24, European Union leaders are due to finalize a new rescue package for Greece that officials say will total 120 billion euros and ensure the country is funded through 2014. Half of that sum would come from the EU and IMF, with the remainder equally divided between privatization receipts and a contribution from the private sector, but deep divisions remain about how to get the banks that hold Greek debt on board.

A deal would not help reduce Greece's massive 340 billion euro debt load, but it would give the country more time to implement economic reforms and return to growth. Still, many economists believe Athens will struggle to avoid a harsher restructuring in the years ahead that imposes forced losses of 50 percent or more on holders of its debt.

The risk premiums on peripheral euro zone sovereign bonds rose on Friday as investors fretted over the lack of consensus just two weeks before the summit. But European Council President Herman Van Rompuy, who will chair the EU summit, said he was confident there would be an agreement on a new package for Greece by the end of the month, "creating no default or credit event."

Schaeuble dismissed criticism of his bond swap plan, telling lawmakers it was a fair solution that would protect taxpayers. "This would give Greece the necessary time to carry out reforms and win back confidence," he said. "It would limit the risks of a negative market reaction, establish fair burden-sharing between taxpayers and the private sector and send a clear signal to all that losses cannot be pushed on to taxpayers alone."

ECB Opposed
ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet made clear on Thursday the central bank opposed any scheme for private sector involvement that would cause a "credit event" or be considered by credit ratings agencies as a "selective default." Reflecting the sensitive nature of the debate within the ECB, Trichet's deputy Vitor Constancio was forced on Friday to retract comments made earlier in the day in which he said his boss was not ruling out an extension of Greek maturities.

In a clarification statement issued by the ECB, Constancio parroted the stance Trichet laid out at his Thursday news conference, saying that he excluded all concepts that were not purely voluntary. The ECB is concerned that tinkering with Greek debt may set off a chain reaction in financial markets that would stretch far beyond Greece and undermine the creditworthiness of other stressed euro zone sovereigns.

The international body that adjudicates on events that could trigger the payout of default insurance has said it would not typically regard a voluntary bond swap or a rollover of maturing debt as a "credit event."

However, all three major ratings agencies have said they would be likely to classify even an ostensibly voluntary debt swap as a "selective default," since it was hard to imagine a rational investor maintaining Greek exposure without coercion. Trichet's German colleague at the ECB, Juergen Stark, said he was personally in favor of private sector involvement but noted that feedback from the ratings agencies over the past weeks had changed the situation.

ECB To Compromise?
The ECB has warned it will reject Greek bonds as collateral in its liquidity operations, a step that would leave Greek banks stranded, if debt moves sparked a credit event. But many analysts doubt the central bank would take that risk.

Clemens Fuest, an academic adviser to the German finance ministry, said the ECB had backed down in past stand-offs in the debt crisis and was likely to compromise now. "The language is stark at the moment, but if we look back, the ECB has bought government bonds during this crisis to fight the crisis, so it is already a party in the crisis and it has deviated from the very strict and clear rules for normal situations," Fuest told Reuters Insider TV in an interview. "I think in the end the ECB will be ready to compromise."

France favors a less sweeping form of private sector involvement in which bondholders are asked to commit voluntarily to roll over their Greek bonds when they mature, sources familiar with government thinking say. French President Nicolas Sarkozy will hold talks with Merkel on the euro zone crisis next Friday in Berlin in what could be a decisive meeting between Europe's central powers a week before the EU summit.

Schaeuble acknowledged the ECB was opposed to his ideas for private sector involvement in a Greek solution, but said euro zone ministers had agreed to set up a working group to work on a solution that avoided negative market consequences.

In Athens, Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou defended a new austerity package from attacks in parliament, saying it was the only way the EU and IMF would rescue Greece from bankruptcy. "No prime minister of any country wants to go out with a beggar's tray and collect money from other countries ... I certainly don't, but I do it for Greece," Papandreou said.




Helping euro states vital for Germany, says Merkel
by Brian Rohan - Reuters

Helping indebted European countries get back on their feet is vital to Germany's economic health, Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday in a message aimed at the general public. The comments come a day after Germany's parliament approved a non-binding resolution supporting extra emergency loans to fellow euro zone member Greece, but only on the condition that bondholders be made to share the bailout burden.

Asked in a weekly podcast if the euro zone debt crisis could threaten Germany's economic recovery, Merkel said: "If we don't take action in a positive way, that could happen, but it is exactly what we want to prevent." "Therefore we should not simply allow the uncontrolled bankruptcy of a state -- instead we must see how we can increase the competitiveness of countries in difficulty and give them the chance to work off the debt," she added.

European Union leaders are due to finalise a new rescue package for Greece at a Brussels summit on June 23-24, which officials say will total 120 billion euros and ensure the country is funded through 2014. German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble urged parliament on Friday to back additional aid for Greece but said private creditor participation in a new package was "unavoidable" and that he favoured a bond swap that would push out Greek debt maturities by seven years.

In her podcast, Merkel said troubled members of the currency union must enact reforms, but warned that allowing one to go insolvent could trigger disastrous consequences for Germany. "We should not do anything that would endanger the global recovery and put Germany back in danger," Merkel said, adding that the bankruptcy of investment bank Lehman Brothers had triggered a major recession in 2009. "Such an event had not happened for decades and absolutely must be prevented," she said. The recession in Germany was its worst since World War II. (Reporting by




Greece pays a heavy price as eurozone strives to protect its reckless banks
by Heather Stewart - Observer

Further austerity by the Athens government will only serve to hide the catastrophic consequences of irresponsible lending

While Germany was locked in an embarrassing public spat with the European Central Bank last week over who should pay the price for a new Greek bailout, fresh evidence was emerging of the impact of the savage cuts Athens has already imposed on its increasingly restive citizens.

The number of people unemployed has shot up by 40% over the past 12 months; the jobless rate now stands above 16%. Among young people it's a devastating 42%, representing extraordinary human and social cost. Yet the government's latest plans envisage another four years of slash and burn, taking the deficit from 7.5% of GDP this year to 1% by 2015. It's extreme fiscal masochism, and it isn't going to work.

Growth is suffering: the economy expanded by a miserable 0.2% in the first quarter of 2011, official figures revealed. Over the past year, it has contracted by a total of 5.5%, and forecasters – including Greece's creditors, the IMF and the ECB – are expecting a further catastrophic decline of more than 3% over the coming 12 months.

Yet while Greece is swallowing its medicine, it's become increasingly clear – as many economists and investors have argued for months – that it's not just caught in a short-term cash crunch, but a solvency crisis. With its economy shrinking, Greece simply cannot afford to pay its debts. The past year of pain has had very little to do with putting Greece's finances on a sustainable footing, and everything to do with papering over the catastrophic losses of the eurozone banks that indulged in an irresponsible lending spree in the run-up to the credit crunch.

As the venerable Leigh Skene of Lombard Street Research put it last week: "Writing assets down to fair value and then recapitalising banks should be the first priority in restoring economic growth after a banking crisis. Sadly, Europe went in the opposite direction and tried to ensure that no bank, regardless of how insolvent [it was], defaulted on its liabilities."

We've been here before. In the first of Adam Curtis's brilliant series of documentaries, All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace, broadcast on BBC2 over the past month, he described how the IMF – with the backing of Washington – wrought havoc on the Asian economies in the late 1990s. After a credit boom, driven by a frenzy of lending from the rich world's banks, turned into a crash, the IMF oversaw a series of bailouts, often insisting on savage budget cuts and "structural reforms" as a quid pro quo, emboldened by the idea that unleashing market forces would, in the end, lead to stability.

In many cases, including Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand, the result instead was political and social chaos, but the west's banks, which had recklessly poured cash into the "Asian Tigers", didn't lose out. Even the IMF itself has since acknowledged that its prescriptions at the time made the problems worse. "While tough measures are needed to address deep economic problems, the conditions accompanying its programmes need to be more focused on the problems at hand, and it needs to be more conscious of the social impact of those programmes," it now says.

Yet the "rescue" of Greece, Portugal and Ireland – this time administered under the guise of European solidarity – followed precisely the same logic: private sector creditors must be protected; deficits must be tackled at a breakneck pace; no gain without pain.

Last week's intervention by Wolfgang Schäuble, the Germany finance minister, suggested that, in Berlin at least, reality is starting to dawn. Under pressure from domestic politicians, Germany is pressing for Greece's private-sector creditors, including Germany's own banks, to shoulder some of the burden of a fresh bailout through a "voluntary" debt swap, which would extend the lifetime of existing bonds by seven years. At the same time, Greece would step up its privatisation programme to raise short-term cash, and the "troika" of the IMF, the European commission and the ECB would find another €60bn (£53bn) or so.

Details are hazy, but such a "reprofiling" is just a default by another name, and the ratings agencies would be likely to see it as such. That would force banks holding Greek bonds, including the German banks, to write down their face value.

The ECB is vehemently opposed to the idea, partly because it is sitting on a pile of Greek bonds itself, and partly because it fears that a default, even one as widely anticipated as this, would create panic on a scale not seen since the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy in September 2008 – and we all know how that story ended.

The number-crunchers at consultancy Fathom reckon that a debt swap along the lines proposed by the Germans would mean a writedown of anything up to 36% on the value of Greek bonds. That would probably require eurozone governments, including the French and Germans, to recapitalise their banks, at huge political and economic cost, but Fathom's Erik Britton reckons that even a default on this scale will not be enough to put Greek public finances back on a sustainable footing. "It needs to be twice that," he says. "If they're going to do it, they might as well do it properly."

He suggests a 70% default will eventually become necessary and that Greece will inevitably be followed by Portugal and Ireland. The all-out market panic that could result might well drag in Spain, too.

In other words, by shifting the pain on to the hapless taxpayers of Greece in order to cushion the eurozone's banks from the consequences of their own actions, all that Europe's leaders have succeeded in doing is exposing a political schism at the heart of the eurozone project – and sowing the seeds of an almighty market panic.

Even if Germany and the ECB can somehow patch up their differences and cobble together a short-term rescue deal for Greece, they will rapidly have to turn their attention to Portugal, Ireland, and – perhaps some time next year – back to Greece. And if the economics look grim, the politics of the euro project look even worse. Skene is exactly right to say that Greece is "the canary in the coalmine".




Juncker: Greece Needs 'Soft' Debt Restructuring
by Bernd Radowitz - Wall Street Journal

Highly indebted Greece needs a "soft, voluntary restructuring" of its debt, said Jean-Claude Juncker, the head of the group of countries using the euro as a common currency, in a radio interview Saturday. At the same time, he lashed out at the U.S., calling their debt level "disastrous."

Backing proposals by German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble, Mr. Juncker told Inforadio Berlin Brandenburg that private lenders need to participate in a fresh aid program for Greece, but only on a voluntary basis. Also, any such move has to be made in a way that credit ratings agencies don't interpret as a credit default, he said. And it needs to be done without the "danger of infecting" other euro-zone members. The euro group president didn't explain what exactly such a voluntary, soft restructuring should look like, but he said there won't be a full restructuring of Greek debt.

Meanwhile, Michael Kemmer, head of Germany's BdB banking association, cautiously accepted the participation of private lenders in a rescheduling of Greek debt as proposed by Mr. Schäuble. But, in a radio interview Saturday to Deutschlandfunk broadcaster, he said such a move needs to be done in a voluntary way, so that credit rating agencies don't see it as a default and financial markets don't get unsettled. The BdB represents commercial banks such as Deutsche Bank AG and Commerzbank AG.

Mr. Juncker called for an agreement with the European Central Bank on the issue. The ECB so far has rejected any kind of restructuring, be it a "haircut" on the principal of Greek sovereign bonds, or just an involvement of private lenders in an extension of Greek debt maturities via a bond swap, as Mr. Schäuble has suggested. "We can't push through a private lender participation without and against the ECB," Mr. Juncker said.

In exchange for any fresh program, Greece needs to make sure it reaches its 2011 fiscal targets, Mr. Juncker added. "If Greek policies continue as they have in the first six months [of this year], then they won't reach the budget target," he said, adding that any additional aid would be linked to very strict conditions. The euro group head declined to give a possible amount of fresh aid, but said figures circulating in the media were right. Asked whether that could mean anything between €60 billion and €120 billion ($86 billion and $172 billion), Mr. Juncker said he doesn't believe that euro-zone countries will have to come up with such a sum.

Not withstanding the euro zone's problems, Mr. Juncker said that both the deficit and overall debt in the U.S. and Japanese economy are substantially higher than in Europe. "The debt level of the USA is disastrous," Mr. Juncker said. "The real problem is that no one can explain well why the euro zone is in the epicenter of a global financial challenge at a moment, at which the fundamental indicators of the euro zone are substantially better than those of the U.S. or Japanese economy."




French banks lead exodus of EU lenders from hardest-hit European economies
by Phillip Inman - Observer

European banks increase pressure on Greece and other struggling economies by refusing support for business deals

The crisis enveloping Greece, Ireland and Portugal appeared to deepen after figures showed EU banks were refusing to support business deals in the EU's hardest-hit economies. Figures from the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) show French, German and UK banks have embarked on a mass exodus from Greece, Portugal, Spain and Ireland, in what analysts see as an effort to bolster their balance sheets and conform to new rules designed to protect financial institutions from going bust. The move is expected to add to tensions in Brussels over how to prevent Greece defaulting on its loans because vital business contracts will cost more to insure.

French banks cut their exposure to Greece from $92bn (£57bn) to $65bn in the last three months of 2010. They also reduced their involvement in Ireland, Portugal and Spain, slicing their total exposure to the four hardest-hit economies by $112bn.

Richard Batty of Standard Life Investments said the reduction in credit derivatives issued by French banks was due to "the reduced risk appetite of the major banks, and in parallel, a shift to bolstering capital positions to reflect the requirements of the Basle III rules". He said stress tests planned by Brussels for the summer could lead to a further exodus as banks sought to insure only the safest risks.

Banks are exposed to different countries through credit derivatives that insure business transactions, in addition to direct loans to governments and businesses, which are also recorded by the BIS. Credit derivatives are typically sold to businesses wanting to insure transactions in the event that their suppliers or customers unexpectedly go bust. According to the BIS figures, a French firm wanting to sell goods and services in Greece or other peripheral EU countries is likely to be rebuffed by their own bank and be forced to look elsewhere for credit insurance.

French banks including BNP Paribas, Crédit Agricole and Société Générale are understood to have withdrawn from the Greek market to avoid the effects of Athens defaulting on its debts.
British and German banks have also reduced their exposure, though by a much smaller amount. The figures are separate from previously disclosed numbers that show France remains the biggest lender to the Athens administration and businesses in Greece.

France has previously downplayed the effect of a Greek default. France's finance minister Christine Lagarde, who is currently campaigning to be head of the International Monetary Fund, has insisted the French banking sector remains robust and able to withstand further financial shocks.

However, she and her German counterpart, Wolfgang Schäuble, have been blamed for blocking a restructuring of Greek debt to maintain the solvency of their own banks. Last week Schäuble reversed Berlin's previous opposition and put forward a restructuring plan that involved Greece's major private sector lenders, including banks. But he is understood to have met stiff opposition from Paris.

German and French banks held over two-thirds of the Greek government bonds at the end of last year, accounting for 70% of the $54.2bn owned by banks from 24 countries that report to the BIS. French banks have a bigger overall exposure than any other country, mainly due to loans to the private sector. French banks had almost $40bn in loans to Greek companies and households, more than four times the exposure of German lenders, the BIS data show. International loans to Greece stood at $161bn at the end of December, down $75bn from a year before.

BNP, which has almost $3 trillion of assets, refused to disclose how much it had reduced its exposure. A spokesman played down its involvement in Greece, Ireland or Portugal, saying that it had no retail operations in those countries. Batty said: "The debate regarding the form of support for some of the southern peripheral economies hides the fact that achieving the appropriate economic adjustments remains highly problematic at present. This underlines our investment stance of not participating in these smaller bond markets."




Trichet Escalates Greece Clash as ECB Puts Onus on Governments for Rescue
by Rainer Buergin and Gabi Thesing - Bloomberg)

Germany stepped up demands that investors share the cost of a second Greek rescue after Jean- Claude Trichet rejected direct involvement by the European Central Bank.

"We have to insist on the participation of the private sector," German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told lawmakers in Berlin [Friday], ignoring warnings from credit-rating firms that his proposal to extend Greek debt maturities by seven years would be deemed a default. A working group set up this week is charged with indentifying "a good solution for the involvement of the private sector that can and has to be supported by the European Central Bank," he said.

As politicians try to find a plan by June 24 that would share the cost of a new rescue with bondholders, Trichet yesterday ruled out the Frankfurt-based ECB setting an example with its own assets. While the bank has said it could accept a plan in which investors voluntarily agree to buy Greek bonds to replace maturing debt, President Trichet said the ECB has no intention of rolling over its own Greek holdings.

Greek, Irish and Spanish benchmark bonds slumped after Schaeuble’s speech. Portugal’s 10-year bond yield rose to a record 10.45 percent before settling up 13 basis points at 10.42 percent as of 12:17 p.m. in London. Greece’s 10-year yield rose 12 basis points to 16.78 percent. The euro declined 0.52 percent to $1.4452 as of 3:17 p.m. in Berlin.

Enormous Mistake
Sustained ECB resistance could leave politicians facing the prospect of asking their taxpayers to finance a Greek budget shortfall that may amount to 90 billion euros ($130 billion) through 2014. Trichet also warned against Schaeuble’s approach, saying any solution forcing private-sector involvement amounts to a "credit event" and would be an "enormous mistake."

"Trichet is really digging his heels in now," said Tobias Blattner, an economist at Daiwa Capital Markets Europe in London who worked at the ECB until April. "The ECB has already shouldered the main burden of the crisis. These are the same politicians that dithered last year and got the ECB to pick up the pieces."

The cost of insuring against default on government debt sold by Greece surged to a record yesterday, according to traders of credit-default swaps. Contracts on Greece soared 30 basis points to 1,522, according to CMA. The ECB started buying the bonds of distressed governments in May last year to help ensure the transmission of its monetary policy in money and credit markets.

Stark, Constancio
ECB officials reinforced their resistance today to taking additional measures to stem the sovereign debt crisis, saying that it is again up to politicians and governments to respond. "The burden is not on us," Vice President Vitor Constancio said in Frankfurt today. "It wasn’t the ECB that asked for private-sector involvement."

Executive Board member Juergen Stark called on governments to end their "fruitless discussion" about debt restructuring, which is unlikely to lead to "a substantial involvement of the private sector." "With a strong commitment from Greek authorities, I think there’s no need for private-sector involvement," Stark told reporters in Frankfurt today. "The ECB is not against involvement of the private sector but conditions have to be clear: The involvement of the private sector has to be purely voluntary and not create a default."

ECB Purchases
The central bank has so far purchased 75 billion euros worth of assets in the secondary market under its Securities Market Program, which it stresses is temporary and not designed to finance governments. It may have purchased about 40 billion euros of Greek government bonds, Barclays Capital estimates. It is also financing the banking systems of Greece, Portugal and Ireland, which have together received bailouts totaling 256 billion euros, by continuing to lend them unlimited amounts of money at its benchmark rate.

While the ECB is prevented by its founding treaty from buying bonds on the primary market, it "could be instrumental in convincing private bondholders to roll over by re-launching its SMP program on the secondary market," said Gilles Moec, an economist at Deutsche Bank AG in London. Trichet’s comments are a "further confirmation that the Europeans are still far from a fully fledged solution," he said.

'Skeptical Voices'
Schaeuble, in a June 6 letter to Trichet and fellow euro finance ministers, called for Greek bondholders to extend the maturities of their debt by seven years to give Greece more time to cut its debt and budget deficit. "I have proposed a fair distribution of risks between taxpayers and private creditors for the phase of gaining time," Schaeuble said today. "We’re taking skeptical voices and warnings from the European Central Bank on the involvement of the private sector seriously."

Governments aim to reach agreement on a new aid package by a European Union summit on June 23-24. The IMF has threatened to withhold its share of what remains of Greece’s original 110 billion-euro bailout until governments guarantee that the country’s financing needs for the next 12 months are covered. The IMF was due to turn over 3.3 billion euros this month.

European governments and the IMF would lend as much as an extra 45 billion euros to Greece under a new bailout plan that also includes roughly 30 billion euros in asset-sale proceeds and about 30 billion euros in rollovers by creditors, two people with direct knowledge of the talks said yesterday. While a debt rollover has been gaining support among EU officials, credit analysts at Moody’s Investors Service, Standard & Poor’s and Fitch Ratings have indicated that pressure on private investors to participate would prompt a default rating on Greek debt.

"We exclude all elements which are not voluntary," Trichet said. Asked if the ECB would roll over its own holdings of Greek government bonds if private investors agreed to do so, Trichet said: "It is certainly not our intention."




Politicians 'Are Lying Through Their Teeth' on Greek Aid
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Germany is prepared to help Greece, but only if private creditors are involved in any new bailout plan. The European Central Bank, however, remains opposed to any kind of debt restructuring. German commentators say the ECB, having bought billions in Greek bonds, is too deeply involved to be independent.

The European Central Bank may not think much of the German government's plans to save Greece from its debt crisis, but at least German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble has found support at home. On Friday, the German parliament, the Bundestag, voted in favor of a motion that clears the way for more aid for Athens.


The motion was proposed by the coalition parties -- the conservative Christian Democratic Union, its Bavarian sister party the Christian Social Union and the business-friendly Free Democratic Party -- and ties support for a new bailout to certain conditions. Those include the involvement of private creditors in a new rescue effort and greater privatization and austerity efforts on the part of the Greeks. The non-binding motion is designed to provide Berlin with guidelines for upcoming negotiations with Germany's European partners over a new bailout package for Greece.

It is unclear, however, if Berlin will be able to push through its plan to make private creditors share the pain, something that the European Central Bank is resisting. On Thursday, ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet said he opposed any involvement of the private sector that was not "purely voluntary." But on Friday his deputy Vitor Constancio said there might be room for compromise, explaining that Trichet was keen to avoid any approach that would trigger a so-called "credit event," which would have serious consequences for investors. Some observers argue that the ECB is opposed to a restructuring because it itself now holds so much Greek debt.

'Serious Consequences'
In a government statement on Friday morning ahead of the vote, Finance Minister Schäuble warned of the consequences of a Greek default. "The situation in Greece, and hence in Europe, is serious," he said. He insisted on the importance of securing the next round of aid payments for Greece, worth €12 billion ($17.4 billion), which is due at the start of July. "If this tranche is not paid out, there is an acute danger of a Greek insolvency, with serious consequences for the stability of the whole euro zone," he said.

That tranche is in jeopardy, however. The report on Greece's progress prepared by the "troika" of the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund, which was obtained by SPIEGEL ONLINE earlier this week, revealed that a Greek insolvency within the coming 12 months could not be ruled out. That means that the IMF is unable to transfer its share of the next tranche of aid to Greece, making a new EU bailout necessary if Greece is to avoid default.

On Friday, Schäuble also repeated his proposal, made in a letter sent to Germany's euro-zone partners earlier this week, that creditor banks swap old Greek government bonds for new ones with maturities that are seven years longer.

In Brussels, EU officials believe that Greece's funding needs have risen to an estimated €120 billion, according to Reuters. A new aid package is expected to be created comprising some €90 billion in EU-IMF bailout funds, including the participation of private investors. The remaining €30 billion is intended to come through the privatization of Greek government-owned assets. The decision over the second aid package may be considered as soon as the next summit of EU leaders on June 24.

German commentators on Friday take a look at the latest efforts to save Greece, with a focus on the ECB's opposition to debt restructuring.

The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes:
"This time around, Schäuble seems to have at least won the support of Chancellor Angela Merkel for his idea of a 'soft' debt restructuring involving private creditors. But the whole thing reeks of internal political maneuvering designed to keep the growing number of skeptics in the coalition ranks in line. It's hardly surprising that the financial markets remain unsure and have no confidence in the rescue efforts. Instead of being the motor of European integration, the single currency now looks more like a bomb ticking away within the EU."

"Amid the sea of uncertainty, only one thing is certain: The EU is at a crossroads. It has become clear that the economic and monetary union does not have the tools at its disposal to act quickly and decisively in crisis situations. The crisis also shows just how far the financial and economic interdependence of the EU's member states has developed in recent decades. Countries are happy to receive the advantages of this integration, such as free movement of labor, development funds from the Brussels pot or low interest rates on the capital markets, even for highly indebted countries. But they also like to circumvent those things that they should accept in return, such as fiscal discipline and tougher competition. Only now has it become clear to everyone that you cannot simply pull threads out of the fabric of European integration without risking tearing the entire thing apart."

The Financial Times Deutschland writes:
"When it comes to the construction of the next bailout for Greece, all the stakeholders are lying through their teeth to such a degree that one hardly knows who one should point the finger at first. The thing that unites them is that none of them want a solution that will really involve private creditors, irrespective of whether you want to call that a default, rollover or debt restructuring."

"The decision in favor of another rescue package is based more on political will than on a sober analysis of the data. To their shame, the troika did not even try to find out whether the conditions that they had previously set for help have been fulfilled. In theory, an analysis should provide information about whether Greece has any chance of getting back on its feet in the medium term with the help of loans. The fact that the troika has so far avoided carrying out that analysis can only mean one thing: The rescuers do not want to know the answer, because they fear the consequences of an inconvenient outcome."

The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes:
"Under Jean-Claude Trichet, the ECB purchased Greek sovereign bonds on a large scale, which are now rapidly losing value. It would have been better off leaving this rescue effort to national governments, because it has now made the ECB into a stakeholder with its own interests, just like the Greek government or Deutsche Bank." "Faced with the question of whether a debt restructuring for Greece will help the country get out of its crisis, or if it will unleash a firestorm across Europe, ordinary people need the help of an independent opinion, because governments and commercial banks are pursuing their own interests. But the ECB is no longer independent. As one of Athens' major creditors, a haircut on Greek debt would cost it a lot of money. As a result, its warning about a debt restructuring are not credible."

The business daily Handelsblatt writes:
"The ECB should not support any poorly prepared restructuring measures for Greece, which would ultimately involve it preventing the collapse of the financial system by vastly overstretching its own rules. Instead, it should help to lay the groundwork for a sound debt restructuring." "It is all a question of credibility. Last year, the ECB received a thorough verbal beating when it -- quite correctly -- purchased the bonds of ailing euro-zone members to prevent a collapse of the common currency. If it were to buy bonds on an even larger scale, the result would be a storm of indignation and criticism."

"But credibility has many facets. The ECB is now the most important economic institution in Europe. … In the middle of a severe crisis in the euro zone, the ECB cannot simply duck its responsibilities. … It would be a good idea if the ECB were to vigorously encourage governments to create the necessary conditions for a restructuring of Greek debt. And that mainly means coming up with a solution for saving the Greek banking system, conducting meaningful stress tests to show that other European banks could deal with a debt restructuring, and choosing a form of debt relief that will allow Greece to make a new start and later return to the capital markets."

The left-leaning Die Tageszeitung writes:
"The euro was a bold historical experiment. Never before had 17 independent states adopted a common currency. The next two years will show whether the euro will survive. … The investors are optimistic. Despite the crisis, the euro was trading Thursday at 1.46 against the dollar -- almost a record high. Investors apparently believe that the US is more likely to become a problem case than the euro zone."

"The investors' optimism shows that they are not particularly concerned with what voters (who oppose a bailout for Greece) think. They are depending on politicians and the European Central Bank to save the euro. Investors are taking it for granted that Greece will somehow be saved. This is a rational position. At the end of the day, the ECB would not exist without the euro, so it can be assumed that the central bank will do everything possible to save the single currency. As the Austrian economist Stephan Schulmeister told this newspaper back in January, institutions' self-preservation instincts should not be underestimated."




Irish Minister Supports Germany's Debt Plan for Greece
by Eamon Quinn - Wall Street Journal

Ireland supports "behind the scenes" efforts by the German government that is working toward some sort of soft restructuring of Greek debts, a senior Irish government minister said Saturday.
Pat Rabitte, minister for communications in the new coalition that came to power in March, said that the views of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble in a leaked letter apparently favoring private sector involvement in restructuring Greece's debts "is a significant statement" reflecting "patient work behind the scenes."

And he welcomed comments Saturday by Jean-Claude Juncker, head of the group of countries using the euro as a common currency, that indebted Greece needed a soft and voluntary restructuring of its debts. "We also had the letter leaked from Schäuble, the minister for finance in Germany, about the wider issue of the euro zone," Mr. Rabbitte told Irish broadcaster RTE Radio. "We are in a euro-zone difficulty and Schäuble's letter seems to indicate to me, to any extent, that the Germans want to see that addressed—that it is in the interest of their own economy."

Mr. Rabbitte—a former leader of the Labour Party that's now the junior partner in the new government—said Mr. Schäuble's letter "may" offer opportunities for Ireland to deal with its own debt crisis. But he urged the European Central Bank to soften its "entrenched" views on the debt crisis across the countries sharing the euro single currency. "The stance of the ECB has been very entrenched and very, very difficult from the point of view from the entire threat to the euro," Mr. Rabbitte said. "The European Central Bank has to be more concerned about more than inflation—but the patient work going on behind the scenes looks like there is some way to go yet."

He also said he remained confident that Ireland would in time negotiate a lower interest rate on the near-6% interest rate it's paying for a €67.5 billion ($97 billion) bailout deal struck with the European Union and International Monetary Fund last November. Comments by Prime Minister Enda Kenny to the Irish parliament Wednesday saying it is "unfair" certain European Union countries are blocking his new government's bid to secure a better deal from its bailout lenders were widely interpreted as him coming close to acknowledging his coalition's key election pledge is being overtaken by fast moving events in the euro debt crisis.

Mr. Kenny's new coalition government, which swept to power in March, has faced opposition from France in particular, which wants Ireland to increase its competitive 12.5% corporation tax rate in return for a lower rate on its bailout loans. Mr. Rabbitte confirmed Saturday that any interest-rate reduction would apply only to the €47 billion of the €67 billion bailout Ireland is borrowing from various EU sources.

Amid its deep banking crisis, Ireland was forced to turn to a troika of lenders—the EU, IMF and ECB—when markets last year refused to lend the government and the Irish banks more money.




A defining moment for Greek debt
by Richard Milne and David Oakley - Financial Times

What is the difference between a rollover, reprofiling and restructuring? Or between a ratings default and a credit event? The unseemly public discussion this week on the way forward in the eurozone debt crisis has seemed like a bad capital markets joke. Only for investors it is not funny.

"We are getting to the point where the whole game is too silly," Willem Buiter, Citi’s chief economist, says of the different words used to mean essentially the same thing: a restructuring of Greece’s debt. Nick Gartside, international chief investment officer at JPMorgan Asset Management, adds: "From a market perspective these public debates are not helpful. Markets like certainty. Having a battle waged in public doesn’t give confidence to markets."

The latest eurozone row has principally pitted Germany against the European Central Bank and France. Wolfgang Schäuble, finance minister in Berlin, has called for a "quantified and substantial contribution" from bondholders in Greece in return for a fresh international bail-out. The ECB on the other hand wants to avoid a "credit event" or a decision by rating agencies that Greece is in default. It has threatened to stop accepting Greek collateral if either of those events happen, which would almost certainly lead to the collapse of the Greek banking system.

The danger, say investors, is that semantics are now driving the eurozone policy response. Reprofiling, a word most investors had never heard before this year, has replaced restructuring as the preferred way of describing maturity extensions for bonds. Rollovers have also started to be discussed in recent weeks in which investors would voluntarily commit to invest in new debt once their existing bonds mature.

All sides in the policy debate appear agreed that whatever happens in Greece, it should not be enough to trigger CDS contracts, credit default swaps that offer protection for investors in the event of a default. But avoiding a default under the definitions used by credit rating agencies such as Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s will be much more difficult. Both have said that it is hard to see any Greek restructuring being seen as voluntary so a default rating is likely whatever wording is used by policymakers.

"It is risky as the various terms – reprofiling, restructuring, soft restructuring, rollover, etc – that are being thrown around in policy circles are increasingly less well defined and, in some cases, are becoming interchangeable. Precision is really important here, especially given the unusual amount of public bickering that we are seeing among European policymakers," says Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive of Pimco, which runs the world’s largest bond fund.

Toby Nangle, director of multi-assets at Baring Asset Management, goes further, warning that restructuring without triggering CDS could kill the nascent but growing sovereign CDS market: "If a credit event is not triggered, this reveals sovereign CDS protection as worthless."

The consequences could be significant. This could lead to mass selling of bonds from the so-called peripheral eurozone countries, raising their borrowing costs, as investors worry that their supposed insurance policy is suspect. "How do I short Greece, or Italy for that matter? I can buy their CDS. If they [CDS] are in effect worthless, the other way to short is to sell the bonds of these countries," says a trader at a large US investment bank.

Investors are even more apoplectic about the ECB’s stance on Greek collateral. Mr Nangle calls it "high-stakes chicken". Mr Buiter adds: "If the ECB is going to be as irresponsible as they say they will be, the only sensible response is to have a hard restructuring immediately. A voluntary restructuring is painful and pointless if the ECB says: ‘we won’t repo your bonds’. That would add a banking crisis on top of a sovereign crisis. Basically it says to Greece: please leave the eurozone."

The fear for many investors is that the various battles between policymakers could lead to increased volatility and even spark the dreaded contagion that drags countries such as Spain and Italy back into the crisis. Mr Gartside says: "There will be a lot of unintended consequences to how these public debates are resolved in the future. There is a question mark in markets: does it spread further? You could get that cascade effect."

That volatility has shown up this week in the wild movements among Greek bonds. Two-year Greek yields have moved by more than one percentage point in three of the past six sessions. Greek CDS hit a fresh record on Friday of 1,545 basis points, meaning it costs €1.545m annually to insure €10m of Greek bonds.

For investors, policymakers’ word games might cause headaches. But their response to these games is fairly straightforward: avoid peripheral bonds. Mr Nangle sums up the situation for many by saying: "It looks quite a mess. It is difficult to gauge what will happen, which means it could be wise to stay out of the eurozone peripheral markets altogether."




A deepened disillusion with Germany
by Quentin Peel - Financial Times

On Tuesday, on a balmy evening in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, Angela Merkel looked happier and more relaxed than she has done for weeks. No wonder. The German chancellor was sitting down to a state dinner in her honour, having just been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest US civilian award, by Barack Obama. She was also a long way from Germany – and the European Union – where her reputation has lately taken a battering.

Europe’s most powerful leader, presiding over the continent’s biggest and strongest economy, is under pressure on the home front as seldom before. Regardless of her international reputation, Ms Merkel’s centre-right coalition government is on the defensive. It has slid badly in the polls and lost a string of local elections, arousing speculation that it may not hold together until the next federal election in 2013. "If all were fair in the world – and especially in Germany – then Angela Merkel would be as beloved at home as she is honoured abroad," Tagesspiegel, a Berlin daily, wrote on Friday. "But the opposite is true."

Yet it is not just at home that her halo is slipping. On a series of critical issues, from the financial crisis in the eurozone to nuclear energy, the German leader is facing charges from her European partners that she is pursuing an introspective national agenda at the expense of EU solidarity.

In Nato, where Germany is normally regarded as the most loyal of allies, Ms Merkel’s decision not to join in military action against Muammer Gaddafi in Libya has been greeted with dismay. Berlin’s abstention in the UN Security Council vote to impose a no-fly zone over Libya revived fears of Germany reverting to a semi-neutral, stay-at-home strategy that could undermine the alliance just when it is struggling to prove itself more relevant and effective.

Even good moments are short-lived. The chancellor had no time to relax and savour Mr Obama’s hospitality after her Apfelstrudel on Tuesday. By 10.30pm she was already mounting the steps of her aircraft to fly home and face a new round of political infighting in Berlin. Within three hours of landing, she was in the committee rooms of the German parliament, forced to beg for support from both her own rebellious Christian Democrats and the even more truculent liberal Free Democrats – minority partners in her coalition – for a new package of financial assistance for Greece.

On Thursday, she was back in the debating chamber of the Bundestag to deliver a formal government statement to a rowdy house, explaining the U-turn in government energy policy under which all nuclear power stations will close by 2022. Once more, she was forced to appeal for understanding from her own supporters rather than from the opposition centre-left Social Democrats and environmentalist Greens. As if two internal wars were not enough, she has had to reassure German citizens and defend her government’s handling of a food poisoning outbreak that has brought at least 30 deaths and infected more than 2,000 with E. coli bacteria.

Spain’s government is furious with Germany after a Hamburg laboratory wrongly identified Spanish cucumbers as the cause of the outbreak. Sales of cucumbers, lettuce and tomatoes have slumped as German consumers were warned not to eat them. Even demand for seasonal strawberries has been hit in a consumer panic. It has all fuelled the perception across the EU that Germany is locked in a world of its own and has lost its European vocation.

That charge is fiercely dismissed by Berlin. In a passionate speech to the Bundestag on Friday, Wolfgang Schäuble, finance minister, reminded lawmakers that Germany owed its peace, prosperity and unification to the EU. Europe’s strongest economy, he declared, had a responsibility to take the leading role in tackling the eurozone upheavals triggered by the debt crisis in Greece. Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the SPD’s parliamentary leader and former foreign minister, countered that the government had failed to spread that message among voters and in the ranks of its own supporters. Ms Merkel spent too much time talking about the costs of eurozone stability and too little spelling out the benefits, he said.

Still, many observers admit that Germany has deep-seated national attitudes influencing its policies that have become more apparent since west and east were unified in 1990. "There is a German inclination to try to find ways of avoiding all risks," says Professor Renate Köcher of the Allensbach polling institute. "That is certainly a factor in the nuclear debate. There is a connection to the European debate, too." This risk aversion is, she says, central to understanding Berlin’s actions. "It is less a conscious decision to go it alone but rather an inclination to say: ‘If we go it alone, we must be aware of the consequences’."

Take the eurozone crisis. From the moment the Greek drama developed in late 2009, German politicians have insisted that Athens’ woes must not become a reason to turn the EU into a "transfer union" where the fiscally prudent nations of the north constantly bail out a spendthrift south. That has been a German concern ever since Margaret Thatcher secured a British budget rebate as prime minister in the 1980s that left other net contributors, such as Germany and the Netherlands, to pick up the bill.

But the fear that German "transfers" might become endemic was stoked by the country’s own domestic experience after 1990, when the wealthy western states had to make massive transfers to the former communist states in the east. "We know how bad it is in Germany to have this institutionalised bail-out system," says Christian Deubner, an economist. "It has corrupted our own [indebted] federal states."

German economists and politicians have argued since early in the Greek crisis that any further rescue must involve private creditors as well as taxpayers’ money. "It fits with the German idea of fair burden-sharing," says Andreas Busch, politics professor at Göttingen university. "There is not a very rational debate about actual costs. If Greece defaults it would be massively costly to Germany. But fairness means we must split the costs."

The demand has set Berlin against both the European Central Bank and the French government. Frankfurt and Paris say that requiring private creditors – even voluntarily – to extend the maturity of their bonds and loans may precipitate the default it is supposed to avoid.

On Friday, the Bundestag decided that it would back a new deal only if private creditors made an "adequate contribution". But if Berlin and the ECB cannot agree on a compromise, the rescue package could founder. The nuclear debate also illustrates the deep risk aversion – as well as Ms Merkel’s political problems. Last year she decided to extend the working life of Germany’s 17 nuclear power stations – reversing a deal done 10 years ago between an SPD-Green government and energy producers for an exit by 2021. "The chancellor willingly broke the consensus on quitting nuclear energy, to win political mileage," says Prof Busch. "It spectacularly backfired after the Japanese earthquake. To her credit, she immediately realised she had to go back to square one."

Ms Merkel’s U-turn "reflects the weak state of the government", says Prof Köcher. "Merkel has a very clear focus on where she has support and where she has none. On nuclear energy, there was very little room for manoeuvre."

Even so, no attempt was made to talk to EU partners. The French government fears Berlin’s move may stir up a whole new debate about France’s far greater dependence on nuclear energy; the Czech Republic and Poland worry that Germany’s nuclear cuts will disrupt their own power supplies. That cuts little ice in Berlin. "Of course it’s important that we have a European discussion," says Norbert Röttgen, environment minister. "But first there is a German discussion we must answer."

The feeling in Berlin is that Germany is not necessarily out of step with its partners but simply ahead of the game. On energy, it is forcing the pace of a massive switch to renewable sources – and Mr Röttgen is convinced it will make Germany more and not less competitive in the global market. On Greece, officials say, Germany was roundly criticised for demanding more drastic austerity measures from Athens before any rescue was organised. Yet now those measures are seen to have been the minimum necessary.

But such wisdom after the event does not seem to help Ms Merkel. Tagesspiegel points out that on all her big policy decisions – nuclear energy, Greece and Libya – she is very close to what German voters also want. She is profoundly risk-averse herself. It is one reason why she is still relatively popular, although her ratings have slipped under 50 per cent. Yet by opting for safety – on nuclear power as on cucumbers – the end result is to make Germany’s voters feel less and not more secure. That is Ms Merkel’s dilemma.




Greek debt crisis stirs bank fears
by Brooke Masters - Financial Times

Concern is growing among regulators that efforts to minimise the knock-on effects of a Greek government default would undercut the global drive to make banks safer by forcing them to hold more capital. The German government and the European Central Bank are at loggerheads over how to involve private-sector holders of Greek bonds in a second bail-out of Greece.

Berlin wants a "soft restructuring" or extension of bond maturities, which ratings agencies and investors regard as a default. Some banking regulators suspect the German government is pushing for a form of technical Greek default but wants to shield its own banks – and those in the rest of the eurozone – from a big part of the impact by exploiting loopholes in banking regulation.

Under current rules, most banks do not have to hold capital against sovereign bond stocks because they are considered to be very safe. A default would normally trigger a change in risk-weighting and prompt higher capital charges. But some European Union negotiators are looking for a way around that rule, because they are worried about the potential impact on banks that are already struggling to meet the new, tougher "Basel III" capital requirements.

They have identified two possible loopholes in the global rules and the European law that implements them in the 27-member bloc. One gives regulators the authority to provide guidance on what constitutes a default, and another defines a default as a failure to make payments for 90 days or more.

In theory, EU regulators could use either to say a restructuring did not count as a default for purposes of regulatory capital. Some negotiators are talking of a "temporary default" of less than 90 days already. "Thus a properly structured reprofiling could leave bank regulatory capital levels unaffected [and] an ‘enterprising’ regulator could mitigate the impact even of a payment default," said a regulation expert.

That possibility has appeal because it would reduce disruption in the broader market. But it has also raised hackles among some members of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision who have spent the past three years fighting for higher capital requirements. Those rules, which tighten the definition of capital, effectively require all banks to hold top quality "core tier one capital" equal to 7 per cent of their assets, adjusted for risk.

They are particularly irked that French and German banks, whose regulators generally sought to slow down and weaken the new standards, would be among the main beneficiaries of the loophole. The topic is expected to come up at the Basel committee meeting this month, as part of a larger agenda item on how the rules are being applied across the world.




Eurozone periphery bond trading volumes at new lows
by David Oakley and Andrew Ward

Trading volumes in eurozone government bonds issued by Greece, Ireland and Portugal have fallen to record lows as disagreements over another international bail-out for Greece unsettle investors and revive fears of a default. The volume traded in Greek, Irish and Portuguese sovereign debt fell to €1.1bn in May, a sixfold drop from November and the lowest level since 2001, when data were first collected, says Tradeweb, the electronic trading platform.

Even eurozone pension funds and insurance groups, which have until now traded these bonds, have stuck to the sidelines recently because of the uncertainty, say fund managers. However, Norway’s $570bn sovereign wealth fund is "very positive" about the long-term outlook for Europe, despite deciding to shift more of its assets into emerging markets.

Yngve Slyngstad, chief executive of Norges Bank Investment Management, which has responsibility for investing Norway’s North Sea oil money, said the eurozone debt crisis had created a catalyst for economic reform. "The changes going on in Europe at the moment may actually be positive for the private sector," he told the Financial Times, arguing that companies stand to benefit from "restructuring [and] maybe some narrowing of the public sector".

However, he acknowledged the "enormous challenge" facing eurozone policymakers and voiced concern over the potential repercussions of a possible restructuring of Greek debt. Norway’s so-called oil fund is one of the world’s biggest sovereign wealth funds and Europe’s biggest equity investor, owning about 2 per cent of all European stocks.

Yields on Portuguese 10-year bonds, which move inversely to prices, and Greek credit default swaps, a form of insurance against debt default, rose to fresh highs on Friday. The biggest concern for investors is that Greece will be downgraded to default by rating agencies, which could in turn trigger a round of forced selling as many funds are not allowed to hold defaulted bonds. This could lead to contagion and increase the threat of defaults in Ireland and Portugal, too.

Rating agencies have warned Greece may be downgraded as a new international rescue package for Athens, expected to be decided over the next two weeks, is likely to involve private creditors and changes to the terms of bond agreements. Andrew Balls, head of European rates at Pimco, said: "It is very difficult to assess what the recovery value would be for Greek government bonds in the event of default. The recovery value could be very low indeed."




Ireland Seizes $7 Billion From Its Pension Fund To Boost Employment
by Hugh O'Connell - Thejournal.ie

The Irish government will use the last €5 billion in the National Pensions Reserve Fund (NPRF) to help create employment although it will need approval from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and Europe before doing so. The Sunday Times reports today that the money will be used by the government to create as many as 80,000 jobs in Ireland. The paper cites government sources in reporting that the use of the money would be seen as more viable then the proposed sale of semi-state assets in the current weak market.

One source says that the view of the troika of IMF, the European Union and the European Central Bank is that if you have money it should be spent rather than drawing on outside funding or money from selling off assets at the wrong-time. The NPRF was launched ten-years-ago by the then Minister for Finance Charlie McCreevy.

Its purpose was to build up assets which would part-finance the cost to the exchequer of social welfare and public service pensions from 2025 onward. A total of €17.5 billion of it is being used as part of the €85 billion EU/IMF bailout that was agreed last November with €10 billion of that being used to recapitalise the banking sector in Ireland.




California Republicans Block Brown’s Deficit Plan
by Michael B. Marois - Bloomberg

California’s Senate Republicans blocked Governor Jerry Brown’s plan to erase a $10 billion deficit as closed-door talks remain snagged on his demand for higher taxes as a deadline to pass a budget looms.

Republicans oppose the governor’s proposal because it would extend tax and fee increases set to end June 30. The so-called bridge tax would preserve the revenue measures pending the outcome of a voter referendum, planned for September or later, to keep them for five years. Republicans said the extensions would harm California’s economy. Brown said he doesn’t want to raise taxes without voter support.

"The Democrats have moved the goal post," Senator Bob Huff, the Budget Committee’s Republican vice chairman, said in a telephone interview. "Now they are saying they need the taxes and then they will let the voters decide. But if the voters say ‘no,’ they still get stuck with another nine months of taxes."

While the defeat didn’t surprise party leaders, California faces a cash shortage next month if a workable budget isn’t passed by the July 1 start of fiscal 2012. The key to getting a spending plan through the Legislature, where Democrats lack the two-thirds majority needed to raise taxes, may hinge on finding a compromise agreement that enough Republicans will support. "There are no Republican votes for the taxes," Huff said. The lawmaker from suburban Diamond Bar near Los Angeles said that Brown’s bridge tax wouldn’t pass muster with voters.

Narrower Deficit
Brown, 73, took office in January on a pledge to fix the fiscal malfunctions that have left California with an A- credit rating from Standard & Poor’s, its lowest for any state. He began the year facing a $26 billion deficit through June 2012. Since then, spending cuts passed in March and better-than- projected revenue have narrowed the gap to $10 billion. Also weighing on negotiations is a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month requiring the state to ease prison overcrowding. Brown says his plan is the best way to avoid putting thousands of inmates on the street.

Democrats are four votes short of the two-thirds margin needed under California law to raise taxes, lacking two votes in the Senate and two in the Assembly. While Democrats were able to pass 10 of the 16 bills that are part of the budget package, the linchpin of the plan, the tax extension, was defeated in a 22-15 vote. They left that measure open for reconsideration. That means they could vote again on the bill, possibly as soon as tomorrow.

Difficult Choices
"If there was a pain-free choice to balance the budget, we would have made it months ago," Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, a Sacramento Democrat, said today. In response to the defeat, Senate Democrats took up and passed a bill that would let local governments ask voters to increase taxes on goods and services currently taxed only by the state. Those items include income, retail sales, vehicle registrations, cigarettes and alcohol.

"If this bill is implemented, you better buy some U-Haul stock because businesses are going to be packing up and leaving this state en masse," said Republican Senator Tony Strickland of Moorpark. Controller John Chiang, a Democrat, has repeatedly warned Brown and lawmakers that California may run out of money if there’s no budget in place by July 1, forcing the state to issue IOUs, as it did in 2009. That’s because the state likely won’t be able to go to Wall Street for short-term cash borrowing until it has a spending plan that accounts for how it will be repaid.

Turning to IOUs
"Without some link of the tax extension to an election, we have deep concerns about our ability to go out to the private market" to cover short-term needs, said Michael Cohen, Brown’s deputy budget director. "Without that ability, then you end up back in the situation with payment deferrals and IOUs."

The governor’s plan relies on retaining a 1 percentage- point boost in the retail-sales levy, to 8.25 percent, and a 0.5 percentage-point increase in vehicle registration fees to 1.15 percent of value. It also seeks to extend a reduction of the annual child tax credit to $99 from $309. All were put in place temporarily in 2009 and are set to expire by July 1.

Republicans, who initially opposed a statewide referendum on the taxes, have indicated they would be willing to allow a vote after polls showed voters would reject the extensions. The Legislature’s minority party wants lawmakers to pass a balanced budget now, without prolonging the revenue measures, and give voters the chance to reinstate the tax increases later.

Weak Voter Support
"There’s no polling that shows this is going to pass," Huff said. "That’s why they want this bridge tax for a year." "That’s not a bridge, that’s a budget year," he said.

A poll released June 2 said more than two-thirds of voters surveyed want a chance to cast a ballot on Brown’s plan, though most would reject the tax extensions. The Public Policy Institute of California said only 46 percent supported prolonging the levies and fees. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.3 percentage points.

In November, voters narrowed the legislative margin needed to pass a budget to a simple majority from two-thirds. The same measure also strips lawmakers of salary and per-diem pay for every day they’re late with the spending plan. Under the new rules, if a deal isn’t reached, a simple majority of lawmakers may approve a budget that doesn’t raise taxes even if it cuts spending and provides for accounting maneuvers and internal borrowing.

No 'Gimmicks'
Brown has said he doesn’t want lawmakers to send him a plan that relies on such "gimmicks," as he calls them. If such a budget is sent to him and he rejects it, lawmakers would still get paid because the new law just requires them to send a budget to the governor. Republicans have jockeyed for concessions on spending levels, pensions and business and environmental regulations.

Party leaders are negotiating a 10-year cap on annual state spending, using any surplus revenue to repay about $25 billion of debt, Huff said. That includes money siphoned from school districts, local governments and bonds sold to cover previous deficits.

Republican lawmakers have sought a ballot measure that would dismantle the existing state pension system that guarantees benefit levels regardless of investment returns. They have proposed replacing it with a hybrid that includes elements of a traditional defined-benefit plan and a 401(k) savings account, where recipients bear more of the investment risk. Democrats instead want to offer the hybrid plan as an option for state and local municipal employees, with some incentives to encourage workers to move away from defined- benefit pensions.




Explosion in jellyfish numbers may lead to ecological disaster, warn scientists
by Tracy McVeigh - Observer

A dramatic global increase in jellyfish swarms could damage the marine food chain

Global warming has long been blamed for the huge rise in the world's jellyfish population. But new research suggests that they, in turn, may be worsening the problem by producing more carbon than the oceans can cope with.

Research led by Rob Condon of the Virginia Institute of Marine Science in the US focuses on the effect that the increasing numbers of jellyfish are having on marine bateria, which play an important role by recycling nutrients created by decaying organisms back into the food web. The study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, finds that while bacteria are capable of absorbing the constituent carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus and other chemicals given off by most fish when they die, they cannot do the same with jellyfish.

The invertebrates, populating the seas in ever-increasing numbers, break down into biomass with especially high levels of carbon, which the bacteria cannot absorb well. Instead of using it to grow, the bacteria breathe it out as carbon dioxide. This means more of the gas is released into the atmosphere.

Dr Carol Turley, a scientist at Plymouth University's Marine Laboratory, said the research highlighted the growing problem of ocean acidification, the so-called "evil twin" of global warming. "Oceans have been taking up 25% of the carbon dioxide that man has produced over the last 200 years, so it's been acting as a buffer for climate change. When you add more carbon dioxide to sea water it becomes more acidic. And already that is happening at a rate that hasn't occurred in 600 million years." The acidification of the oceans is already predicted to have such a corrosive effect that unprotected shellfish will dissolve by the middle of the century."

Condon's research also found that the spike in jellyfish numbers is also turning the marine food cycle on its head. The creatures devour huge quantities of plankton, thus depriving small fish of the food they need. "This restricts the transfer of energy up the food chain because jellyfish are not readily consumed by other predators," said Condon.

The increase in the jellyfish population has been attributed to factors including climate change, over-fishing and the runoff of agricultural fertilisers. The rise in sea temperature and the elimination of predators such as sharks and tuna has made conditions ideal, and "blooms" – when populations explode in great swarms, sparking regular panics on beaches around the world– are being reported in ever-increasing size and frequency. Last year scientists at the University of British Columbia found that global warming was causing 2,000 different jellyfish species to appear earlier each year and expanding their number.

The proliferation of jellyfish has caused problems for seaside power and desalination plants in Japan, the Middle East and Africa. The blooms are also perilous to swimmers; the effects of a jellyfish sting range across the species from painless to tingling to agony and death.


100 comments:

Nassim said...

... do you mean a grab by groups internal to the KSA ...

No. By the USA. It is part of the deal.

BTW, nothing I am saying here is original. It can be called the Nixon/Carter/Reagan/Bush1/Bush2/Obama Doctrine, if you wish. It transcends presidencies.

The doctrine was also applied by the Nixon administration in the Persian Gulf region, with military aid to Iran and Saudi Arabia. According to author Michael Klare, application of the Nixon Doctrine "opened the floodgates" of U.S. military aid to allies in the Persian Gulf, and helped set the stage for the Carter Doctrine and for the subsequent direct U.S. military involvement of the Gulf War and the Iraq War.

Nixon Doctrine

bluebird said...

Why don't all the world powers have a meeting where they say that the derivatives, CDSs, swaps, are to be declared null and void. There is no money to pay them anyway, unless you are the first one to collect when the global Ponzi implodes.

A Walk in the Woods said...

"..Ratings agencies S&P, Moody's and Fitch may have a prominent place at the table, since their judgments are crucial to any deal..."

I can't believe anyone still believes anything these 'rating agencies' say about anything.

They are openly criminal entities adding and abetting the Bank Mafia in cooking the books on all things financial.

Is this the 'emperors clothes' version of honest financial assessment?

I can't believe that someone hasn't called for a review of the rating agencies themselves. A rating of the 'rating agencies' as it were.

The whole thing is so incestuous it would make a Roman Emperor blush.

It's a testament to how thoroughly utterly brain dead global 'investors' are that they even utter the names of S&P, Moody's or Fitch in the same sentence as 'good judgement' or 'after thorough review'.

The Three Wise Monkeys of Finance are now S&P, Moody's and Fitch.

They follow the Italian version, "Non vedo, non sento, non parlo" (I see nothing, I hear nothing, I say nothing), which expresses the Omertà, the code of silence enforced by criminal organizations like the Mafia, 'Ndrangheta, and Camorra.

The 'rating agencies' have even perverted the spirit of the The Three Monkeys which Mahatma Gandhi held dear as a moral reminder.
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Steve From Virginia said...

Bernanke, who has become all things evil to all people is off the hook on the EU 'bailout'.

Not saying it cannot happen but hasn't.

The Fed is the world's only source of unsterilized liquidity available on demand; the international lender of last resort.

The defective capital structures of EU banks have been obscured by misrepresented bank assets. As the state of bank balance sheets is revealed by the ongoing bond row, depositors head out the door. From long practice, Europeans easily move funds across currencies and borders. Try doing this sometime with your bank!

Europeans with cash are swapping euros for gold or Swiss francs to deposit in Swiss banks. Also, EU depositors are buying Treasuries as part of 'flight to safety'. There is a reason UST 10yr are ~ 3%.

While some of EU bank reserves include US dollars gained in the QE swap of US Treasuries to the Fed, the real problem for EU banks is eroding capital structures. The Eurozone is just as much a ponzi as the USA, the IMF- ESM bailouts are simply rear guard actions designed to allow timely liquidation of bank liabilities and prevent a panic. In this sense, these are like the Bernanke Money Laundry where the Federal Reserve's clients are allowed to trade worthless mortgage and other paper (stocks) for cash dollars. Any 'bailout' will be at the expanse of putative bank shareholders.

The money laundry is secondary: EU credit system has been held intact by improper 'mark to fantasy' accounting rather than net- inflows of new capital. There haven't been any such flows.

ZH is forum for an endless flow of 'hyperinflation' scary stories blaming Bernanke and QE for everything from high fuel prices (caused by Peak Oil) and food riots (droughts). Now, ZH insists the QE flow of funds is hidden in various Eurobanks' vaults. Can't be both, now can it?

If haircuts on Greed debt are imposed the likelihood is for a ramp up of bank runs and a short- term liquidity/credit freeze with Libor and Euribor ramping. Cash will be dear and all eyes will turn to the Fed.

Keep in mind, the same 'extend/pretend' mark-to-fantasy has rendered the ECB insolvent. This is behind Trichet's stand against restructing which would require the ECB to be recapitalized. Of the mini- central banks in the Eurozone, only the German and Scandinavian banks are whole. This leaves the Fed to provide liquidity along with China (which won't).

This is in the future, the past takes the Fed of the hook.

A Walk in the Woods said...

George Orwell's Animal Farm had the famous quote, "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

There's a wiff of Reality if I ever hear one.

Well I have a corollary to that truism regarding responsibility for the global cluskerphuck,

"All humans are guilty, but some humans are more guilty than others."

When Nelson Mandela finally rose to power in South Africa even he knew that the atrocities committed under apartheid could not be swept under the rug with a glib 'let bygones be bygones' pronouncement, even from him.

If some significant acknowledgement of wrong doing was not forth coming, then a blood bath of revenge would surely follow.

I don't see any mechanism for 'some significant acknowledgement of wrong doing' in this global financial rape. It just keeps building up a head of steam and the "some humans are more guilty than others" meme will not just fade into the night quietly.

There is no Nelson Mandela like figure on the world scene to even project a sense of justice.

Imagine a clownish sock puppet like Obummer 'stepping up' to fill Mandela's shoes. Grotesque is the word that pops to mind.

The Great Reckoning is taking form this summer.

Who knows, even the Prole Population of Duhmerica might even be able to buy a clue, that is if they still have two dimes to rub together.
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Alexander Ac said...

Yeah,

I like the last article about Jelly fish. Unfortunately this is only one of the myriads amplifying feedback loops that are making climate more and more unstable and also will make our "local (food) adaptation" that much more challenging - if not impossible in the long-term (centuries). Hey, ask those people in burning (bankrupt) Arizona!

But going back to finances and debt. We have some idea of what will happen, if Greece defaults. But do we have an idea what will happen when USA defaults?

Bank runs? Currency devaluation? Civil war? Rich vs. the poor? Continuing of current trends? Any ideas?

Cheers,

Alex

Jim R said...

Re: jellyfish

I think the consensus among oceanographers and marine biologists is that the bloom of jellyfish means an ecological disaster has already happened.

jal said...

Mortgage mess victim: Sarah Palin?

http://www.necn.com/06/09/11/Mortgage-mess-victim-Sarah-Palin/landing_business.html?blockID=533844&feedID=4209


Working with forensic investigator Marie McDonnell, president of McDonnell Property Analytics Inc. www.mcdonnellanalytics.com, O'Brien has found abundant evidence that the home a Palin trust bought in Scottsdale, Ariz., suffers from the same wretched Wall Street paper trail as millions of other U.S. homes where mortgages were converted into collateralized debt obligations and sold worldwide.

"These banks have participated in a national epidemic of fraud that has clouded or damaged the chain of title of hundreds of thousands of American homeowners all across the country. Sadly, Sarah Palin's misfortune will however, hopefully shine the national spotlight on this issue. Given her position in the country, I am sure that she will use her influence to stand up for homeowners and their property rights".

p01 said...

@Alexander Ac

Global war, fascismo-communismo dictatorship, a "boot stamping a human face forever", if history is any guide.
Given that historically such an overshoot and environment degradation-poisoning has never happened on such global scale, and was never coupled with such detachment from individual food production, not to mention with such sense of entitlement and wishful-magical thinking, I'd wager things will become much, much worse than that.

Not to be a complete party pooper, it is possible that mobs will just join hands and sing merry songs; did not happen in the mobs I've seen up-close, but who knows?

I will try my best to keep a very very respectable distance from mobs in the near future.

jal said...

The story gets better.
Here is the chart of Sarah’s clouded title
https://www.truthinlending.net/pdf/palins-tainted-title.pdf


Some people have been doing more digging on Safari Investments, LLC (Sara Palin)
(Follow the comments)

http://palingates.blogspot.com/2011/05/sarah-palin-we-have-few-questions-for.html#disqus_thread

I think they do a lot of things to hide the money trail and their activities and maybe in some cases to minimize taxes. The paper said they used Safari to buy the home so no one would find out it was them. I don't know but one of the other blogs mentioned Safari the other day - I think it was IM and how it maybe referred to Safari Lake where they own property. Maybe this llc was used then too for buying property.

I think Safari Investments LLC "incorporated" on 05/12/2011 is the same entity as the one incorporated back in 1996:

Safari Investments LLC purchased the AZ mansion on 05/13/2011 for $1.695 million. I don't think the company could have incorporated, set up bank accounts and transfer $1.695 million into the bank account in just one day. I think the 1996 entity was REINSTATED on 05/12/2011. Thus, the bank accounts were already in place and "fully funded". If so, what was the purpose of setting up this entity in 1996 and what financial transactions took place between 1996 and 2011? And why no mention of Safari Investments LLC on any financial disclosure forms?

Well, Sarah Palin, do you have an answer to these questions?

Why did you have an LLC (Limited Liability Company), in Delaware before your election as mayor of Wasilla in October 1996? Why did you need an LLC in March of that year?

We're going to dig a bit more and ask a few more questions, Sarah Palin.

Biologique Earl said...

Blogger Nassim said...

... do you mean a grab by groups internal to the KSA ...

No. By the USA. It is part of the deal.

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Hi Nassim, again thanks for the response. I guess I am naive but the existence of the "Doctrine" does not mean that RSA could not take independent action - or does it?

Biologique Earl said...

Excuse me KSA, I am getting tired, I guess. :-(

Phlogiston Água de Beber said...

Arnie Gundersen posted a new video regarding Fukushima fallout yesterday.
Hot Particles From Japan to Seattle Virtually Undetectable when Inhaled or Swallowed

el gallinazo said...

@Ilargi

The sellers and counterparties for the US MBS are largely American institutions, and they sold them all over the world. To China, to Japan, and to foreign banks and funds. In case of a default, a credit event, it's these American institutions that will have to pay up.

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Why would they have to pay up? Have they paid up to that little Norwegian city that they bankrupted north of the arctic circle? Isn't this a caveat emptor world? Or are you saying that they also issued CDS's along with the MBS bathroom tissue? That would be pretty stupid. Like selling insurance on the WTC after your guys planted the nanothermite.

re Sarah Palin

Yes her house was notarized by the infamous goddess Linda Greene of MERS, the Kilroy Was Here of the 21st century fraudfest, or perhaps the Shiva of a 100 hands, a fountain pen and ink stamp in each one. But I think the financial world will explode before the courts will ever settle this. Sarah will maintain her rightful ownership with two thugs with assault rifles. I think her real problem eventually with be water.

Re Steve from Virginia

ZH is forum for an endless flow of 'hyperinflation' scary stories blaming Bernanke and QE for everything from high fuel prices (caused by Peak Oil) and food riots (droughts). Now, ZH insists the QE flow of funds is hidden in various Eurobanks' vaults. Can't be both, now can it?
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Was it peak oil that pushed crude up to $147 and down to $35 a few months later? If so, I really do not understand the financial dynamics of peak oil. Everyone knew that QE2 was going on the books of PD banks and going into their reserves. Most people just assumed that it was for Usaco bankstas and not EU bankstas. I believe the ZH argument originally was that the insolvent Usaco banks were using that credit to double down on their gambling on equities and commodities. So now it appears that it was the EU banks that were doing it. So I don't follow or agree with your conclusions but am open to further elucidation.

Re Israel / Palestine from yesterday

It appears that the Rothschild and Warburg clans have a controlling interest in the Fed and certainly in the Bank of England. I think they have a vested interest in the state of Israel as insurance against the problem that they had with Hitler, as well as a (so far) great financial investment. Originally (1948), most of the power structure in the USA regarded Israel as a huge, client state military base with a cheap surrogate military in the land of crude oil, and they would call the shots. This idea could be supported by Eisenhower telling them to back off (along with England and France) in their invasion of Egypt in 1956 when it appeared that it was about to start a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. But because of the incredible personal corruption in the Usaco shadow and nominal governments, and because Israel pursues what it views rightly or wrongly to be in its national interest, while Usakistan leaders are only interested in grift, it became easy for the tail to start wagging the dog. By 1967, one can see how far this had progressed when Israel attacked and tried to sink the US spy ship Liberty in international waters, killed 34 Navy sailors and spooks, and Johnson didn't even fart in protest. It demonstrated Israeli control of American power, at least in relationship to its theatre of operation. However, Israelis are starting to get really nervous now that their karma is going to bite them in the ass. I read that something like 70% of Jewish Israelis either have or are pursuing EU or North American passports, and that the recent Russian immigrants are fleeing back to Russia in large numbers.

Alexander Ac said...

Hey, here is the Spanish revolution on YouTube

now anybody to tell Spaniards the past is NOT going to resemble future in ANY case?

I am with them, BTW...

Thanks p01,

cheers,

Alex

Ashvin said...

Re: "paying up" on MBS that were previously sold off to investors

That could happen if a legal foundation was established for fraudulent representations or transfer of defective titles (i.e. "putbacks"), which obviously happened a lot, but as we all know the "laws" hardly apply to the detriment of our financial owners. I'm assuming Ilargi was talking more about various types of derivative insurance that has been sold to investors, but not necessarily at the same time. It's been a classic tactic to increase the risk appetite for all sorts of bonds including Treasuries... to give investors a way to partially "hedge", even though there is no way all that insurance could come even close to paying out the full value of claims.

re: Steve from VA's point about QE2 and equity/commodity speculation

That is an interesting point. ZH does say that the European banks were speculating with the cash, but then they also say this:

That's right, out of 20 Primary Dealers, 12 are.... foreign. And incidentally, the reason why we added the (if any) above, is that since this cash is fungible between on and off-shore operations, what happened is that the $600 billion in cash was promptly repatriated and used by domestic branches of foreign banks to fill undercapitalization voids left by exposure to insolvent European PIIGS and for all other bankruptcy-related capital needs.

So it doesn't quite fit... perhaps only some of the cash was held onto in reserves for the above and/or perhaps the cash is being used as margin collateral in PD investment accounts (not sure how that works really in terms of keeping it listed as cash reserves). Also, it's obviously not just the PDs who have contributed to speculation, but many other investors who anticipated a ramp with QE2 or jumped on board after the fact.

el gallinazo said...

Alexander AC

Great video - a real keeper. The way the terrific music and video were edited together was fabulous. Thanks!

el gallinazo said...

Ash said...

That could happen if a legal foundation was established for fraudulent representations or transfer of defective titles (i.e. "putbacks"), which obviously happened a lot, but as we all know the "laws" hardly apply to the detriment of our financial owners.

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Yeah, it gives "criminal law" a whole new meaning.

Also,

On George Washington's blog (which always runs on ZH also), I saw a short video of our most exulted sociopath emeritus, Zbigniew Brzezinski, addressing his fellow Rockefeller Klan sociopaths at the CFR. He seemed concerned about the political awakening of the world's population, particularly via the internet. Wouldn't it be ironic if TAE had to use a Russian based server in a couple of years the way Mad Max uses RT and Iran?

BTW, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned his neighbor to the east, Pakistan, in a major speech last week that he had very hard intelligence that the United States was intending to disable their nuclear deterrent to bring them to heel, and they better take full precautions. Of course China warned three weeks ago that they would regard an attack on Pakistan to be an attack on China proper and would respond accordingly. Hmmm. Also, there are some rumblings in Germany about the Women's Soccer finals in Berlin at the end of this month becoming the scene of a major false flag attack. Seems it coincides with a lot of official drills. That is how they do them.

p01 said...

@el gallinazo
RE: video

Becoming a softie, are we? :)
Once in their lifetime everyone should have the opportunity to have their ideals shattered to pieces; Builds character, especially on Rock'n Roll music ;)
Truth is we're at the lights out moment.

SecularAnimist said...

Ah yes, the Arab world, was a precursor to, all over the world, the psychic locks that have held the populations in stasis have now been broken. We are standing before the walls of a metaphorical Jericho. The sound of magical trumpets fills the air but P01 can not hear them.

Nassim said...

... the existence of the "Doctrine" does not mean that KSA could not take independent action - or does it?

Robert,

The rulers are almost powerless. Forget about all the military hardware they buy to prop up the US Military Industrial Complex. They don't know how to use it. Also, they are divided into lots of factions. I mean, the Dad of all these kings had a new virgin pretty well every night for much of his life - a bit like the Chinese Emperors. Khashoggi was one of his pimps - hence his connections and his wealth. The pampered "religious scholars" are there to keep the people in line. This is hardly a stable arrangement in a country where you get executed for an extra-marital affair or for sex before marriage.

Unlike Iraq, the oil is near the ports and almost the whole of the Eastern Province is empty desert.

The Saudis gained control of the area after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. The inhabited areas had been known as Al-Ahsa under Ottoman rule, and the entire region was mostly known as Bahrain from pre-Islamic times until 1521. Many Saudi history books/articles call the Eastern Province Hasa and Qatif because the most famous ancient cities in it are Qatif and Al-Hasa. Most other cities—notably Dammam and Khobar—were built in the 20th century.

"Easy come, easy lose" - it is quite different from the situation in Iraq.

Phlogiston Água de Beber said...

Unlike Faux News, TAE is nothing if not fair and balanced. Sara N. Dipity dropped in again and presented me with these essays regarding Malthus views on population. If he has been unfairly vilified, he wouldn't be the first and certainly not the last. As we experience ourselves right here on TAE.

Thomas Robert Malthus

In Defense of Malthus

p01 said...

Heck, even legendary (and w/o bowtie) "investors" are starting to get it.

el gallinazo said...

po1

This time it's different :-)

With the internet and the education level among the disenfranchised and young of Western Europe, the various Ministries of Truth will prove less effective. Only remedies are to scare the shit out the populace as in 9/11 or kick the shit out of them with jackboots and clubs. The age of soft propaganda is ending quick. I would vote for Tubgirl before the NY Times for a Pulitzer, though it's often tough to tell them apart.

Usakistan has been so infected with Ayn Rand, the Marlboro Man, and St. Ronald, as well as singularly pathetic education that I assume it will form into a circular firing squad when times get a little tougher. NORTHCOM can probably pull out directors chairs, sit back, and watch from a distance. Maybe drop a bomb from a drone controlled by a pimply nerd in an armchair in Langley when things get boring.

Hmm. 300,000,000 people, $600B to the European banks. Let see, higher mathematics tells me that I just donated $2000, the price of a good 125cc Yamaha moto. Can I list Josef Ackermann as a dependent on my income tax next year?

SecularAnimist said...

Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. . . . we should . . . crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague . . . . But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and those benevolent, but mistaken men, who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders. If by these and similar means the annual mortality were increased from 1 in 36 or 40, to 1 in 18 or 20, we might possibly every one of us marry at the age of puberty, and yet few be absolutely starved." — Thomas Malthus, An Essay
on the Principle of Population, Book IV, Chapter 5 (second edition, 1803)

Charming, just charming

VK said...

Whistling pass the graveyard.

*Warning* signs flashing in tech

http://www.businessinsider.com/large-caps-that-have-plunged-double-digits-from-their-2011-highs-2011-6

SecularAnimist said...

Malthus, protecting the feudal pecking order from beyond his grave

Archie said...

El G said:

"With the internet and the education level among the disenfranchised and young of Western Europe, the various Ministries of Truth will prove less effective. Only remedies are to scare the shit out the populace as in 9/11 or kick the shit out of them with jackboots and clubs. The age of soft propaganda is ending quick. I would vote for Tubgirl before the NY Times for a Pulitzer, though it's often tough to tell them apart.

Usakistan has been so infected with Ayn Rand, the Marlboro Man, and St. Ronald, as well as singularly pathetic education that I assume it will form into a circular firing squad when times get a little tougher."

===================

Agreed, there is not a lot to be optimistic about in Dumberica. But the CNN poll and the comments sent in to Jack Cafferty that I linked to the other day gives me a small glimmer of hope. I think that maybe, just maybe, there are more downtrodden citizens paying attention and also getting IT than I had previously despairingly thought. Still, its a long way to Tipperary!

Some time ago you linked to this speech by John Pilger. It has served me well in times of despair and I have read it often.

Earlier today, I spent 2 hours of my time watching the documentary Lifting the Veil. It is time very well spent, imo, and the second half features some fairly long segments with both John Pilger and Chris Hedges.

There are strong voices out there exhibiting great moral courage. I think it would be a good thing to share their opinions in our local communities and perhaps, grow a larger movement of awareness and common good.

I find it most ironic that Milton Friedman published his book "The Tyranny of the Status Quo" in 1984!

SecularAnimist said...

"Heck, even legendary (and w/o bowtie) "investors" are starting to get it."

Granthem is no fool he doesn't want a revolt.

ha... investors are in massive overshoot and headed for a die off.

Interestingly, in his recent report he noted how it was going to be a bleak future - but if one was wise the could profit greatly. That is a sickness of the soul

el gallinazo said...

Archie

I am toughest on Usacos because I grew up among them them, they have been raised to be meaner than most folks I have met in other countries, and they are the raw fodder to feed the empire. And nothing has changed for the better. At the age of 19 I was taking buses down to Washington from my college town of Providence RI to protest the Vietnam War, and things have just gotten worse.

OTOH, I should take a page out of Joe Bageant's Rainbow Pie and share a little love for my countrymen as I despise most of their attitudes and beliefs. And remember that if you are raised in the dark and feed bullshit, you are going to think like a mushroom. And there but for the grace (or was it the curse) of God, go I.

But I am afraid to feel optimism because it can lead one to bad decisions. The reason that I HAARP on 9/11 is not because I ever expect any justice in this meatworld. It is to remember just how **phucking ruthless** they are. Not only will they not lose a minutes sleep killing 100,000 brown skinned children, they will kill 3,000 of their own with McMansions and kredit kards to clear the path for the empire.

ric2 said...

SA -

I am not sure why you keep bringing up Malthus. I don't think many people here give him much credence. Certainly I don't.

Those of us who see a large human population crash happening over the course of the 21st century do so based on writings of ecologists, population biologists, etc., folks who have observed and carefully documented these crashes in other organisms. (Of course there is also evidence that homo sapiens has already gone through at least one bottleneck - When the Sea Saved Humanity).

Your posts here remind me of what VK recently mentioned: whistling past the graveyard. Also reminds me of what you would sometimes hear in the lineup on big days in Hawaii: nervous chatter.

You would do better by refuting Catton or George Mobus whom I mentioned earlier but I don't think you can.

Heck, maybe you can start by at least familiarizing yourself with critiques of the Olduvai Theory or Jay Hanson's dieoff.org.

Criticizing Malthus is a waste of everyone's time. Some of your non-Malthus posts seemed to contribute to the conversation here, but you're starting to come across as a troll. May I suggest stepping up your game in terms of criticizing the population crash by referencing science / observation / empirical data / logical arguments instead of quoting the beastly Malthus?

V/R - ric2

el gallinazo said...

An open letter to Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!

Amy,

I am not in love with Bashar al-Assad (or his late father either), but unfortunately, you really don't have a clue what is going on there. The rebels are, for the most part armed, and directed by American intelligence. The USA wants regime change because Syria is allied with Iran and because it hosts a major Russian naval base on the Mediterranean which the USA wants removed. It's hard to root for either side, but I would rather see Assad stay in power than the CIA sock puppets take over. The Syrian people would probably get a better deal from him than Dominique Strauss Kahn's successor. I gave up donating to DN because you just really don't get it. Or maybe you have your own arrangements with the USA intelligence community. It's a strange world. Turn in your Brownie uniform and the cookies too. And stop talking about award winning authors and Pulitzer Prizes. Pleassssse! When you say the word Pulitzer all I can think of is the Florida divorce case and Hunter Thompson's epic Rolling Stone article, A Dog Took My Place. How can we take you seriously as alternative media when you suck up so to their little carrots?

Archie said...

@El G,

Thanks for your comments and I most definitely understand your reservations about USACOS, especially those of us from the Boomer generation.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a plurality has suddenly realized how much they have been phucked over! But I do get the undeniable inkling that the times are a changing. Maybe it's wishful thinking and even at my advanced age I'm unabashedly an idealist. Still, I live in a so-called "Red State" in the South and even here in cornpone, NASCAR, "Big Gulp" country (as Kunstler refers to them), I am pleasantly surprised that many people are no longer buying into the age old conservative BS.

John Pilger, Chris Hedges, Chris Floyd, Arthur Silber, and Ilargi are beacons of truth and humanitarian justice. Their observations and conclusions need to be diseminated locally, while simultaneously urging those same community members to withdraw from the established rigged system.

It is a process, and I think the only one that has anything like a favorable outcome for most of us trapped here. Anyway, I don't have anything better to do with my remaining time.

A Walk in the Woods said...

Jim K had a good post today:

"The failure of leadership around the world is now complete. Nobody who needs to get it gets it."

I think he was referring to the political problem masquerading as a financial one.

Well, it will never be solved as a 'political' problem.

'Politics' itself now is a broken concept.

It's looking more and more like a Physics problem.

You know, like 'for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.'

Or how about; what goes up must come down.

Or the perennial colloquial favorite; you can't put 10 lbs of sh*t in a 5 lb bag.

Gravity, Momentum, Acceleration, Deceleration, Velocity, Mass

These things are going to take over the helm shortly.

Once they do in earnest, you can't really 'bargain' or 'negotiate' with them.

They just proceed to The End.

A closer with Jim K:

"Our own money management team here in the USA is in a box even worse than Europe's. It's not even a hall of mirrors. It's a broke-down Winnebago with moldy upholstery and the propane line is leaking inside. Everybody's wondering if Ben Bernanke is going to light a cigarette. What else can he do?"

Hahaha, don't worry, he only lights a cigarette after he's had sex with Geithner.
_

Mike Tanis said...

One thing that Ms. Foss should look at to improve the blog is to limit comments to contributors. It would surely stop the trolls in their tracks. Think Ricochet.

A Walk in the Woods said...

An interesting report from Greece.

The Greek Government has hired Foreign Workers to Clean out the Underground Tunnel Leading from the Parliament to the Sea Port of Piraeus in Preparation for an Evacuation of all MPs

If this was Ireland, I suppose they'd just be using leprechauns.

;>)
_

scrofulous said...

@ El G

"Great video - a real keeper. The way the terrific music and video were edited together was fabulous. Thanks!"

I guess it just depends if one is into rather mindless propaganda effects to excite the nouveau teenybopper revolutionary. Come on El G even the bubblegum music of the 60's had some sort of standards.

Anonymous said...

anyone have any 401k or IRA liquidation strategies?

sensato said...

SecularAnimist: "But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and those benevolent, but mistaken men, who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders." Mathus

This looks very similar to the "goods" vs "bads" list proffered by Albert Bartlett, stated in another manner.

SecularAnimist said...

ric2 said...
"I am not sure why you keep bringing up Malthus. I don't think many people here give him much credence. Certainly I don't."

Well, I did not bring it up. Just scan up the list.

ric2 said...
"Those of us who see a large human population crash happening over the course of the 21st century do so based on writings of ecologists, population biologists, etc.,"

Right, you are aware that the world of scholars in those areas goes beyond the population hand ringing circuit - which is only a tiny minority. You do realize that, right? There are very few who have gone through the process I have been through -- a long intellectual journey. No boast, just a fact. There are loads of ignorant dipshit polyannas, but very few people who've read/studied/written deeply, and as from as many angles, for many years, about resource/energy issues, and who have finally come out the other side to the realization that it is bullshit -- that the whole focus is wrong. It is not a matter of facts; the facts (e.g. peak oil, AGW) are not in question. It is a state of consciousness, which leads to faulty(vs. correct) location of blame. The"resource shortfall" consciousness locates the blame incorrectly. And it does so to the great advantage of TPTB, the money powers, and generally those who are working toward a fascist or feudalistic future.

ric2 said...
"You would do better by refuting Catton or George Mobus whom I mentioned earlier but I don't think you can."

Have not read the new Catton. Catton is a excellent academic, and the best of the overpopulation hand wringing crowd, but his "overshoot" was published over three decades ago, and was based on research and thought 4-5 decades ago. And guess what? Things have CHANGED over the last half-century. . Mobus, on the other hand, has great information on energy and the economy but I don't know his specific views on "overpopulation". So I can't specifically comment. But I have been around the "overpopulation" intellectual block enough to probably know what his flaws are without reading it, but I won't comment for now.

"Heck, maybe you can start by at least familiarizing yourself with critiques of the Olduvai Theory or Jay Hanson's dieoff.org."

I know Hanson. He has a decent site, but he is (or
at least was, as of the early 2000s; I have not kept up with him since) a misanthropic neo-Malthusian with a hopelessly narrow and blinkered view of things -- including a bunch of (in retrospect, though I took some of it seriously at the time) shallow and vulgar "evolutionary psychology" crap that he used to justify his misanthropy. He has little real intellectual substance. He also has, it seems, almost no sense of nuance and complexity. To him, everything is black and white, and clear-cut. He has a 19th-century positivistic view of things that is quaint, but out of touch with contemporary reality
and philosophy of science.

Duncan of famed Olduvai theory is just a lunatic. Plain and simple. I took him seriously for a year in the early 2000s, but I am ashamed to admit it.

"Criticizing Malthus is a waste of everyone's time. Some of your non-Malthus posts seemed to contribute to the conversation here, but you're starting to come across as a troll."

As, I said I did not bring it up. For some ungodly reason people praise him(which I feel the need to respond to) when his view on population are wrong enough and his social theories vile enough, he should be met with scorn, rather that praise. Sorry, if you put me in a "troll" category for responding, but I thought I was allowed to do that. Am I not allowed to disagree?

scandia said...

@ El G, Just watched the Spanish Revolution video and yes it was well done. The innocence of it in these times is disturbing.
A pat down by Homeland Inc is only the beginning of control. Think about how control can happen. What immediately comes to mind is the e-coli outbreak in Europe. Was the strain created in a lab and released into a German sprout crop? Think about what " lives" in labs around the world and the predators who would even enjoy using such a control tool. So-o many ways to control us. Water supply is another example, especially now that it is being privatized. Or the products consumed by millions of people from the industrial food supply. How about a future covering your ears, writhing on the ground when you disobey.
Personally I think the protests are permitted until they are not.
At the Monticello Conference, meeting to further the Prosperity Protection Perimeter agenda, the leaders watched the protesters on TV as entertainment.Probably with drinks in hand. Chilling it was...
Currently protesters are coralled or assigned protest areas. This serves to continue the illusion of democracy for the time being.
No, strategy has to be more sophisticated than protest in the square.
Speaking of which the Greeks better blast that escape tunnel being prepared for the MP's about to sell them out before June 15th.
Notice the gov't hired foreign workers in the hopes a foreigner won't sabotage the tunnel. If I was a Greek MP I wouldn't use it.
So why do the oligarchs use bullets, tanks and bombs to suppress dissent? There's money to be made. the MIC doesn't profit near so much by releasing a narcotic/sedative into the water supply.

p01 said...

@ric2:
Told ya ;)

scandia said...

On further reflection the tunnel being ever so publically prepared for escape is a red herring. The escape route is somehow/somewhere else.

VK said...

PIG Bonds soaring today.

Of note, Westexas of ELM fame (Jeffrey Brown) at the Oil Drum had these wonderful snippets of data to share,

"Global Net Export Data*

2002: 39.1 mbpd
2003: 41.6
2004: 44.8
2005: 45.5
2006: 45.5
2007: 44.6
2008: 44.5
2009: 42.3
2010: 42.6

*33 net exporters with 100,000 bpd or more of net exports in 2005, BP + Minor EIA data"

And

"Chindia's combined net oil imports went from 5.1 mbpd in 2005 to 7.5 mbpd (inclusive of the rather curious increase in reported Chinese production). In any case, their combined net oil imports, as a percentage of GNE, went from 11.2% in 2005 to 17.6% in 2010.

So Available Net Exports (ANE), i.e., GNE not consumed by Chindia, fell from 40.4 mbpd in 2005 to 35.1 mbpd in 2010. I'm projecting that ANE will be down to about 27 to 30 mbpd in 2015."

Also this is the Saudi data, clearly looking peaky from a net export perspective.

"Note that Saudi net oil exports have now shown year over year declines for four of the past five years, versus year over year increases in annual oil prices for four of the past five years. Here are the most recent Saudi net export data (BP):

2005: 9.1 mbpd
2006: 8.8
2007: 8.3
2008: 8.5
2009: 7.3
2010: 7.2

"

A Walk in the Woods said...

Not to start off a gold vs everything else food fight but ZH has this headline:

Priced In Gold, The Median Home Price Is Down 80% In The Past Decade

This backs up TAE's position on the fall of home prices down to 80-90% of value but also implies that the median house price will punch through to rock bottom eventually as a 'rebound' effect. It had so far to fall and built up momentum on the way down that the over compensation effect will truly be a monster. Houses will never be worth nothing but how close to nothing is a theoritical limit at this point.
_
_

bluebird said...

John Xenakis - The Principle of Maximum Ruin


"During a financial crash following the implosion of a generational credit bubble, the markets act in an incredibly ingenious manner, to ruin the maximum number of people to the maximum extent possible."
.
Xenakis also discusses Steve Keen.
.
"Keen's analysis fills in a gap in Generational Dynamics theory, by describing exactly where the 1970s macroeconomic models go wrong in the 2000s. Keen doesn't relate his analysis to generational theory, but it's this transition from a "well-functioning economy" to a "Ponzi economy" that occurs as the survivors of the previous financial crisis (the Great Depression) all disappear, leaving behind younger generations that have no fear of unlimited debt acceleration."

"The "Principle of Maximum Ruin" says that these young generations have no fear of accelerating debt until the trend exhausts itself, causing them to lose everything in a new Depression. As Keen points out, this lesson has not yet been learned, and the worst of the financial crisis is yet to come."
................
As to my fmaily and friends, not one of them, has any clue what is coming. They all talk about buying the latest tech gadgets, taking exotic vacations, buying new big cars, investing more in the stock market, despite my warnings that the markets are due for a decline.

They know that basic stuff (like clothes, shoes, towels, tools) are made in other countries and are imported to U.S., but they don't connect the dots that eventually shipments of stuff, and oil, will become fewer, if not completely stopped.

It is impossible to wake them up to the future, and unfortunately they will find out the hard way 'The Principle of Maximum Ruin'.

Ashvin said...

El G,

You are probably aware of Andrew Gavin Marshall and his article about "The Global Political Awakening", but if not, I recommend you and others check it out:

The Global Political Awakening and the New World Order, Part I

For whatever reason, I don't think Part II or III ever came out, but I really liked this part as a sort of intro to Zbig's concept.

A Walk in the Woods said...

Generational memory is closely related to the principle of 'institutional memory'

Except that generational memory has a shelf life of, you guessed it, one generation where as 'institutional memory' goes on through multi generations.

Not only do most Duhmericans have no real cognitive skills or powers of common sense observation (the Banksters are robbing you blind in broad daylight) they have no memory skill, short term, medium term, or long generational term.

Instead of the Scarlet Letter 'A' sewn on their clothes, it should be the Scarlet 'M' for Moron.

Xenakis hits it out of the ballpark.

The piece meal repeal of Glass-Stigel was running neck & neck with the death of the Great Depression generation. They still remembered how bad it was and why laws were enacted to prevent a recurrence.

This generational memory thing is something that the Evil Mastermind Edward Bernays was well aware of and incorporated into his 'public relations' theories on how to govern the Proles.

Bless his pointed little ears and head.

Works like a Charm.
_

bluebird said...

skilo said "anyone have any 401k or IRA liquidation strategies?"

If you are still working, chances are that you will not be able to liquidate the 401k. For an IRA, to avoid paying a huge amount of taxes (and possible penalty if less than 59 1/2), you could liquidate an IRA over several years thus spreading out the taxes in several chunks instead of all at once.

eeyores enigma said...

I'm sure many or most have heard this before but it seems relevant;

Noam Chomsky: On Anarchism Libertarian Socialism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHBvQRyOr0

Gravity said...

"When all institutional roads to change are blocked, all that remains is kinetic citizenship."

Gravity said...

I haven't been very attentive to this space of late. I heard Greece has been downgraded to ruinous.

Directed kinetic citizenship may sometimes succeed in removing any particularly obstructive state-sanctioned blockades of institutional pathways to change without destroying civil society, yet it would itself be unable to reconstruct a community of civil institutions within the confines of the state. Otherwise, wholly decentralised and politically deinstitutionalised change of an non-kinetic anarchist variety may be more constructive.

Secular Animist's enthusiastic anti-malthusianism seems sincere, but mostly involves the premise that any expectation of a fast die-off scenario automatically entails a misantrophic ideology or misappropriated population dynamics, which is oversimplified. Still, no die-off must necessarily happen, but such tragedy is now likely to occur in some measure, if only by government incompetence in handling collapse.

TAE Summary said...

* PDQ Bach on music - Loud is good, fast is better, loud and fast is best of all

* SecularAnimists on collapse - Hard is good, fast is better, hard and fast is best of all

* Self aware + big brain makes one dangerous; George Bush proved that neither of these are necessary

* Imperialism plus military hegemony is nothing new; Call it the Sargon Doctrine

* Rating agencies are splintered reeds; We need a rating agency to rate the rating agencies; Who will rate the rating agency raters? It's turtles all the way down

* Some animals are more equal than others; Not everything is black and white; Reality looks and smells like pig shit

* Jelly fish are just one link in the feedback chain; They are too carbon based; They are not the canary in the coal mine, they are the explosion in the coal mine

* Europeans are selling euros for gold; A Greek default is then end of the Euro; A US default is the end of universe; An attack on Pakistan is like an attack on China only south and west

* Obama is no Mandela; Palin's Scottsdale mortgage has dubious bloodlines; Only those who contribute should be allowed to comment

* Civilization: Past performance is no guaruntee of future results; The market plans to do the most damage to the greatest number of people; This time it's different

* Once in your lifetime you should have your ideals shattered; Legendary investors understand that now is the time to profit from the death of 3/4 of humanity; The economy can be healed by praying to St. Ronald, saying 30 Hail Ayns and singing Kumbaya with your fellow mobbers

* Malthus is unfairly vilified and criticizing him is poor sport; Why not pick on someone your own size? The proper state of consciousness will solve all our problems; You gotta hate them misanthropes

* Be tough on Americans; They are mean and are standardly deviants; Every man, woman and child in the US has donated 4 shares of google stock to Europe; US citizens will someday form one huge circle, look the person on the other side in the eye and pull the trigger

* Optimisim leads to bad decisions; We have gone from a financial crisis to a political crisis to a physics crisis; Gravity and momentum will have the last laugh

* Tech stocks have plunged; House prices will go to zero in the limit; Most of what we have is made abroad and will not be shipped to us someday; Savvy consumers are already planning shopping trips to Guangzhou

* Word of the Day: malthus; adjective; from French mal=bad and English thus=description of consequence; A poor evaluation of consequences; Usage example: Claiming that peak oil will cause dieoff is malthus bologna

Frank said...

TAE Summary, you have outdone yourself. Brilliant.

Ruben said...

@secularanimist

Your summation of opinions of big thinkers got my attention, but now I can't remember what your point was.

I get that you don't like Malthus, and think that resource depletion is the wrong place to look. Can you give me a couple of sentences on where the right place to look is?

el gallinazo said...

Regarding that (for a few) inspiring and optimistic video I suggested, sorry for the embarrassing public flashback. I happens occasionally to certain people of my generation and ilk. I will consult my physician. Maybe there are meds.

However, what it shows is the first step for the population at large to understand at a gut level that they are in a political class war. I have no doubt that the Oligarchs will instruct their troops eventually to fire on these kids with automatic weapons in the so-called European heartland of democracy. They will plant violent agent provocateurs (as George Washington recently documented in ZH) to try to scare the bulk of the populace into submission and to excuse their massacres. What will happen then is hard to figure for sure. The most probable is a Stasi like outcome, with the Oligarchs running the show. But it is not the only possible outcome.

If the opposition is strong and wily enough, the Oligarchs may have to retreat to green zones, leaving the rest of the country to anarchy. There are some leaks coming out of the US military that this is the eventual fall back plan. But living in anarchy is better than the fascist iron boot, and most people in the world are pretty decent, though as experiments in California universities demonstrate, are easily perverted when put in a gulag situation and given a rank above buck private.

I am now living in a community (Mexico) a lot poorer than what I saw in the USA though I haven't lived in the USA for a long time. St. John, US Virgin Islands does not really qualify as the USA. There seems to be a lot of inexpensive food, at least the veggies. I can buy about 4 kilos of nice stir fry veggies and fruit for about USD4.00. Better cuts of lean beef cost about USD6.00 per kg. Some people live in hovels and are really poor. Most people seem much friendlier with each other and happier than what I remember in the USA. The extended family is much more important. The women over 25 are quite fat, probably from drinking too much HFCS and eating sweets, and there is probably a lot of diabetes, though I haven't seen many foot amputations. The kids seem a lot gentler and softer with each other than when I was growing up in NJ. Even though I am an obvious gringo and far from fluent, old men on the street waiting for shoe shine customers engage me in amiable conversations about things like when the rains will come. The pace of life is slower. But the heat in the summer here leaves little choice.

Anonymous said...

@ Alexander AC

Thanks for the great video!

El G,

Great posts! :)

Ashvin said...

EL G said... "If the opposition is strong and wily enough, the Oligarchs may have to retreat to green zones, leaving the rest of the country to anarchy. There are some leaks coming out of the US military that this is the eventual fall back plan. But living in anarchy is better than the fascist iron boot, and most people in the world are pretty decent, though as experiments in California universities demonstrate, are easily perverted when put in a gulag situation and given a rank above buck private."

This is what I generally feel will be peak oil's gift to humans constantly fantasizing about freedom, but never attaining it (if they are fortunate and/or clever enough to survive, although death may be the ultimate freedom).

Returning to Zbig, this is something I wrote earlier this year about him in the context of peak oil:

"But, how far can this over-reaching logic carry the elites in power? Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to President Carter and notorious geopolitical strategist for the U.S., has accurately analogized the expansion of financial hegemony to a game of Chess. The players who take a hard bee-line for the opponents' major pieces make themselves acutely vulnerable and are bound to eventually suffer defeat. According to Brzezinski, this vulnerability takes the form of a "global political awakening", in which populist sentiment overwhelms the domination of power [5]

America needs to face squarely a centrally important new global reality: that the world's population is experiencing a political awakening unprecedented in scope and intensity, with the result that the politics of populism are transforming the politics of power. The need to respond to that massive phenomenon poses to the uniquely sovereign America an historic dilemma: What should be the central definition of America's global role? [6]

By "uniquely sovereign", he means a country that is sovereign as a small group of powerful people administering its policies, not as a democratic nation. What Brzezinski failed to recognize, however, was that these people no longer have the luxury of carefully crafting globalist policies in resource-rich regions, as he did with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and the Shah in Iran [7], due to peak finance and oil.

They have created an environment in which their only option to move forward is brute force, and it is simultaneously the worst option. In the process of deploying military hardware to secure critical resources such as oil, significant portions of these resources will be destroyed and increasing resistance will be met. Brzezinski also ignored the fact that "populism" would not be isolated to the system's developing periphery, but would rapidly spread to its center.

...When tens of millions of people in the developed world are forced to live without access to basic electricity or fuel for transportation, along with any other expected luxuries, no amount of whitewashing or clever propaganda will dull the systemic shock. Television ratings won't soar, because consumers of entertainment will have neither the ability nor desire to watch themselves suffer in real-time."

When the Lights Go Out

I said feel, though, because as you said, it's hard to objectively figure out this stuff at the end of the day.

A Walk in the Woods said...

El G

The retreat to the Green Zones (Lizard Lounges) is not going to be on a first come first serve basis.

The Lizard Kings have undoubtly instructed their minions and toadies in the military officer corps to profile all enlisted soldiers for certain personality characteristics, just like they have unconstitutionally and illegally invaded the privacy of the general public and done their best to profile them.

Just cause you're in the military doesn't mean you are trusted or even valued by The Lizards. They are cannibals and they do eat their own.

Some military units are like the German SS units, they are 'more equal' than other units.

They will be inside the Green Zones, the less than fanatically loyal units will be just outside the walls as 'a buffer'.

They will be like Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamera's 'Moron Corps' (look it up) and be available for cannon fodder as needed.

The major militaries around the world have always been sorted into 'made men' and everyone else. .

The SS guards at The Bunker were the result of a highly refined selective process. This time is no different.
_

lautturi said...

@ TAE Summary

...rolling on the floor...

@ others

John Pilger's latest movie didn't fly very well in Santa Fe. Perhaps the title of the movie was too much "The War You Don't See"

Only in the Land of the Free... not that it's much better anywhere else.

SecularAnimist said...

" get that you don't like Malthus, and think that resource depletion is the wrong place to look. Can you give me a couple of sentences on where the right place to look is?"

Well, that is a big question, but I will keep it simple.

Yeah, resources have been depleting since we started using them. As we all know, we live on a finite planet. It's ok to act like it.

The global economy, for the most part, is a perpetual waste, bad behavior and bad decision maker - that has nothing to do with serving human needs. It's the manifestation of junky mentality on a mass-scale, personified in the wall street gangsters. We could get by just fine on half of our global oil allotment - our economy CAN"T - hence the paradox, people have a hard time wrapping their head around. At this stage in the global destruction for profit game, it a massive resource management and unnecessary overuse(encouraged for profit) - leading into a systemic malfunction(about now) and less to do with "not enough".

Nothing serves our capitalist overlords better than a counter culture movement holding "principles of population" screaming "Technology is not going to save us". That is on par with the other side of the coin, the Alex Jonesians, that think all environmental problems are part of some world communist conspiracy - whom also think there are imminent food shortages looming. Talk about two counter cultures that are zero threat to the dominant social order. One because of their fatalism and the other because of their idiocy,

All the growing crises are symptoms born out of an out-dated and severely flawed social organization, that is blind to the natural world, and wrong about human behavior, motivations, etc... Neoclassical economics has nothing to do with Neurology, evolution, health, natural systems, etc and because of this, it's created a virtual doomsday machine with the global society. It's game theory controlled by a small handful of people that, also, don't think much about humanity

I just found this recently. Kind of interesting.

The Science of Motivation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

p01 said...

el gallinazo said...
I will consult my physician. Maybe there are meds.

Nah, you're fine. Living through a "dictatorship -> revolution -> worse_than_before -> comin'_to_the_free_world just in time to find out it's ending" made me a cynical asshole.
Wait for your turn, no meds required :-)

Nassim said...

Spain is quite an unusual European country. They had a very serious civil war in 1936-39 and lots of foreigners were involved. When I was a kid and my family lived there, the civil war was a completely taboo subject. No one asked, or dared ask, questions. 500,000 people were killed in a country of 25 million. Huge numbers were wounded or had to flee. Many of my teenage French friends from Toulouse had parents who had fled to France - Catalunya was largely Republican (i.e. the losers).

After Franco's death in 1975, things started changing rapidly. However, it still took perhaps 20 years for people to feel free to discuss the civil war. I suspect that, in consequence, Spanish youth is a lot more conscious of their recent history than kids from any other European country. They probably know more than their parents but less than their grandparents.

Ashvin said...
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el gallinazo said...

po1

I was being facetious. Gotta hang onto a little bit of that youthful idealism or you turn into a turd.

But I did consult my physician anyway. He prescribed Pacifica Ballenon in 1.2 liter bottles and plenty of it. Let's see - it reads ad libitum. Seems to be helping.

Ashvin said...

SA,

As you may have already surmised, I'm pretty much in agreement with your views. I've never been as critical of the so-called "doomers", though, because in many ways they are just saying "technology won't save our current forms of economic and sociopolitical organization", rather than it won't save humanity as species. Maybe I shouldn't speak for others, but I know that's what I have always said. Although, the break down of those systems does have extreme implications for human life, simply because we have become so dependent on their healthy functioning.

Which brings me to another more philosophical point that has bugged human beings for thousands of years. To what extent could human biology, in the context of our natural environment, be seen as necessarily leading to the capitalist form of economic organization over time? Where do we draw the line between the natural evolution of socioeconomic systems and the natural evolution of life itself? I'm not asking those questions rhetorically at all, because I'm not really attached to an opinion one way or the other, and I just like to hear what other people think about the fundamental "free will" vs "destiny" debate.

p01 said...

Ash said...
To what extent could human biology, in the context of our natural environment, be seen as necessarily leading to the capitalist form of economic organization over time? Where do we draw the line between the natural evolution of socioeconomic systems and the natural evolution of life itself?

All of it is natural, and evolutionary natural by definition, because it has happened.
I personally don't draw any line between the two, but rather see them as things that have evolved into the present, and therefore are "evolutionary correct". Not to say they are pleasant or "moral".
$hit happened.
MHO.

Ruben said...

@ SA and Ash,

I do think population is a problem, though it is only a problem because of the way we live. I also think resource depletion is a problem, again because of the way we live. I don't have great hopes of a massive opting-out of destructosumerism.

I tend to think Technology Will Not Save Us, because technology "has nothing to do with Neurology, evolution, health, natural systems" Again, technology is fine enough (especially if you are a fan of Ursula Franklin) but it is so bound up in cultural myths and assumptions that I don't have great hopes for salvation.

So sure, we could transition to a renewable energy economy--except that in order to do so we would have to crash the drive-through cheeseburger economy so we could use the energy to manufacture renewable infrastructure. I don't see that as likely.

So I am in the "INSERT FAVOURITE VAPORWARE HERE won't save our current forms of economic and sociopolitical organization" camp.

Ruben said...

p.s. One in eight humans that have EVER lived are alive today.

http://bit.ly/mgVAzF

Phlogiston Água de Beber said...

The arrival of capitalism has a lot less to do with human biology than with plant biology. Farmers and herders depend on plant biology for their way of life. Without some mastery of it they would be hunter/gatherers. The civilizations they enabled are also the breeding grounds of the seven mortal sins, as defined by the sky god religions. One of those sins, greed, constitutes the guiding principle of capitalism. Economic organization has always been essentially capitalistic, but capitalists have not always controlled social organization. The sky god priesthoods fostered some moderately effective opposition to it as represented in the gospel writers portraying the mythical Jesus driving the money changers from the temple.

Animistic hunter/gatherer peoples seem not to have needed much in the way of such tales. I'm referring to real animists, not bloggerizing fakers.

The key to plain old fashioned greed gaining social ascendancy was the invention of the economist. The economists gave the greedy a patina of respectability. Out of that the Mammonites constructed a whole new pseudo religion we call capitalism. Malthus can be pilloried just for allowing himself to be called an economist.

After a few generations the money changers far from being chased from the temples could actually proclaim in public that they were "doing God's work." As longtime readers here might recall, I respond with, true, and the god's name is Mammon.

You could call this an evolutionary development, but if so, it must be more Lamarckian than Darwinian. It came from the ability of certain grasses, legumes, nuts and fruits to enslave humans and pervert their morals. I am reminded of a line the scriptwriters gave to Nicolas Cage in The Rock. "VX is one of those things we wish could be uninvented." You could say the same thing about capitalism, but to guarantee it never arising you would have to uninvent farming.

The really interesting question is, having laid the rails for the successful run of the capitalist juggernaut, is it possible that capitalism might reward them by uninventing farming and economists. The odds must be quite long, but there are faint signs that there might be a slight possibility. What kind of world would come out of that?

el gallinazo said...

Ash,

A couple of disjointed thoughts to your question. First, knowing you, when you speak of capitalism, you are using the term in a specific and detailed way.

As to whether human evolution naturally leads to (or through) capitalism, my knee jerk response is no. Modern humans have been on the planet for somewhere between 45,000 and 120,000 years depending on how you want to cut it. While the fossil evidence doesn't show any advancement in cranial capacity for over 100,000 years, we have the rather mysterious advance from paleolithic to neolithic culture, which depending on the area, is usually dated at about 45,000. It is sometimes referred to as "the great leap forward." All conjectures as to why this great cultural advancement of humanity took place are tentative. One theory has to do with the wiring of inborn language into the brain structure. Another has to do with development of speech due to a fine tuning of the larynx (which is difficult to determine from the fossil record).

The earliest development of agriculture is often dated at about 12-15,000 years ago. And that the split with our closest living relatives, bonobos goes back around 5.5 million years.

So here we have a certain chronology:

Split with chimps - 5,500,000
Apparent fully modern humans - 100,000
Neolithic great leap forward - 45,000
Agriculture - 13,000
City States - 6,000
Capitalism - 400

Maybe you can see what I am driving at here. The modern human gene pool sat around for 90% of its existence before some wise guy had an idea to plant a seed in the back yard or tie up a cow. I see little predestined here.

Something else which a lot of people don't know. One of the most glaring aspects in the archeological record dealing with the transformation from hunter gathers to agriculture is the huge decrease in over all health and robustness of the skeletal remains and an increase in chronic type diseases. Agricultural man could out breed hunter gatherers, but at an appalling price to the general health (and no doubt, to the soul as well). Monsanto will undoubtedly make great advances still in this area of the agricultural downward health and death spiral. If I were to argue the existence of hell and Satan, I would start with a presentation of Monsanto Corp. Satan is undoubtedly chairman of the board.

Nassim said...

America's Cup catamaran capsizes

Rather symbolic for Larry Ellison and Oracle.

jal said...

@ el gallinazo

Re.: Our split from the bonobo

In everything that I have read, there is the presumption that the bonono etc. have not evolved since, ie. 5,5 MY
and that homo has done the evolving.

Have you read anything that discusses the evolution of the bonobo?

jal

Alexander Ac said...

Allow me one recent commentary on extreme weather:

Warning: extreme weather ahead

" Tornados, wildfires, droughts and floods were once seen as freak conditions. But the environmental disasters now striking the world are shocking signs of 'global weirding' "

A Walk in the Woods said...

"...is it possible that capitalism might reward them by uninventing farming..."

I believe the Strangelovian United States Air Force General and the vice presidential running mate of American Independent Party candidate George Wallace in 1968., Curtis Emerson LeMay had that covered.

LeMay is quoted as saying his response to North Vietnam would be to demand that "they... stop their aggression, or we’re going to bomb them back into the Stone Age."

It's that Bomb Them Back Into the Stone Age (BTBISA) part that is still a distinct human option.

That would un-invent farming if applied over a broad enough world canvas.

Gives a new twist on Think Locally, Act Globally.

I can see the survivors of that scenario cracking walnuts with their iPhones.

Does that make them offically hunter gatherers?

Genetically modified mutant plant diseases and hyper-superfly-packin'-tricked out- bitchin' bugs would go a long long way towards un-inventing 'agriculture'.

Moninsanity-GM-Seeds-R-U.S.
_

p01 said...

Just in case the clusterfsck was not big enough, there's a "level 4" at Nebraska nuclear power plant.
As always, take "level 4" with a grain of salt and escalate, expect worst, hope best.

A Walk in the Woods said...

Ya know, H. s. Sapien's 'big brain' needs a good pistol whipping.

Let's see, where to begin.

A long ,long, long time ago a certain hominid sub species emerged into prominence and spread from the Balkins and the Steppes into western Europe. It was dubbed Homo Sapien Sapien.

There's the first clue right there, that it wasn't too smart. It named itself twice, like Michael Palin's character in Wanda the Fish, you Ba Ba Bastard.

H s Sapien, nicknamed Cro-Magnon, was an aggressive little subspecies and showed early on in it's history that it would expand psychotically into any land mass it encountered and hunt to near extinction most large mammals it crossed paths with in no time at all.

Later on this was probably a contributing factor in the invention of 'agriculture', the absence of enough large game animals as an energy resource in uncountable quantities.

As Cro-Magnon approached what is now Really Really Old Europe from the east, it got a rude awakening in the form of H Neanderthalus, another hominid species (OMG) that had occupied and flourished in Europe for at least the previous 130,000 years if not longer. Horrors, that made them Interlopers (gasp), a word not yet invented.

It was a clash of Fashion from the get go.

Cro-Magnon shared the European landscape with Neanderthals for some 10,000 years or more, before the latter disappeared from the fossil record.

In one corner, we had the Neanderthals, very robust, physically larger and stronger than the wimpier Cro-Magnons. Fabulous eyebrows to go on their fabulous brows. Square jawed like a really rugged Western Cowboy actor without the big hat and big intellect.

In the other corner we had Cro-Magnon, smart as a whip, not as Pumped Up as Neanderthals but never missing a workout at the gym and always watching their slim buff figures and fabulous 'good' looks in the pond surface. You look Marvelous!

In addition to advanced language abilities far and above Neanderthals, they invented Narcissism.

In a Mano-a-mano contest, Neanderthals could beat the holy living snot out of a Cro-Magnon until they bled from their demurely proportioned ears.

As a 'modern man' you wouldn't want to meet a Neanderthal in a dark alley, he could kick your sorry ass seven ways from Sunday.

However, the Cro-Magnons had more 'firepower' in their Big Bad Brains. In general, they could out think Neanderthals with one hemisphere of their cortex tied behind their backs. They had 'attitude' and 'spunk' and they also invented Snark, an extremely advanced virulent form of Sarcasm, which they also invented. (see TAE Summary as evidence)

The Neanderthals vs Cro-Magnons faceoff would be like Forest Gump being billed against Bernie Madoff in a World Wrestling Federation Slap down.
_

SecularAnimist said...

"I tend to think Technology Will Not Save Us, because technology "has nothing to do with Neurology, evolution, health, natural systems" Again, technology is fine enough (especially if you are a fan of Ursula Franklin) but it is so bound up in cultural myths and assumptions that I don't have great hopes for salvation."

Leaving aside the definition of the word "save". Which, really, is a silly phraseology for this context. My irritation, is in the, I guess, misunderstanding and hence misdirecting of scorn towards counterproductive cultural myths. The false "hope", in which the counter culturalists should direct their ire, lies in market mythology, which, technology is allegedly a byproduct of, spawned by magical price point pressures that tell people what to do.

Milton Friedman actually said, when asked about environmental problems, that "prices" would fix everything. That is the kind of delusion that is pervasive in society. It's not, in the affinity of our cultural application of scientific knowledge (technology), which can, does and could do a lot more serving of socially beneficial needs.

If anything market protocols stunt social betterment with perverse profit motives and a myriad of other influences.

It would more appropriately be phrased, "Market protocols are not going to save us" if one wanted to attack the root of the mythology. Hubbert actually stated in the 80's, that our biggest hang up in going post peak, would be, what he called" the monetary culture which evolved from the folkways of pre-history" that was an "incompatible intellectual system" with the rules of energy/matter.

I have to admit, I like electricity and running water, it's "saves" me a lot of discomfort.

A Walk in the Woods said...

Part II

Pistol Whipping the Big Bad Brain

Neanderthals had stone tools and spears for hunting, Cro-Magnons however had stone tools and had invented bow & arrows.

In a 'rock-paper-scissors' contest, a bow & arrow beats the hell out of a Neanderthal spear. Cro-Magnon could kill stuff from a much greater distance than their big browed knuckle dragging relatives.

Cro-Magnon also showed signs of a much more sophisticated social organizational skill set and language expertise. Probably because their Big Bad Brain's could invent and use pretentious four syllable words and small print in contracts.

Neanderthals could only grunt mono-syllabic taunts and be 'color' commentators at contact sporting events.

In the 10,000 years these two hominid sub species co-habituated 'Really Really Old Europe', the Neanderthals never figured out the bow & arrow thing. Never connected the dots on the concept of stringing a bow to launch a deadly projectile. It was the first documented case of human Projectile Dysfunction.

It would be like the Greeks and the Irish watching Goldmman Sach's rape and destroy their economy's for 10,000 years in a row and never figuring out they were Thieves and Cheats and Liars and Psychopaths.

Go figure, Eh?

Neanderthals also never got beyond the slightly extended family unit of organization. Cro-Magnons had villages and possibly condo associations.

At some tipping point in the decline/transition of the early 'Cave Men', Cro-Magnon out numbered Neanderthals. Although there is not much solid evidence, merely conjecture, I'm with the camp that believe Cro-Magnon simply decided to 'hunt' Neanderthals into extinction, like just another large mammal, first for practical reasons of more territory and 'stuff' and then just for fun and entertainment.

Cro-Magnon's true distinguishing characteristic and core nature was unlimited resource consumption and hence a pronounce predisposition for the budding art of Mass Murder, so they could get More More More.

It's built into their genes, it wasn't built into Neanderthals however as evidenced by their demise. Watch out Greece and Ireland.

It was slow and disorganized at first in their history but over time, Cro-Magnons have proven beyond a doubt that no other creature in existence has perfected the art of planned killing like them. The poor Neanderthals just didn't have the genetic endowment for a Big Bad Brain to power this Blood Lustpalooza like Cro-Magnons.

Cro-Magnons went on to making all types of other non human creatures extinct. It truly distinguishes H s Sapien from your garden variety hominid.

Planning mass murder and Global Ecocide needs a Big Bad Brain. In this department, H s Sapien has the Right Stuff.

Look where it's gotten them, present day CDSs are weapons of financial mass murder.

Mission Accomplished!

I propose renaming H s Sapien to Homo MassMurderous.

H s Neanderthalus never made the grade. They got to watch their replacements, the Superior Big Bad Brained Murder Monkeys slowly help grind their genetic legacy into dust.

High Five!

Maybe a Kinder Gentler replacement hominid sub species walks among us now and we just can't see them, blinded as we are by the Sheer Brilliance of our Big Bad Naturally Homicidal Brains.

Hey, I gotta go string my bow and mingle with the convention crowd.
_

Biologique Earl said...

Derringer:

The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased 0.2 percent in May on a seasonally adjusted basis, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.Over the last 12 months, the all items index increased 3.6 percent before seasonal adjustment.

The general business conditions index slipped below zero for the first time since November of 2010, falling twenty points to -7.8. The new orders and shipments indexes also posted steep declines and fell below zero.

The six-month outlook was notably less optimistic in June than in May. The future general business conditions index fell thirty points, reaching 22.5, its lowest level since early 2009.

------------------

Greece general strike prompts violent clashes in Athens

Hey hey, let it roll!

umaperegrina said...

p01 said...
Just in case the clusterfsck was not big enough, there's a "level 4" at Nebraska nuclear power plant.

Thanks p01. This is my neck of the woods and I have lots of friends and family in the vicinity.

Here's a broadcast about the incident that includes a lengthy interview with Arnie Gunderson:

http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/52367

or you can find it at youtube. Part 1 is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvvmrB7qEg

A Walk in the Woods said...

@ umaperegrina

thanks for the Gunderson link. The guy is AOK.

Even has a sense of humor. The newscast has workers stacking sand bags to try to keep the water out of the nuclear plant.

Gunderson starts out the interview by saying, "..the words sandbag and nuclear plant should never be in the same sentence..."

haha, ain't that the truth.

Even though the plant was shut down for refueling, there is 20 years of spent fuel rods stored on site.

The flood will continue right through the summer!

Better Bring Out the Big Bad Brains on this one.
_

p01 said...

@A Walk in the Woods
You forgot to mention that CM probably ate them too...

If the BigBadBoys decide for a Nuk'nDuck approach, they will have a heart-stopping surprise when they exit the bunkers...literally.

A Walk in the Woods said...

@ p01

They could have started a fast food franchise featuring Neanderburgers:

McMagnon's

What we're made of...

I'm Lovin' It
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umaperegrina said...

A Walk in the Woods said...

Gunderson starts out the interview by saying, "..the words sandbag and nuclear plant should never be in the same sentence..."

A bit of dark levee levity, I guess.

More worries...risks to the dams upstream. Bernard Shanks of the Resource Renewal Institute believes that "Six dams from Fort Peck in Montana to Gavins Point in South Dakota, authorized by the Flood Control Act of 1944, are in the process of failing at flood control. With spring water levels low, they can hold back more than three years of average Missouri River flow — enough to stop the worst floods and protect 750 miles of the Missouri River valley and heartland cities. This year, that is not the case."

The Looming Missouri Dam Flood

I listened to an Army Corps of Engineers spokesman take umbrage at Shanks' contention, but perhaps the organization that oversaw the levees around New Orleans might not be the best source for reassurance.

Frank said...

@JAL I don't have references to hand. But bonobos and humans had a common ancestor with regular chimps at 6 megayears, and bonobos are still parked in the same genus with chimps (Pan), while we are in a different one (Homo). It took DNA sequencing parse out the sequence of last common ancestors. Macro anatomy makes it look like chimps and bonobos had a more recent common ancestor than humans and either. This is strong circumstantial evidence that it was genus homo rather than genus pan which did the much larger proportion of the evolving over that time.

@p01 wicked pun. (for non-Unix folks, fsck is a Unix command "File System ChecK". It will also attempt to repair problems if you tell it to. If you have to fsck your disks at a cluster level, you are in very deep doo-doo.)

Mike Tanis said...

I live in Amish country where they still grow large families. After the collapse we may be back to growing large extended families for mutual protection as well as the young strong backs needed for subsistence farming.

el gallinazo said...

Jal

Of course I was not implying that bonobos had stopped evolving and the split I mentioned would be from a common ancestor. Most of the timing comes from mitochondrial DNA comparisons, though, in the last 15 years, there have been big advances in the use of the Y chromosome, at least in studying human migrations over the past 60,000 years. I only have a few vague snippets in my memory about chimp evolution after the split.

AWITW

Regarding your chronology of recent human evolution, while it ties in nicely with your opinion of the current moral status of the species, it is highly conjectural. A few points, but I don't want to get into a serious thread on this. Just rebut this posting and we will leave it.

Modern humans evolved in Africa - there is little doubt of that from the fossil evidence. Modern humans and Neanderthals lived side by side in the middle east, Palestine in particular, for many thousands of years without either side exterminating the other. Neanderthals had brains larger than modern humans though shaped differently. Their linguistic abilities are unknown. William Golding, in his second novel, The Inheritors, suggested that they were telepathic :-) While there is some pretty good evidence that modern humans wiped out some of the large mammals in North America in the 12,000 year ago range, the evidence in Europe is much weaker during the glacial period. In North America, humans had to wait until the 19th century and the Henry rifle to wipe out the bison, which were both huge and had huge herds until then. Native American humans were really unable to hunt bison effectively if there were no steep cliffs handy until the European introduction of the horse, but even after that, they exercised great restraint. This might indicate that the eradication was more due to European cultural values than endemic human behavior.

Regarding the question of bow and spear, Neanderthals died out over 30,000 years ago and had been on a serious decline for 10,000 years before that, and there is no hard evidence that the bow and arrow existed in Europe prior to 8,000 years ago. There is no factual evidence that modern humans hunted Neanderthals into extinction though it is quite possible. In the Middle East, modern humans and Neanderthals existed side by side as mentioned. Prior to modern human's great leap forward into the Neolithic about 45,000 years ago, the technology of Neanderthals and modern humans was so similar that archeologist could not determine which settlements were which without skeletal remains.

Very recent research coming out the Max Planck institute indicates a small but definite percentage of Neanderthal genes in out current gene pool. I myself am the proud recipient of a brow ridge and knuckles below my knees. So there is a very good chance that Neanderthals were eliminated through love, not war.

I know of no evidence of modern human social groups in Europe extending beyond the clan structure prior to the extinction of the Neanderthal, though I would welcome a link to this evidence.

Finally, you seem to possess a lack of fondness for our species. I, for one, maintain certain strong affections for a few members, and consequently find it cognitively dissonant to condemn the entire species while maintaining these affections. Additionally, I am fond of cats as well, but by the moral standards which you apply to humans, they as well are rather despicable.

p01 said...

el gallinazo said:
So there is a very good chance that Neanderthals were eliminated through love, not war.

It's also possible there was a different kind of love.
Who knows...

Greenpa said...

El. Gal: "Modern humans evolved in Africa - there is little doubt of that from the fossil evidence."

Well- but- bear in mind that about 90% of all digging for human fossils has been in Africa- the broad presence of erectus across Asia, and prior species- makes me wonder.

"Additionally, I am fond of cats.."

ah, but; are you THIS fond of cats?

http://tinyurl.com/3pa7lgc

I do encourage all to watch that video to completion. For one thing, you'll learn the current value and meaning of an MBA.

Greenpa said...

Frank: "Macro anatomy makes it look like chimps and bonobos had a more recent common ancestor than humans and either"

I happen to be privy to some unpublished research, where the worker examined pretty much the entire range of bonobo skeletons available for study in world museums.

He found a considerable range in "morphology". On one end, the populations were smaller, hence the early name of "dwarf chimpanzee" for bonobos; and generally looked chimpish.

On the other end; the skeletons were taller- and most closely resembled...

Australopithecus- the gracile ones.

Really. Though when I stared at the comparisons, and asked "Are you telling me Australopithecus is still alive????" = which is what it looked like to me- the researcher backed away in horror at the possibility of making that statement publicly. He wouldn't dare, and I can understand why.

But it sure looked that way to me.

scrofulous said...

Interesting to watch this morning CNN run all around the shop talking on how much Greece needs another bailout but never mentioning the reason why all those Greeks are in the square protesting their guts out about this.

Okay,CNN doesn't seem able to do a quick sound bite on this so who here can do that in , say, 21 words or less, you know twitter size?

Phlogiston Água de Beber said...

Greenpa said ...
I do encourage all to watch that video to completion. For one thing, you'll learn the current value and meaning of an MBA.

Greenpa, what you doin' shoppin' on eHarmony anyway?

Paraphrasing Arnie Gundersen, the words value and MBA should never appear in the same sentence. The video certainly does demonstrate that one need not be emotionally even close to stable to get one.

If Australopithicus is still alive, then maybe there could be another chance someday at a homid that isn't so damned dangerous.

@ AWitW

Your tale of two Homos may well contain some conjecture, but it sure is entertaining reading and I mostly agree, without feeling hatred BTW, that HSS probably is a biological Bridge Too Far. It is open to question how long it can continue to survive encounters with itself. That Big Brain does seem to harbor some very unfortunate biases with regard to what things should and should not be done. Nuclear power plants being one obvious example.

el gallinazo said...

Big things happening in Greece today. Stay tuned. Euro sinking. Dollar rising. Stock markets plummeting. Strong dollar bad for the S&P500. Looks like Brian Sack had to put down his pastrami on rye to goose the market around 12:30. Hope he didn't get mustard on those supercomputers - they are finicky.

Greenpa

I subscribe, but not fanatically, to the triple exodus theory out of Africa.

1) An early and primitive Homo erectus
2) Modern humans
3) Moses and the stones (tablets)

The erectus guys probably died out as well as some evolved into Neanderthals in Asia.

Re bonobos and australopithecines

Aren't the former basically quadupedal and the later were thoroughly bipedal? This would be a really big deal. No? Was the gracile bonobo pelvic structure bipedal?

Where did you get that video? I am shocked. eHarmony told me they destroyed it. BTW, that was me before my sex change operation. Figured I'd do better as a male cat lover.

Greenpa said...

"Greenpa, what you doin' shoppin' on eHarmony anyway?"

OMG, I didn't think of that question. :-)

Nope, wasn't; my accountant sent me that video, which she picked up from a Facebook buddy. Really! Honest!

Greenpa said...

El Gal: if you google "bipedal bonobo" and hit "videos" - there are a bunch. This one is nice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0tAQcpLILQ

What we know about australopithecine behavior is based on skeletons, of course- and the actual number of skeletons in hand is not huge. There's always a range.

The most australopithecine like bonobo skeleton was not identical to aus- but it was way more similar to aus than to the bonobos on the other end of the range; that was what really nailed me.

Greenpa said...

Sooner or later, Ilargi is going to come in here with "ok enough monkey business, kids..."

Phlogiston Água de Beber said...

Greenpa,

I hear he's kind of knee deep in monkey business himself right now. :)

I sure hope Spice buys that story about the accountant. ;)

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p01 said...

I thought MBAs would be more in tune with money. Serves me right to make ridiculous assumptions and generalizations.