"Looking up Market Street from near Ferry", San Francisco in the aftermath of the earthquake and fire
Stoneleigh: Our most consistent theme here at The Automatic Earth has been the developing deflationary environment and the knock-on effects that will follow as a result. Now that the rally from March 2009 appears to be well and truly over, it is time to revisit aspects of the bigger picture, in order for people to prepare for a full-blown liquidity crunch. October 2007-March 2009 was merely a taster.
As we have explained before, inflation and deflation are monetary phenomena - respectively an increase and decrease in the supply of money plus credit relative to available goods and services - and are major drivers of price movements. They are not the only price drivers, to be sure, but they are usually the most significant. People generally focus on nominal prices, when understanding price drivers is far more important. A focus merely on nominal price also obscures what is happening to affordability - the comparison between price and purchasing power.
We have lived through some 30 years of inflationary times, since the financial liberalization of the early 1980s under Reagan and Thatcher initiated the era of globalization. Money freed from capital controls was free to look for opportunities worldwide, and the resulting global economic boom greatly increased trade, resource consumption, financial interconnectedness and the multiplier effect for monetary expansion.
The increased purchasing power that resulted, largely for the better off, found its way into asset markets around the world, allowing people to bid up prices. This created a psychological 'wealth effect', which spawned an orgy of consumption through borrowing against rising nominal assets values. This in turn led to greater monetary expansion, since money is lent into existence. Fractional reserve banking, securitization, the enormous expansion of the shadow banking system and many other factors acted as engines of monetary expansion.
This spiral of positive feedback started slowly, but gradually morphed into a global mania of epic proportions. Caution was thrown to the wind, debt expanded exponentially, risk multiplied, wealth concentration increased with higher returns to capital and consumption became almost frenetic where increasing purchasing power supported it. At the same time, rising consumer prices put increasing pressure on the less privileged, who were forced to compete for basic necessities becoming ever more expensive. As we have seen in a number of places, this has been a major ingredient in the development of social unrest. High prices, and fear of both higher prices and actual shortages, can be socially explosive.
Rising prices are not themselves inflation, as we have repeatedly explained, but are the result of it. Credit expansions create excess claims to underlying real wealth through the creation of artificial, or virtual, value. They also bring demand forward, increasing pressure on resources for the duration of the expansion period. Extrapolating consumption trends forwards linearly leads to fear of shortages, which encourages market participants to bid up prices speculatively.
However, being based on Ponzi dynamics, credit expansions and speculative manias are naturally self-limiting. Credit expansions proceed until the debt they generate can no longer be serviced, and there are no more willing borrowers and lenders to continue lending money into existence. Speculative manias continue until the greatest fool has committed himself to the exhausted trend, and no one remains to push prices up further.
As an expansion develops, one can generally expect increasing upward pressure on commodity prices, thanks to both demand stimulation and latterly the perception that prices can only continue to increase. The resulting crescendo of fear - of impending shortages - is accompanied by the parabolic price rise typical of speculative bubbles, as momentum chasing creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the point where almost everyone with the capacity to do so has jumped on the bandwagon, and all agree that the upward trend is set in stone, a trend change is typically imminent.
We find ourselves still near the peak of the largest credit bubble in history. As faith in many of the more spurious 'asset' classes devised by 'financial innovation' has been shaken, faith in the ever increasing value of commodities has strengthened. However, commodities are not immune to the effects of a shift from credit expansion to credit contraction, despite justifications for endless price rises, such as apparently bottomless demand from China and the other BRIC countries.
Every bubble is accompanied by the story that it is different this time, that this time prices are justified by fundamentals which can only propel prices ever upwards. It is never different this time, no matter what rationalizations exist for speculative fervour. BRIC demand only appears to be insatiable if we make our predictions solely by extrapolating past trends, but that approach leaves us blind to trend changes and therefore vulnerable to running off a cliff. Insatiable demand results from seemingly endless cheap credit, given that demand is not what one wants, but what one can pay for. When credit collapses, so will demand, and with it the justification for higher prices.
While credit expansion (inflation) is a powerful driver of increasing prices, credit contraction (deflation) is a far more powerful driver of decreasing prices. Credit, having no substance, is subject to abrupt fear-driven disappearance. Confidence and liquidity are synonymous, and confidence is once again evaporating quickly, as it did in phase one of the credit crunch (October 2007-March 2009). As contraction picks up momentum, the loss of credit will rapidly lead to liquidity crunch, drastically undermining price support for almost everything. With purchasing power in sharp retreat, however, lower prices will not lead to greater affordability. Purchasing power typically falls faster than price under such circumstances, so that almost everything becomes less affordable even as prices fall.
Credit expansion reversed in 2008, and this is deflation by definition. Despite the talked-up attempts to monetize debt through quantitative easing - a deliberate attempt to stoke inflation fears in order to counteract the psychology of deflation - money plus credit has been in net contraction. Talk of monetary growth based on only the money fraction misses the elephant in the room, since the vast majority of the effective money supply is credit, and the tightening of credit is by far the dominant factor.
As one can see from the graph, credit reversal had not occurred for decades until 2008. Now that it has done so, we can expect significant consequences to follow. There is a constellation of trends that had been correlated with the ebb and flow of liquidity, for instance increasing equities and commodities and a falling dollar. The end of the recent large counter-trend rally has already seen equities and commodities begin to fall, and a reversal in the fortunes of the dollar is very likely in the not too distant future. A look at long term charts of the various different commodities demonstrate both the parabolic run up in prices since 2009, and the beginnings of price retreat. This is likely to be a top that lasts for quite some time in a persistent deflationary environment, at least for the less essential factors.
Food and energy price falls come as a surprise to many, given that both are necessities in a very heavily populated world. Energy is the master resource, and net energy analysis demonstrates that supply can no longer increase meaningfully, hence the commonly held opinion that prices can only move in one direction. However, that opinion also held sway in 2008 during a previous speculative episode, and a closer look at oil prices reveals that that period ended in typical bubble fashion, with a sharp fall following the parabolic rise.
At the time, we were warning that exactly this scenario would unfold, which was an unpopular opinion. The secondary bubble formed in the price run up from 2009 is destined to end the same way, with a fall to a lower level than the 2009 bottom. Supply problems further down the line will ensure that the bottom is strictly temporary, and that future price spikes are in the cards, but that is tomorrow's issue rather than today's.
Of all the commodity bubbles, it is the end of the explosive rise in gold that is set to surprise the largest number of people. Very few expect it to follow silver's lead, but that is exactly what we are suggesting.
Gold has been increasingly considered to be the ultimate safe haven. The certainty has been so great that prices rose by hundreds of dollars an ounce in a blow-off top over a mere two months. The speculative reversal currently underway should be rapid and devastating for the True Believers in gold's ability to defy gravity eternally. Expect to hear all about the enormous Ponzi scheme in paper gold, and a lot more about plated tungsten masquerading as gold. It doesn't even matter whether or not that rumour is true. What matters is whether or not people believe it, and how it could feed into a spiral of fear as prices fall.
Central banks are buying gold, which some consider to be a major vote of confidence, and therefore bullish for gold prices. However, it is instructive to look at the previous behaviour of central banks in relation to gold prices. When gold hit its low point eleven years ago, after a long and drawn out decline, central bankers were selling, in an atmosphere where gold was dismissed as a mere industrial metal of little interest, or even as a 'barbarous relic'.
Selling by central banks, which are always one of the last parties to act on developing received wisdom, was actually a very strong contrarian signal that gold was bottoming. They would not have been selling if they had anticipated a major price run up, but central banks are reactive rather than proactive, and often suffer from considerable inertia. As a result they tend to be overtaken by events. Regarding them as omnipotent directors and acting accordingly is therefore very dangerous.
Now we are seeing the opposite scenario. After eleven years of increasingly sharp rise, central banks are finally buying, and they are doing so at a time when the received wisdom is that gold will continue to reach for the sky. Once again, central banks are issuing a strong contrarian signal, this time in the opposite direction. While commentators opine that central banks will hold their gold even if they develop an urgent need for cash, this is highly unlikely. In a deflationary environment, it is cash that is scarce, and cash that everyone, including central bankers, will be chasing. Selling gold to raise cash may well not be a matter of choice.
Typically a speculative bubble is followed by the reversal of speculation causing prices to fall, and then by falling demand, which undermines prices further. As the bubble unwinds, people begin to jump on a new bandwagon in the opposite direction, chasing momentum as always. The need to access cash by selling whatever can be sold (rather than what one might like to sell), and the on-going collapse of the effective money supply as credit tightens mercilessly, will also factor into the developing vicious circle.
Gold has been considered money for thousands of years, and will hold its value over the long term. However, this does not preclude a huge downward move in the shorter term, and for those forced to sell early, there is no longer term perspective. Spot prices will fall, but those with no bargaining power will get much less than the spot price if they are forced to sell into what is likely to be the ultimate buyers market during the next few years. They will never be able to buy back into the market, and would generally have been better off holding the cash that will appreciate in value for the few years of the credit collapse. Only those who can genuinely hold gold for the duration of the deleveraging, without having to rely on the value it represents in the meantime, will really be able to use it as a store of value.
We stand on the verge of a precipice. The effects of the first real liquidity crunch for decades will be profound. We are going to see prices fall across the board, but far fewer will be able to afford goods or assets at those lower prices than can currently afford them at today's lofty levels. The social effects of this will be enormous, and will spread to many more countries. The collapse of our credit pyramid will be the driving factor and it will sweep all before it like a hurricane for at least the next several years. Beware.
How Long Can the ECB Prop Up Europe’s Sick Banks?
by Simon Kennedy and Gavin Finch - BusinessWeek
The region’s banks may have so much bad debt they won’t even lend to each other
Four years to the month since the global credit crisis began, the European Central Bank has emerged as the lender of first resort to the Continent’s broken banks. With the bond market shut off to all but the strongest lenders, the ECB’s unlimited loans are keeping the most afflicted banks in Greece, Portugal, Italy, and Spain afloat. "Banks are becoming more nervous about being exposed to other banks as they hoard liquidity and become more suspicious of other banks’ balance sheets," Guillaume Tiberghien, an analyst at Exane BNP Paribas, wrote in a note to clients on Aug. 19.
On that date, banks deposited €105.9 billion ($152 billion) with the ECB overnight, almost three times this year’s average, rather than lend the money to other banks. They are also stockpiling dollars and hoarding cash in safe havens such as Swiss francs. "I’m not sleeping at night," says Charles Wyplosz, director of the Geneva-based International Center for Money and Banking Studies. "We have moved into a new phase of crisis."
Investors are concerned, too. The price of European bank stocks sank 22 percent between Aug. 1 and Aug. 22, led by Royal Bank of Scotland (down 45 percent) and France’s Société Générale (down 39 percent). The extra yield investors demand to buy bank bonds instead of benchmark government debt surged to 2.98 percentage points on Aug. 19, the highest since July 2009, data compiled by Bank of America Merrill Lynch show.
Despite the ECB’s best efforts, some of Europe’s banks may be inching toward insolvency. The cost of insuring the bonds of 25 European banks and insurers set a record high on Aug. 24 of 257 basis points, higher than the 149 basis-point spike when Lehman Brothers collapsed in the fall of 2008, according to the Markit iTraxx Financial Index of credit default swaps. The banks aren’t required to mark down most of their holdings of government debt to market prices. If they did, some would be forced to default or seek a bailout.
Morgan Stanley (MS) estimates that Europe’s banks need to raise €80 billion by yearend. Their ability to raise capital has been sharply curbed by investor fears. Banks in the region hold €98.2 billion of Greek sovereign debt, €317 billion of Italian government debt, and about €280 billion of Spanish bonds, according to European Banking Authority data.
The Federal Reserve, which provided as much as $1.2 trillion of loans to banks in December 2008, wound down most of its emergency programs by early 2010. One of the few exceptions is the central bank liquidity swap lines that provide dollars to the ECB and other central banks, so they can auction off the dollars to banks in their own jurisdictions.
In contrast, the ECB and its president, Jean-Claude Trichet, are still in the bank-rescuing business. "The central bank is the only clearer left to settle funds between banks," says Christoph Rieger, head of fixed-income strategy at Commerzbank in Frankfurt. After increasing its benchmark rate twice this year to counter inflation, the ECB in August provided relief for banks by buying Italian and Spanish bonds for the first time, lending unlimited funds for six months and even providing one unnamed bank with badly needed dollars.
The ECB is maintaining a role it began in August 2007 when it injected cash into markets after they froze. The ECB’s balance sheet is now 73 percent bigger than in August 2007, and its latest round of bond buying has opened it to accusations that by rescuing profligate nations it’s breaking a rule of the euro’s founding treaty and undermining its credibility.
The central bank is acting in part because governments have yet to ratify a plan to extend the scope of a €440 billion rescue facility so it can buy sovereign bonds on the open market, which would allow governments to inject capital into the banks. Although the euro zone member governments are supposed to approve the new funding by fall, no one can say for sure.
The funding difficulties of Europe’s banks is one reason cited by Morgan Stanley economists on Aug. 17 for cutting their forecast for euro-area growth to 0.5 percent next year, less than half the 1.2 percent previously anticipated. Europe’s consumers and companies are more reliant on banks for funding than their U.S. counterparts, says Tobias Blattner, a former ECB economist now at Daiwa Capital Markets Europe in London.
Lena Komileva, Group of 10 strategy head at Brown Brothers Harriman in London, says the ECB may have no option but to extend the backstop role it is playing. Refusal to do so would risk a European bank default by the end of the year, she says: "Markets are back in uncharted territory. The crisis is a whole new story now."
The bottom line: Some European banks hold almost half a trillion euros in questionable government bonds. They’re relying on ECB funding to stay in business.
US funds show true state of eurozone banks
by Gillian Tett - FT
In any murder mystery film, it pays to watch the boring grey man (or woman) in the corner; quiet, unobtrusive characters can be deadly.
So, too, in finance. Four years ago, the giant US money market funds seemed some of the dullest actors in the global financial scene. But in 2007, they quietly helped to spark the crisis in the mortgage-backed securities world, when they silently stopped rolling over bonds. Then, in 2008, they furtively wielded the knife again, pulling funding from some American banks and the "repo" – repurchase – markets.
Now, their shadow looms again. As my colleagues Dan McCrum, Telis Demos and Jennifer Hughes have reported, in recent weeks these funds have been quietly backing away from European banks, either refusing to roll over loans, or slashing the maturities of the funds they provide. Fitch, for example, recently calculated that the largest US money market funds cut their exposure in absolute terms by $30bn in July, even before the latest turmoil.
Separately, bankers estimate that Italian banks lost the equivalent of €40bn-worth of money market funding in July. And while money market funds are still lending to French banks, the duration of deals has shrivelled dramatically, from several months to just a few weeks (at most). This matters, since French banks rely on money markets for about €200bn of funding.
Now, the good news is that these raw numbers are small compared to the total volume of money that eurozone banks raise in the wholesale and interbank markets, which is around €8,000bn. Better still, the European Central Bank has stepped into the gap to replace those vanishing funds. That has kept the system running, even as funding costs for eurozone banks have exploded to a level which are "massively prohibitive" – and thus unsustainable – for most banks, as Suki Mann, analyst at Société Générale says.
But it is worth watching what those money market funds do next. For one thing, their antics tend to have a powerful impact on market psychology, particularly given folk market memories of 2008. Secondly, this quiet exodus has reminded US and European investors alike of something that policymakers have hitherto tended to downplay: namely the rather surprising degree to which eurozone banks depend on short term financing.
Morgan Stanley, for example, calculates that of the €8,000bn funding that is currently in place for the largest 91 eurozone banks, some 58 per cent needs to be rolled over in the next two years. More startling still, some 47 per cent of this funding is less than a year in duration. Much of that is in euros.
However, as the saga of the money market funds shows, eurozone banks have been raising short-term dollar funds too, either to finance their portfolios of dollar assets, or to provide a cheap form of funding (which is then swapped back into euros.) The scale of this reliance is – thankfully – not nearly as large as it was in, say, 2007; back then eurozone banks had a vast network of dollar-funded mortgage vehicles, creating a funding mismatch that was about $800bn, according to the Bank for International Settlements. Nevertheless, some element of this mismatch remains; hence the current crunch.
Is there any solution? In the long term, some eurozone banks probably need to rethink some of their funding profile. In the short term, however, Huw van Steenis, an analyst at Morgan Stanley, has recently been promoting another interesting idea: eurozone authorities should offer joint guarantees for debt issued by banks, as a form of "circuit breaker" to counteract panic.
After all, the argument goes, the US offered such guarantees during its banking crisis, with considerable success. So did the UK. And if the eurozone authorities were to repeat this trick across the region – say by using funding from the European financial stability facility, supplemented with a fee recouped from banks – it might well tempt money market funds (and others) back. After all most US money market funds are frantic to find somewhere – anywhere – safe to stash their cash, other than US Treasuries.
Will this happen? Don’t bet on it soon. After all, the official line from the eurozone policy world is that nothing is really wrong with the eurozone banks; thus they do not want to introduce crisis measures that echo 2008. Nor do they want to start arguing about how to price or fund any such guarantees, since that might force them to state which banks – and national banking systems – look risky.
But if the unease stalking the eurozone banking system does not dissipate soon, the concept of such "circuit breakers" should certainly be put on the table. And in the meantime, better keep watching those money market funds like a hawk; if nothing else, they are a powerful litmus test of just how much (or little) "credit" those eurozone banks can still attract on the world stage. In both the Latin and English sense of the word.
Bank job cuts top 60,000
by Harry Wilson - Telegraph
ABN Amro has become the latest bank to announce thousands of staff cuts as the total number of jobs lost in the banking sector in recent months rose above 60,000.
The Dutch bank said it will cut 2,350 staff, or just under 10pc of its workforce, over the next three to four years as part of a wholesale restructuring of its business designed to saved hundreds of millions of euros in costs.
Taking the cuts announced by ABN into account, the total number of banking sector job losses announced in recent months now exceeds 60,000 or roughly 5pc of the industry headcount. ABN said 1,500 jobs would be cut through redundancies and a further 850 through natural attrition, costing the bank €200m (£176m) in restructuring costs, according to its financial results for the first half of the year published today.
Earlier this week, UBS confirmed speculation that it was to cut several thousand jobs, announcing the layoff of 3,500 staff, or which about 300 are expected to come from the bank’s London office. All of Britain’s major banks, with the exception of Standard Chartered, have already cut or are cutting thousands of staff. Barclays has already cut 1,400 staff this year and plans to cut as many as 3,000 more jobs within the next 18 months.
HSBC has announced the cull of about 30,000 staff by the end of 2013, or about one in 10 jobs, as part of its own cost drive, and state-backed lender Royal Bank of Scotland is expected to reduce the workforce in its investment banking division by 2,000 within the next year.
The largest cuts have come as Lloyds Banking Group, which announced 15,000 "role reductions" as part of its strategy review, which will take the total number of jobs lost at the lender since its taxpayer bailout to about 40,000 – roughly equal to the size of the entire workforce of engineering company Rolls Royce.
"When managements resort to headcount reductions, these are a powerful signal that firms think the revenue outlook has weakened beyond just normal volatility," said analysts at Barclays Capital in a note to clients published this month. Nearly all of Europe's major banks have announced year-on-year falls in revenues for the first half of the year as markets have deteriorated.
U.S. Banks Said to Seek Relief on Ratios, FDIC Fees After Rush of Deposits
by Dakin Campbell, Dawn Kopecki and Bradley Keoun - Bloomberg
U.S. regulators have asked some banks to take more deposits from large investors even if it’s unprofitable, and lenders in return are seeking relief on insurance premiums and leverage ratios, according to six people with knowledge of the talks.
Deposits are flooding into the biggest U.S. banks as customers seek shelter from Europe’s debt crisis and falling stock prices. That forces lenders to raise capital for a growing balance sheet and saddles them with the higher deposit insurance payments. With short-term interest rates so low, it’s hard for financial firms to reinvest the new money profitably.
Regulators have asked banks to take the deposits anyway, three people said, with one lender accepting $100 billion. The regulators want lenders to take the deposits because it improves the stability of the financial system, according to one of the people, who said U.S. banks are viewed as places of strength.
Some of the largest ones have talked with regulators about softening rules for ratios that measure capital and assets, according to the people, who declined to be identified because talks are private. At least one asked for a waiver on paying higher premiums to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which is less likely to be granted, one of the people said.
"If the helicopter comes raining money on your bank and it’s only temporarily there, it could be excessively costly and disruptive," said Robert Litan, a vice president of research and policy at the Kansas City, Missouri-based Kauffman Foundation, which promotes entrepreneurial business practices.
Cash Cache
Cash held by domestically chartered U.S. banks, which includes Federal Reserve balances, rose to a record $1.02 trillion earlier this month, up 27 percent from the end of July last year. Deposits held by the 25 largest lenders expanded to $4.69 trillion in the week ended Aug. 10, up 8.5 percent from the end of May. The Fed’s balances advanced to $1.61 trillion as of Aug. 24, from $1.05 trillion a year earlier.
The extra deposits are problematic because they’re subject to withdrawal, so banks have to park the money in low-yielding short-term investments, Litan said. With few other choices available, banks have stashed their excess deposits at the Fed, which means the cash gets counted as assets.
This expands their balance sheets and thus pushes down their leverage ratio, which measures Tier 1 capital divided by adjusted average total assets; the lower the ratio, the weaker the bank, at least in theory. In reality, regulators regard U.S. lenders as relatively strong with sufficient capital cushions, the people said.
Talks With Regulators
Lenders have held discussions with officials at the Fed, FDIC, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Treasury Department, according to four of the people. Spokesmen for the four agencies declined to comment.
Regulators may decide, for example, to ease curbs on deposits swept in from brokerage affiliates as part of any forbearance, said James Chessen, chief economist at the Washington-based American Bankers Association. Under normal circumstances, those deposits could be restricted as part of an enforcement action by regulators, he said.
"You don’t want costly business decisions driven by these temporary flows and regulators are acknowledging that and acknowledging the limited risk," Chessen said in a phone interview. "Unusual situations naturally call for a discussion on both sides," he added in an e-mail.
While the Fed has been paying 0.25 percent interest on deposits placed with the central bank, known as interest on excess reserves, since late 2008, it may not be enough to erase the cost to banks of holding the deposits, said Robert Eisenbeis, a former head of research at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta and now chief monetary economist for Sarasota, Florida-based Cumberland Advisors Inc.
Charging Depositors
At least one firm, Bank of New York Mellon Corp. , tried to recoup some of the costs by charging depositors 13 basis points, or 0.13 percent, for holding unusually high balances.
FDIC insurance fees for large banks typically average more than 0.1 percent, three of the people said. In addition, large banks also may apply an internal capital charge of at least 0.1 percent to such reserves, one bank executive estimated. Lenders likely reached out to regulators "after having watched what Bank of New York did," Litan said. "I’m sure the banks said there must be another way."
If the FDIC agreed to forgive some fees, it would have to give up some of the extra premiums that it’s counting upon to rebuild the Deposit Insurance Fund, which covers customers for $250,000 per account in the event of a failure. That makes the agency unlikely to grant a waiver, one of the people said, adding that the existence of the insurance is one of the reasons banks are able to attract the deposits.
Insurance Fund
The FDIC’s fund, which fell into a deficit of almost $21 billion after a wave of bank failures, turned positive during the second quarter for the first time in two years, the agency reported this week. On April 1, the FDIC changed its formula for assessing premiums, increasing the cost for most large banks and adding to their deposit expenses.
That’s adding to the pinch on bank profits as revenue shrinks and yields on assets decline. Net interest margins, the difference between what banks pay to borrow and what they make on loans and securities, declined in the second quarter, "reflecting growth in low-yielding balances at Federal Reserve banks," the FDIC said Aug. 23 in its quarterly report.
European Crisis
U.S. deposits may surge again if Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis escalates and the region’s lenders face a funding squeeze. Most of JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s almost $53 billion in new deposits in the second quarter were tied to Europe, according to Pri de Silva, a New York-based analyst at CreditSights Inc. "If you are a bank you don’t want to use excess capital for these hot-money deposits," de Silva said.
Shares of the 24 U.S. firms in the KBW Bank Index have declined 28 percent this year. The second-worst performer in the index, Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America Corp., lost half its value in 2011 before rebounding this week. Most lenders already have capital cushions well above the minimum of 5 percent that would trigger an order from regulators for corrective action, according to one of the people.
The Tier 1 leverage ratio for Bank of America, the largest U.S. lender, was 6.86 percent at the end of June, while JPMorgan stood at 7 percent, according to second-quarter regulatory filings. Citigroup Inc.’s leverage ratio was 7.05 percent at the end of June, and San Francisco-based Wells Fargo & Co.’s was 9.43 percent. Citigroup and JPMorgan are based in New York.
Changing Assets
If Citigroup’s average total assets changed by $1 billion, it would alter the leverage ratio by 0.4 basis points, while a $100 million change in Tier 1 capital would affect the leverage ratio by half a basis point, according to the bank’s second- quarter filing.
Relaxing the rules or enforcement could be a slippery slope, said Lou Crandall, chief economist at Wrightson ICAP LLC, a Jersey City, New Jersey-based unit of London-based ICAP Plc, the world’s largest inter-dealer broker. "Asking for a free pass on the leverage ratio for bank deposits by itself isn’t something that regulators would consider," Crandall said. "The question is whether banks should be able to exclude reserve balances since they are a risk-free asset."
UBS may start to charge banks for holding Swiss francs
by Reuters
Bank clients that keep large balances in the safe-haven currency will pay for the privilege
Swiss bank UBS may charge client banks a fee on cash accounts they use to clear transactions, it said on Friday, in a move to discourage them from using the accounts to hoard safe-haven Swiss francs. "Should we see a continuation of the net inflow of francs in cash clearing accounts of our banking customers, we might have to take corrective action … by means of a temporary excess balance fee," it said.
After record demand for the franc, UBS said it was monitoring franc cash balances in the current accounts of its franc clearing customers. The news helped the euro climb more than 2% against the franc to a one-month high . "This is a way to make investors pay for the privilege of owning the currency," said David Miller, fund manager at Cheviot Asset Management in London.
The move came amid speculation that Switzerland might consider imposing negative interest rates on Swiss franc deposits as it fights a surge in the franc to record highs against the dollar and euro this month.
Banks face $340 billion state-backed bond refi hole
by Helene Durand - IFR/Reuters
* Tough new issue markets could curtail banks' pre-funding plans
* New investors likely needed to replace government-guaranteed debt holders
* Concentrated refinancing burden poses additional risks
Banks will struggle to refinance the upcoming mountain of government-guaranteed debt that is due to mature in the next two years unless the primary market fully thaws in the coming weeks, according to bankers and investors. Banks had planned to aggressively use the autumn period to get ahead of large refinancing requirements in 2012.
Thomson Reuters data show that the USD230bn equivalent of European bank government-guaranteed debt will mature in 2012 and US banks will have more than USD122bn maturing. Governments started guaranteeing banks' debt issuance in September 2008 as capital and money markets froze after the failure of Lehman Brothers on September 15th. Most of the guarantees had a three-year maturity, although Spain and France allowed banks to issue up to five years.
"The wall of upcoming maturing government-guaranteed debt is a concern, especially if the current market freeze goes on for much longer and spills over into 2012," said Martin Lukac, financials credit analyst at Principal Global Investors. "If you look back, the government-guaranteed schemes were all established around the same time and were limited in terms of maturities which means that a lot of them are coming up at the same time, making the banks' maturity profile very frontloaded," said Lukac.
Pressure has built up in the financial sector. In recent weeks, fears that the euro zone sovereign debt crisis will spill over into banks has seen U.S. money market funds start to rein back the maturities they are willing to lend to them. "Bank treasurers know that next year is a big year for government-guaranteed refinancing and part of the reason why some of the larger funders in the market did so much at the beginning of this year was because a lot of them wanted to pre-fund some of next year's maturities in the autumn," Robert Kendrick, financials credit analyst at L&G.
"This was to mitigate a concentrated refinancing burden over the next couple of years, brought on by most government-guaranteed issuance being limited to 2012 or 2013, rather than being more evenly spread," said David Loughran, debt syndicate at Lloyds Capital Markets. The two biggest bank funding avenues, senior debt and covered bond issuance, have been largely shut since early July. "The problem is, issuance has now ground to a halt, and even if they were ahead at the end of June, they might now struggle to complete this year's funding," said Kendrick.
Market Shut Down
According to Thomson Reuters data, a mere USD7bn equivalent of senior was raised by European banks in July while the tally for August is even lower at just over USD1bn equivalent. This compounded poor volumes in June when USD17.4bn was sold, well below May' s figure at USD41.2bn. It's a similar story for the normally resilient covered bond sector, where ING Bank's announcement on Wednesday that it was planning a 10-year euro offering was the first benchmark launched since early July when EUR8.1bn was raised. So far, the tally for the whole of August is a mere EUR1.2bn.
Financial indices have performed very poorly in recent weeks, according to Markit, its Senior Financial index hit a record wide of 260bp on Tuesday. It is not just a matter of the large refinancing size that will be a challenge. Another will be finding investors in bank debt.
"A problem that bank treasuries have been working to avoid is a number of the people who bought government-guaranteed debt won't buy anything else," said Lloyds's Loughran. "So it's not as if the market will get a liquidity event and have cash to put to work in bank paper. For some of these investors, even a Triple A RMBS or covered bond won't necessarily float their boat."
Banks' pursuit of new investors will be hindered by fears of haircuts on senior debt: the debate on senior bondholder bail-in will return in the autumn when the European Commission releases its legislative framework on banks' resolution and recovery.
Meanwhile, investors are likely to demand higher premiums in order to protect from volatility as good new issue performance is not guaranteed given the market backdrop and the lack of solution to the European sovereign crisis. "If we were to see a new issue from a bank, the issuer would have to offer a substantial new issue premium," said Lukac. "We would also expect demand for new deals to be diminished given that US-based accounts are currently not adding European risk and this can really be felt in the market."
L&G's Kendrick added that said that while some of the current concerns in the market were somewhat unjustified, he would be reluctant to put cash to work right now. "Selling a senior deal is very hard right now and in order to buy, we would need to have confidence that a deal will perform and not be 50bp wider the following week," he said.
While the refinancing numbers drop off dramatically in 2013 and 2014, European banks' still have USD41bn and more than USD94bn coming up to maturity in 2013 and 2014. Furthermore, as much as USD63.8bn of European government-guaranteed bank debt is maturing before year-end and USD49.5bn for US banks.
More Transparent Bank Stress Tests Are Needed
by Simon Johnson - New York Times
Europe and the United States both need to conduct another round of stress tests on their banks, with a model similar to what was done in the United States in 2009, but with a more negative downside scenario — in particular, assessing the effects of a major sovereign debt problem in the euro zone.
The point of such a scenario is to determine how much equity financing banks need to have if the world economy turns ugly. If the big banks raise more capital in advance, we are less likely to see economic downturn again become financial catastrophe.The prevailing wisdom about Europe is that it faces primarily liquidity problems. In this view, a few of the larger countries have had trouble rolling over their debts, and some leading banks need help with short-term financing. The European Central Bank can assist with both by buying government bonds and lending to banks and, in the most optimistic interpretation, the consequent political discussions will help strengthen European Union integration.
There are two problems with this positive spin on recent events. The first is that sovereign debt problems can easily become solvency issues — that is, more about whether countries can afford to service their debts rather than whether they can raise enough cash at reasonable rates in any given week. The key issue is growth — if Italy, Spain and others can show they will grow reasonably quickly, then debt relative to gross domestic product will decline, and rosy projections will be back in fashion.
But if signs of growth do not return soon, perhaps over three to six months, the next downward revision to forecasts will spread deeper debt pessimism. And any markdown for global growth prospects, including for reasons outside Europe’s control (such as overheating in China’s residential property market), would also not be helpful over the coming year. My Peterson Institute policy paper with Peter Boone in July suggested some potential escape routes, but the summer so far has produced only further attempts to muddle through.The more immediate Achilles heel is banking. The virtues of big European banks were extolled by some Congressional representatives during the Dodd-Frank legislation in spring 2010. What a difference a year makes; not many members of Congress would today endorse anything about European banking, given all the problems that have emerged.
The main immediate problem for Europe is that we still don’t know exactly the condition of its major financial institutions. The Europeans have run bank stress tests twice recently, in mid-2010 and again earlier this year. But in both cases the tests were far too lenient and banks were not required to raise enough capital.
They should have been compelled to increase their equity funding relative to their debt, in order to create a greater buffer against future losses.
The 2009 banking stress tests in the United States can also be criticized for not including a scenario that was sufficiently negative. In recent weeks the market has expressed great skepticism about Bank of America, its inherited liabilities, future business model and, most of all, the adequacy of its capital.
Most likely, Bank of America needs to be broken up, with the continuing businesses funded with equity to a level that could withstand adverse legal outcomes and a deep recession. Warren Buffett’s investment in the bank, announced this morning, may be in a step in the right direction. (For more background on how to think about bank equity, see the recent testimony of Paul Pfleiderer to the financial institutions subcommittee of the Senate Banking Committee; anyone working on banking policy in Europe or the United States should read this.)
Dodd-Frank created pre-emptive intervention powers, at the behest of Treasury and the Federal Reserve, with part of the rationale being that these could be used to prevent a megabank’s slow death spiral from becoming a market panic.
In “13 Bankers,” James Kwak and I expressed considerable skepticism that this could work — it just does not fit with the history and politics of regulation in the United States, within which even the Treasury secretary defers to what Bloomberg News calls the "Wall Street Aristocracy."
The American 2009 Supervisory Capital Assessment Program, known as SCap (pronounced ESS-cap), was designed to reveal potential stressed capital levels and, as a result, the 19 companies covered by SCap have since increased their common equity by more than $300 billion.
Unfortunately, weakness at Bank of America generates systemic risk, undermines overall market confidence and magnifies the risk of another recession; this is exactly what SCap is supposed to have avoided — but failed to do because it was not sufficiently tough.
The Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review stress tests, known as CCar (pronounced SEE-car), concluded in April 2011, were even less helpful. These were much less transparent, focused more on companies’ internal capital planning processes. The Fed did sensitivity analysis of the companies’ own stress tests; this is not exactly reassuring, given how badly the industry’s own models have failed in the recent past — including in the events that led up to the Fed’s $1.2 trillion of emergency loans in 2008.
Yet the European stress tests to date must be rated a notch or three below even the CCar in terms of transparency and communication of information that allows market participants to make informed decisions. The latest round, conducted by the European Banking Authority through July 15, did not even examine what would happen if a sovereign borrower had to restructure its debts — exactly what Greece was working on during the same time frame. (To be precise, there was some "sovereign stress" in the tests but very little compared with what we have seen and could see.)
This is worse than embarrassing. It creates exactly the wrong kind of uncertainty around European megabanks, including their operations in the United States and potential spillover effects.
In part this happened because the European Banking Authority is new — it came into existence on Jan. 1 — and not sufficiently powerful relative to national bank supervisors, many of whom are stuck in an old mindset where transparency is bad and full disclosure of banks’ balance sheets is scary. (The low capital levels of European banks was described more fully this week in a Bloomberg article.)
But partial facts and distorted information flow are exactly what creates fear and instability, not just in Europe but much more broadly.
If euro-zone leaders want to make any progress on governance reform, they should immediately strengthen the banking authority and call for a new round of stress tests. These tests should include a deep recession scenario in Europe, as well as disruptions to sovereign debt financing. At the same time, the Federal Reserve should acknowledge that the CCar was not enough; it’s time for a new round of tough stress tests here, as well.
The notion that bank equity is socially expensive and should be minimized is an idea whose time has passed — as Anat Admati, Peter DeMarzo, Martin Hellwig and Professor Pfleiderer have argued. It is time to find ways to strengthen the equity funding of major financial institutions around the world, quickly, fairly and effectively — a point that was made clear in the recent hearings held by Senator Sherrod Brown, Democrat of Ohio.
Any further delay risks worsening the global slowdown.
Bernanke Is Signaling An Announcement On September 21
by Bruce Krasting - My Take On Financial Events
I went to play golf this morning rather than listen to the Bernankster. After all, I knew what he was going to say. I read about the speech in the Wall Street Journal a day before.
I (and many others) have made note of the fact that the WSJ’s crack reporter, Jon Hilsenrath, is the mouthpiece for Big Ben. This is what Jon said had to say last night. Do you think he talked to Bernanke before he wrote this? (15 hours before speech time)Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke isn’t likely to break much new monetary-policy ground in his Jackson Hole speech Friday
To be sure, a number of others who have a public view on Fed policy also commented that the speech from the Chairman would bring nothing new. But the consistency of Hilsenrath’s words and Bernanke's actions is no coincidence.
If you believe that Hilsenrath gets the whisper from Ben, then you might want to consider what Jon had to say after the speech was delivered:Fed policy makers will be discussing their options at a September policy meeting which has been expanded to two days instead of one to explore whether the Fed should do more.
Jon then quotes from the speech:“The committee is prepared to employ its tools as appropriate to promote a stronger economic recovery.”
Then Jon tips Bernanke’s next move:it is worth remembering, when the Fed has said it is prepared to act during this long-running economic crisis, it generally has acted.
Bernanke is tipping his hand (via Jon) in order to prepare the market for what is to come in a few weeks. This is a heads up to the insiders that more monetary gas is in the works. The stock market’s first reaction to today’s non-event was to sell off hard. But after the word got around that this was just a delay (and a short one at that) stocks caught a bid. Basically, the plan by Bernanke to leak his intentions worked.
I think there are two reasons that Bernanke chose not to announce policy changes at Jackson Hole:
I) He wants it to look to the world (and a few Republican politicians) as if the Fed’s actions are being done only after deep deliberation and discussion. That is why the next meeting has been changed to a two-day format.
There will be a two-day circus of Fed Governors looking very serious. But that is just for the TV audience. This is Ben’s show. He has the votes. He is steering the ship. The decisions have already been made. Ben’s going to do something on 9/21.
II) Ben had to put off announcing more monetary oomph today because there is something that has to happen first. There has to be something that comes out of the EU before Bernanke makes his next move.
I’m not sure what happens next in Europe. I’m of the opinion that something needs to be done, and it needs to be done quickly.
There are a number of things that the ECB could do. They could (1) significantly expand their effort at QE (the number starts at E 1 trillion). They could (2) drop official lending rates close to zero. They could (3) agree to issue E bonds.
Some combination of those actions would buy some more time. The problem is that all of those steps have been discussed and pretty much firmly rejected. There is a fourth option. The strong hands in the EU could give in to the markets and let some of the PIIGS (starting with Greece) float on their own. This option has also been previously rejected.
I think it is time for serious consideration for this. I can’t think of a single person who has a voice in these matters that actually believes that Greece can be saved with more debt. We shall see, possibly as soon as Sunday night.
Yet another option is to get the US Fed into the picture with dramatic draw-downs on existing USD swap lines (Starts with $500 Billion). This is another possibility for this weekend or next.
My last point is one that I have made many times before, but feel obligated to repeat.I flat out hate that this Fed is conducting monetary policy through leaks, a wink and a nod and innuendo.
There is far too much at stake to make a circus out of the process. It feels like we should just put up a tent, because a three-ring circus is what we are getting non-stop. And Bernanke is the strong man in the middle ring.
Big Asset Sale Near at Bank of America
by Nelson D. Schwartz - New York Times
Bank of America is completing plans to sell more than half of its stake in the China Construction Bank in a deal that could raise nearly $10 billion, just a day after Warren E. Buffett invested $5 billion in the beleaguered American financial giant.
A consortium of sovereign wealth funds in Asia and the Middle East as well as several private equity firms are in negotiations with bankers and could close a deal by early next week, two officials briefed on the talks said Friday. While Bank of America plans to sell at least half of its 10 percent stake in the Chinese bank, it is willing to unload much more than that for the right price, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition that they not be named because the sale was still being negotiated.
The sale would improve Bank of America’s capital position under international Basel III regulations. Bank of America’s stock fell by nearly 30 percent earlier this month on investor fears that it would have to sell more shares to raise more capital amid huge losses on soured mortgage securities and a weakening economy.
Mr. Buffett’s investment — and the likely sale of the Chinese stake — have helped allay those worries while reinforcing investor confidence in management, and Bank of America shares rose 1.4 percent to $7.76 a share on Friday. The stock jumped more than 9 percent Thursday on news of Mr. Buffett’s move. A Bank of America spokesman declined to comment.
But if a deal is completed soon, it would also defy speculation that deep-pocketed buyers would be hard to find at a time of intense volatility in the markets and uncertainty about the global economy.
The sale by Bank of America has also been complicated by the fact that other institutions have been selling shares in China Construction and other Chinese banks. In July, Singapore’s state investment fund, Temasek Holdings, sold more than $1 billion worth of shares in the China Construction Bank.
Unloading the Chinese shares represents one more step in reversing the legacy of Bank of America’s former chief executive, Kenneth D. Lewis, who made Bank of America the nation’s largest bank through a long series of acquisitions, some more profitable than others. One in particular, the 2008 purchase of Countrywide Financial, the subprime lender, has been disastrous, costing the bank more than $30 billion.
The investment in the China Construction Bank, which began in 2005, has been much more successful. In its latest filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Bank of America estimated the entire stake was worth almost $19.6 billion, about $10 billion more than it paid. Bank of America owns 25.6 billion shares of China Construction, of which 23.6 billion are covered by a lock-up preventing sales that expires on Monday. A lock-up on the remaining 2 billion shares expires next August.
For Bank of America, unloading the China Construction stake is also part of a broader effort by its chief executive, Brian T. Moynihan, to sell off noncore businesses, strengthen the bank’s capital position and focus on the company’s retail and investment banking operations. Since the start of 2010, Mr. Moynihan has sold more than $30 billion worth of assets, most recently unloading the bank’s Canadian credit card business and a portfolio of commercial real estate. The potential deal was first reported by CNBC.
While Mr. Buffett’s move and the potential sale of China Construction have been greeted positively by investors, the overhang from Countrywide still looms large. In June, Bank of America reached an $8.5 billion settlement with 22 major holders of soured mortgage securities to help cap future repurchase claims. That deal was set to be reviewed by a state court judge in November, but a group of other investors who oppose the settlement filed a notice Friday to move the case to federal court in Manhattan.
If that effort were to ultimately succeed, it could delay resolution of the settlement, but legal experts said permanently moving the venue would not be easy. The trustee for the 22 investors, Bank of New York Mellon, is expected to ask next week that the case be kept in state court. The state court had imposed a deadline of Tuesday for any objections to the agreement.
As Trade Volumes Soar, Exchanges Cash In
by Graham Bowley - New York Times
The latest financial market convulsions have been tough for almost everyone, including traders caught on the wrong side of another big swing and pained everyday investors watching their dwindling holdings go down and up — and down again.
But there is a silver lining to even this latest market horror show, at least for the exchanges where the financial instruments change hands. Businesses like the New York Stock Exchange and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange skim cents off each stock or contract bought or sold over their trading floors or computers. With the daily volumes of financial market contracts sent surging through their systems by nervous traders and investors up by billions, the latest trading rush is directly polishing their bottom line.
The effect, however, may be fleeting. The rising volumes have generally not translated into higher stock prices for the exchanges, and they and some analysts are worried that the volatility and downbeat economic news may frighten away investors in the long term. "Volume is positive on a short-term basis but because it is based on negative macroeconomic factors, these volumes are not necessarily sustainable," said Joseph M. Mecane, executive vice president for cash trading at NYSE Euronext, which operates the New York Stock Exchange.
The latest swings came Friday when the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index fell 2 percent in the morning, but climbed back up in the afternoon to finish 1.5 percent higher, as investors digested remarks by Ben S. Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman, that left the door open to further support for the economy. The Dow Jones industrial average swung about 363 points during the day, closing up 1.2 percent, to 11,284.54.
Across United States stock markets — including the big electronic exchanges like Nasdaq, BATS and Direct Edge — trading volumes so far in the latest quarter are 17 percent ahead of the same period last year, according to figures from Credit Suisse. Volumes have been hitting levels almost double what they normally are at this usually quiet time of year, Mr. Mecane said.
Markets have been sent wild this summer amid a number of exceptional events, like the showdown over the debt ceiling in Washington, the downgrade by the credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s of the United States’ long-term debt on Aug. 5, the global fallout from Europe’s debt crisis and a raft of data pointing to a stalling United States economy. On a couple of days earlier in August, stock market volumes touched about 15 billion daily trades, although volumes are now back to about eight billion or nine billion daily.
The stock exchanges on average charge 3.5 cents for every 100 shares traded, according to Credit Suisse. That has declined in recent years with greater competition between the exchanges, so the pop in volumes is not delivering as much to them in increased profits as it would have just a few years ago. The exchanges have also diversified into other business like providing trading technology to banks. That means revenue from stock and derivatives trading accounts for a smaller proportion of overall income. In the case of Nasdaq, for example, it makes up a third of overall sales.
The exchanges, most of which are public companies, generally will not comment on the effect these increased volumes will have on profits. But analysts like Howard Chen, a financial analyst at Credit Suisse who watches the exchanges, said that because volumes were already tracking 15 to 20 percent above what he had been expecting, earnings should be up a similar amount.
It’s not just the stock market that is experiencing a lift. Traders have been busily betting on interest rates, commodities, currencies and even volatility itself. The Chicago Mercantile Exchange where these and other products like United States Treasury futures are in large part traded has recorded a big pick-up in trading volumes recently.
Aug. 9, for example, was a record day for the Chicago exchange, when nearly 25.7 million contracts were traded, beating the last record, which was during the so-called flash crash on May 6 last year, when 25.3 million contracts were traded, the exchange said. So far during the third quarter, volumes on the Chicago exchange are up 39 percent compared with the same period a year ago, Credit Suisse said.
Futures in gold, oil and the broad stock market index, the S.& P. E-Mini, are all up. In an era when volatility has become the new norm, another instrument that has had a surge in volumes is the Chicago Board Options Exchange Volatility Index. The VIX, as it is known, measures the short-term implied volatility of options on the S.& P. 500. Financial instruments based on the VIX are traded both electronically and in the exchange’s trading pits in Chicago — where there is a special VIX pit, and 60 dedicated VIX traders.
It is also called the fear index, and as the S.& P. 500 has spiraled down and up, VIX futures and options have become a popular tool for all sorts of fearful investors to protect themselves against the swings — and maybe even make a little money. "Volatility in itself is becoming a more popular and investable asset class for institutions and also for retail investors," Mr. Chen said.
Volume in VIX options is up 79 percent and trading in futures on the index soared 290 percent through Aug. 19. Futures trading this month is already a record, surpassing July, which was the next highest. The single busiest day on record was Friday, Aug. 5, when 1,194,468 options contracts were traded. "When volumes are up we do well," said William J. Brodsky, chairman and chief executive of CBOE Holdings.
Mr. Brodsky said the VIX was created with professional investors in mind but is increasingly being embraced by retail investors to protect against volatility. The VIX generally moves in a range of 15 to 50, although it reached 80 during the financial crisis in 2008. Investors worried that their stock holdings were vulnerable to a sell-off in the market, for example, might buy the VIX as protection because the VIX would most likely rise.
Mr. Brodsky said a couple of dozen VIX exchange-traded notes are now offered by banks like Barclays. They were linked to the VIX and aimed at providing easier access for ordinary investors. The strange thing is the heightened market volatility has not been particularly good for the exchanges’ own share prices.
Even as their volumes have rocketed, their own stock prices have languished. While CBOE’s shares are up 7 percent this year, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange’s stock price is down 22 percent. NYSE Euronext’s share price is down 9 percent for the year, and stock in Nasdaq is down 4 percent. "It’s a little odd," Mr. Chen said.
One reason might be that even though volumes have been picking up in recent years, the rates the exchanges charge at least for stock trading have come under pressure. Another reason, according to Mr. Chen, is the possibility — however distant — of a financial transaction tax raised by European policy makers, which would depress trading volumes. But perhaps the biggest reason is that the markets really think this is the "storm before the calm," he said — that soon all this volatility will go away and trading will be becalmed, perhaps even more so than before. That won’t be good news for the exchanges.
Other industry analysts agree. They fear that the big swings will hurt investors’ confidence in the markets and keep them away in the future. The same thing happened last year in the stock market. After the flash crash on May 6 — another time when Europe’s debt crisis was roiling world markets — May and June were busy months, but then volumes slowed markedly, partly because ordinary investors were frightened away, he said.
Stock market volumes increased for six consecutive years between 2004 and 2009 but then fell 13 percent between 2009 and 2010. This year, despite the latest bounce, volumes across the entire stock market are 7 percent lower compared with last year.
High street recession worst for 40 years, says Co-Op chief Peter Marks
by Louise Armitstead - Telegraph
The recession on Britain's high street is the worst for more than 40 years, the boss of the Co-operative Group has claimed, as shares in a trolley-full of retailers plunged.
Peter Marks said that for the first time people have been cutting food budgets - normally an area that is relied upon as "recession-proof". "People are spending less on food – that's a first," said the Co-op's chief executive. He added that he and other retailers are having to cut prices radically to shift stock. While normally around a quarter of products are on promotion, approximately 40pc are discounted at the moment, Mr Marks said. He added: "We're not into 'buy one, get one free' – we're into 'buy one, get two free'."
He added: "It has been a tough six months, the toughest I've ever experienced in my 40 years of retailing. I don't think we have come out of recession since 2008… I've operated through several recessions – this is by far the longest." The Co-Op, which is Britain's fifth biggest supermarket group, unveiled a fall in first-half pre-tax profits to £230.8m. Group sales fell from to 6.89bn in the six months to July, down from £6.95bn during the same period last year. Food sales were £3.7bn, 4.6pc lower than last year.
Mr Marks warned profits were unlikely to improve by the full year. "I really don't see any light at the end of the tunnel," he said. His gloom was reflected across the high street. Topps Tiles, the UK's biggest tile and wooden floor specialist, issued a profits warning, sending the shares plunging 13? - 29pc - to 33p. Matt Williams, chief executive, said he has seen a "step down in consumer confidence since the beginning of July".
Topps Tiles, which employs 1,600 people in the UK, said revenues dived by 10.4pc in the first seven weeks of its fourth quarter. Mr Williams warned that jobs could go: "With fewer sales in store, it's difficult to argue with the logic that we need fewer people to service those sales."
A range of retailers were punished on the stock market. Clinton Cards tumbled 10pc; JJB Sports was down 7pc; Marks & Spencer fell 4pc; and Kingfisher, the owner of B&Q, was off more than 3pc.
The CBI's latest quarterly Distributive Trades Survey found 46pc of retailers said sales had fallen in the two weeks to August 16th with only 13pc recording a rise. The trade body said that retail sales volumes had fallen at the fastest rate for a year. According to the survey, retailers are more negative now than at any time in the past 18 months about the immediate prospects for sales growth.
Judith McKenna, chairman of the CBI's survey panel and chief operating officer of Asda, said: "August was a tough month on the high street. Sales volumes fell at a pace not seen in more than a year, as consumers have continued to see their real incomes squeezed by a combination of inflation and weak wage growth."
The Kingdom of Magical Thinking
by Robin M. Mills - Foreignpolicy.com
Widely assumed to be a fabulously wealthy welfare state, Saudi Arabia is in fact an economic basket case waiting to happen.
In 1935, an oilman visiting the Middle East reported back to his headquarters, "The future leaves them cold. They want money now." Although the temptation of overspending has repeatedly undermined oil-rich governments from Caracas to Tehran, Saudi Arabia avoided this trap over the last decade through fiscal discipline that has kept its expenditures below its swelling oil receipts.
But in a recent report striking for the candor of its unpalatable conclusions, Saudi investment bank Jadwa laid out the kingdom's inexorable fiscal challenge: how to balance soaring government spending, rapidly rising domestic oil demand, and a world oil market that gives little room for further revenue increases. And that was before the recent economic turmoil knocked $20 per barrel off oil prices.
Saudi Arabia's government spending, flat since the last oil boom in the 1970s, is now rising at 10 percent or more annually. And it will rise faster still: The House of Saud's survival instinct in the wake of the initial Arab revolutions led King Abdullah to announce $130 billion of largesse in February and March. The resulting increases in government employment and salaries can be cut only at the cost of more discontent.
And that's only what the kingdom is spending on its "counterrevolution" at home. Saudi Arabia will pay the lion's share of the pledged $25 billion of Gulf Cooperation Council aid to Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, and Oman. With Iraq, Syria, and Yemen likely flashpoints yet to come, the bill will only increase. Already, nearly a third of the Saudi budget goes toward defense, a proportion that could rise in the face of a perceived Iranian threat.
Meanwhile, fast-growing domestic demand poses a serious threat to oil-export revenues. The kingdom is one of the world's least energy-efficient economies: With prices fixed at $3 per barrel for power generation and $0.60 per gallon of gasoline, Saudi Arabia needs 10 times more energy than the global average to generate a dollar of output.
Subsidized natural gas, too, is in short supply, undermining an economic diversification drive focused on petrochemicals. As much as 1.2 million barrels per day (bpd) of oil are burned for electricity to meet summer air-conditioning demand, yet Jeddah, Saudi Arabia's second-largest city, still suffers frequent power cuts. By around 2026, Jadwa projects that domestic consumption will be over 5 million bpd, exceeding exports, which will never again reach their 2005 peak.
This combination of higher spending and lower exports shortens Saudi Arabia's time horizon. Usually considered, on shaky evidence, to be a "price moderate" within OPEC, the kingdom now requires $85 per barrel to balance its budget. That figure will rise to $320 by 2030, according to Jadwa. (Of course, just because the Saudis need a certain oil price to balance the budget does not mean they can get it. Higher prices today come at the inevitable cost of future revenues, as economic growth is reduced and consumers choose more efficient vehicles.)
Savings cushion the budget for now. But the experience of the last oil price cycle is likely to recur: $180 billion of assets in 1980 had become $176 billion of debt by the end of 2002, and despite the oil-price crash, Riyadh was able neither to cut spending nor to grow a viable non-petroleum economy. This time, Jadwa foresees that the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency will be forced to draw down its $500 billion of foreign assets to the point where, by 2030, the country's fiscal position will be under severe strain.
So far, the kingdom has been fortunate. This decade's rapidly rising spending was enabled when Saudi Arabia's main OPEC rivals, Venezuela, and Iran, left the field clear due to underinvestment in and mismanagement of their oil industries. Along with the war in Libya, this has allowed Saudi production to increase to its highest level in 30 years while prices have remained strong. But the good times will soon come to an end.
Oil prices have again, as in 2008, been allowed to get too high, too fast. The renewed economic downturn, combined with fears of overheating in China and other emerging markets, has only sharpened this challenge. Growing efficiency, demographics, and alternatives mean that OECD oil demand is probably in a slow, long-term decline, while non-OPEC supply is proving more robust than expected, with strong growth in Brazilian pre-salt oil and North American unconventional shale oil and oil sands.
And, for the first time since Oil Minister Ahmed Zaki Yamani did battle with the Iranians in the 1970s, Saudi Arabia faces a real challenger within OPEC. Even if Iraq's ambitious plans are only half-realized, it will soak up more than half of global demand growth. Its vast, low-cost reserves make major production increases attractive even if they reduce prices. For its own reasons, Iran seeks to undermine Iraqi stability, but that would hardly be a palatable outcome for the Saudis either.
And that's not all: Angola also has room for further growth; Muammar al-Qaddafi's impending defeat may restore some of Libya's production; and, with Hugo Chávez suffering from cancer, Venezuela's oil policy may change after the 2012 election.
The Saudis' dilemma is this: They hold nearly all OPEC's spare capacity, their essential weapon for keeping the cartel in line. June's "worst meeting ever" was actually a victory for Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi. Opposition by Iran, Venezuela, Libya, and others to a production hike left him free to increase output as far as he chose. Yet Saudi Aramco, the country's monopoly state oil company, has few drill-ready development projects. Plans announced in 2008 to take Aramco's capacity to 15 million bpd have not been implemented, and the only big project under way, the giant Manifa heavy oil field, with about 900,000 bpd, will mostly serve domestic needs.
So what should the Saudis do? Setting a credible target, say $70 per barrel, and defending it by creating new spare capacity would reduce long-term prices. By enduring some pain themselves and drawing down their vast savings, they would burn off high-cost competition, punish OPEC rivals that are ignoring quotas, and damage archenemy Iran. Yet they are understandably reluctant to spend billions of dollars on new fields at a time of wavering demand.
Ambitious plans for nuclear and solar power are no panacea. Saudi Arabia has no competitive advantage over other countries in alternative energy. If it succeeds in reducing oil use in transportation, other countries can too -- so who will be buying Saudi oil?
The black hole in current policy discussions is improved energy efficiency. Raising domestic fuel prices would cut demand, allow development of higher-cost gas resources, and free up more oil for export. "Smart" subsidies or cash transfers could offset the price hikes for vulnerable groups.
A lower oil-price target would have to be combined with domestic spending restraint. The Saudi government cannot forever be the employer of last resort; reshaping education and labor policy to bring more Saudi citizens into the private sector would ease some social pressures. Between 2005 and 2009, 2.2 million private-sector jobs were created, but only 9 percent went to Saudi citizens.
Tinkering is not enough. Without radical reforms, Saudi leverage within OPEC will be increasingly constrained. The kingdom's regional power will weaken, precisely at the time when it is attempting to step up its role. And in the long term, its economic and social model will come under intolerable strain.
Yet the crisis is still too far away, the lure of easy oil money too strong -- and the policy changes required demand deft execution untypical of Saudi bureaucracy. As Machiavelli cautioned, "There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things."
Time to Get Angry, Europe
by Ulrich Beck - Spiegel
The European common currency is in trouble, several EU countries are facing mountains of debt and solidarity within the bloc is declining. It is European youth, in particular, who have drawn the short stick. Closer cooperation is the only way forward.
Germany's European policy is about to undergo a transformation as significant as Ostpolitik --the country's improvement of relations with the Soviet bloc -- was in the early 1970s. While that policy was characterized by the slogan "change through rapprochement," Berlin's new approach might be dubbed "more justice through more Europe."
In both cases, it is a question of overcoming a divide, between the East and the West in the 1970s and between north and south today . Politicians tirelessly insist that Europe is a community of fate. It has been that way since the establishment of the European Union. The EU is an idea that grew out of the physical and moral devastation following World War II. Ostpolitik was an idea devoted to defusing the Cold War and perforating the Iron Curtain.
Unlike earlier nations and empires that celebrated their origins in myths and heroic victories, the EU is a transnational governmental institution that emerged from the agony of defeat and consternation over the Holocaust. But now that war and peace is no longer the overriding issue, what does the European community of fate signify as a new generational experience? It is the existential threat posed by the financial and euro crisis that is making Europeans realize that they do not live in Germany or France, but in Europe.
For the first time, Europe's young people are experiencing their own "European fate." Better educated than ever and possessing high expectations, they are confronting a decline in the labor markets triggered by the threat of national bankruptcies and the economic crisis. Today one in five Europeans under 25 is unemployed.
A New Age of Risky Confusion
In those places where they have set up their tent cities and raised their voices, they are demanding social justice. In Spain and Portugal, as well as in Tunisia, Egypt and Israel (unlike Great Britain), they are voicing their demands in a way as nonviolent as it is powerful. Europe and its youth are united in their rage over politicians who are willing to spend unimaginable sums of money to rescue banks, even as they gamble away the futures of their countries' youth. If the hopes of Europe's young people fall victim to the euro crisis, what can the future hold for a Europe whose population is getting older and older?
News programs offer new visual material for the dawning of a new age of risky confusion -- the "world risk society" -- on an almost daily basis. The headlines have been interchangeable for some time: Insecurity Over the Future of the Global Economy, EU Bailout Fund in Jeopardy, Merkel Attends Crisis Meeting with Sarkozy, Rating Agency Announces Downgrade of US Debt. Does the global financial crisis signal the deterioration of the old center? Ironically, it is authoritarian China that is playing the moral apostle on the financial front, with its sharp criticism of both democratic America and the EU.
There is one thing the financial crisis has undoubtedly achieved: Everyone (experts and politicians included) has been catapulted into a world that no one understands anymore. As far as the political reactions are concerned, there are two extreme scenarios that can be juxtaposed. The first is a Hegelian scenario, in which, given the threats that global risk capitalism engenders, the "ruse of reason" is afforded an historic opportunity.
This is the cosmopolitan imperative: cooperate or fail, succeed together or fail individually. At the same time, the inability to control financial risks (along with climate change and migration movements) presents a Carl Schmitt scenario, a strategic power game, which opens the door to ethnic and nationalist policy.
Taking Europe for Granted
The community of fate is inescapable in both models, because, no matter what we do, global risk capitalism creates new existential divisions and bonds across national, ethnic, religious and political boundaries. How can Europe even prevail in this environment? Paradoxically, the success of the EU is also one of its biggest obstacles. People have come to take many of its achievements for granted, so much so that that perhaps they would only notice them if they ceased to exist.
One only need imagine an EU in which passport controls are reintroduced at borders, there are no longer reliable food safety regulations everywhere, freedom of speech and of the press no longer exist under today's standards (which Hungary is already violating, thereby exposing itself to strict scrutiny), and Europeans traveling to Budapest, Copenhagen or Prague, or even Paris, Madrid and Rome, are forced to exchange money and keep track of exchange rates. The notion of Europe as our home has become second nature to us. Perhaps this explains why we are prepared to jeopardize its existence so carelessly.
We must recognize and acknowledge the reality that Germany has become a part of the European community of fate -- in exactly the way former German Chancellor Willy Brandt described during the first session of parliament following German reunification: "Let us hope that being German and being European are now one and the same, today and forever."
Does the Hegelian idea that reason ultimately prevails throughout history, despite many diversions, still apply? Or is Carl Schmitt's belief that hostility among nations must invariably prevail more fitting to conditions in the world today?
Unlike the community of fate between two rivals that exists between the United States and China, Europe's community of fate is based on shared laws, a shared currency and shared borders, but also on a "never again!" principle. Instead of invoking a noble past, the EU attempts to ensure that the past will never repeat itself. Instead of becoming a super-state or a mechanism that represents enlightened national interests in the best of cases, the EU has taken on a third form.
Its most important role is to orchestrate. It facilitates the networking of commitments and entities that include sovereign states, as well as transnational organizations, municipal and regional governments and the organizations of civil society.
An Accumulation of Impositions
Within this framework, the bailout funds for southern European countries have engendered a logic of conflict between donor and debtor nations. The donor nations must implement domestic austerity programs and, for this reason, are exerting political pressure on the debtor nations at a level exceeding the pain threshold. In contrast, the debtor nations see themselves subject to an EU dictate that violates their national autonomy and dignity. Both stir up hatred of Europe, because everyone sees Europe as an accumulation of impositions.
And then there is the perceived external threat. Critics of Islam, which claim that Muslims are abusing the West's values of freedom, managed to connect xenophobia with enlightenment. Suddenly it was possible to be opposed to the encroachment of certain immigrants, all in the name of enlightenment. As a result, three destructive processes are overlapping and being reinforced in Europe: xenophobia, Islamophobia and anti-European sentiments.
Many envision the end of politics when they think about politics. How can anyone be so blind? In big and small ways, and at the national, European and especially the global level, Hegel, the believer in reason, and Schmitt, who sees enemies everywhere, are at odds.
When it comes to the eternal crisis called Europe, this conflict over the model of the future raises the following questions: To what extent does the revolution among outraged youth actually transcend national borders and promote solidarity? To what extent does the feeling of being left behind lead to a European generational experience and new European policy initiatives? How are workers, the unions and the center of European society behaving? Which of the major parties, in Germany, for example, has the courage to explain to citizens what Europe as a homeland is worth to them?
Merkel adheres to the Hegelian idea by preferring the detours of reason. To use the metaphor of dance: two steps backward, one step to the side, then a magical, lightning-quick about-face, softened by a tiny step forward -- in much the same way as the coalition government in Berlin is hopping, stumbling and tumbling its way forward, dancing to music that neither the Germans nor the other Europeans can hear or comprehend. While former Chancellor Helmut Kohl warned against a German Europe and sought a European Germany, Merkel advocates a German euro-nationalism, putting her faith in the ability of Berlin's regulatory and economic policy to heal Europe's wounds.
Time for More Hegel
But in light of the financial crisis, European policy today should play the same role as the Ostpolitik of the 1970s did in divided Germany: a unification policy without borders. Why was the enormously expensive reunification with East Germany self-evident, and why, on the other hand, is the economic integration of debtor nations like Greece and Portugal frowned upon? It isn't just a question of paying the piper. In fact, the real challenge is to rethink and reshape Europe's future and its position in the world.
The introduction of euro bonds would not be a betrayal of German interests. The road to a union characterized by solidarity, much like the recognition of the Oder-Neisse border between a unified Germany and Poland, is indeed in Germany's well-considered interest. It is an expression of European and German realpolitik. Why shouldn't Europe introduce a financial transaction tax, which would establish a financial scope for a social and environmental Europe, which in turn would promise workers security through Europe, and in doing so address the greatest concerns of young Europeans?
The concept of more justice through more Europe contains an appeal in terms of a transnational community of solidarity. "Be outraged, Europeans." Just as many demonized Brandt's talk of rapprochement with the communist bloc as treason, today's call for "more Europe!" is a blow in the face of national self-awareness.
Merkel's back-and-forth and forward-and-backward approach could also create an opportunity for a future project involving the Social Democrats and the Green Party. As soon as the SPD and the Greens have explained that a social Europe is more than an introverted tightwad, but rather -- using Hegel's argument -- an historic necessity, even the SPD will regain stature and win elections. This, of course, is predicated upon its having the courage to declare Europe to be its main project, just as Ostpolitik was more than 40 years ago.
Areas near Japan nuclear plant may be off limits for decades
by Osamu Tsukimori and Nathan Layne - Reuters
Areas surrounding Japan's crippled Fukushima nuclear plant could remain uninhabitable for decades due to high radiation, the government warned on Saturday as it struggles to clean up after the world's worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.
Japan faces the daunting task of decontaminating large areas of land around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, which is still leaking low levels of radiation nearly six months after an earthquake and tsunami triggered a nuclear meltdown.
In a meeting with local officials on Saturday, the government estimated it could take more than 20 years before residents could safely return to areas with current radiation readings of 200 millisieverts per year, and a decade for areas at 100 millisieverts per year. The estimates, which merely confirm what many experts have been saying for months, are based on the natural decline of radiation over time and do not account for the impact of decontamination steps such as removing affected soil. An vast area is still uninhabitable around the Chernobyl plant 25 years after that disaster.
The Japanese government unveiled guidelines this week with the aim of halving radiation in problem areas in two years, but for spots with very high readings it could take much longer to reach safe levels. "I can't deny the possibility that it could be a long time before people can return to and live in regions with high radiation levels," outgoing Prime Minister Naoto Kan was quoted by domestic media as telling Fukushima Governor Yuhei Sato.
Japan has banned people from entering within 20 km (12 miles) of the Fukushima plant, located 240 km northeast of Tokyo. Around 80,000 people have been evacuated since the March 11 quake and tsunami and many are living in shelters or temporary homes. The government's announcement follows the release of data this week showing radiation readings in 35 spots in the evacuation zone above the 20 millisieverts per year level deemed safe by the government. The highest reading was 508 millisieverts in the town of Okuma, about 3 km from the nuclear plant.
Kan, who resigned on Friday as leader of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan amid intense criticism of his handling of the nuclear crisis, also told Sato that the government planned to build a temporary storage facility in Fukushima for radioactive waste.
The accident at the Fukushima plant is likely to have released about 15 percent of the radiation released at Chernobyl in 1986, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has estimated. But that is still more than seven times the amount of radiation produced by Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979, and experts have estimated Japan's decontamination efforts could cost as much as 10 trillion yen ($130 billion).
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Bankers are doing anything and everything to avoid debt default.
The solution, Historically, to preserve a society was to allow debt default after a bubble of debt.
It was called a JUBILEE!
The concept goes back into unrecorded history.
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http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2011/08/first-recorded-word-for-freedom-in-any.html#comment-form
Well, what happened this time around?
Instead of creating some sort of overarching institution to protect debtors, they create these grandiose, world-scale institutions like the IMF or S&P to protect creditors. They essentially declare (in defiance of all traditional economic logic) that no debtor should ever be allowed to default. Needless to say the result is catastrophic. We are experiencing something that to me, at least, looks exactly like what the ancients were most afraid of: a population of debtors skating at the edge of disaster.
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Debt relief in art
Debt relief plays a significant role in some artworks: in the play The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare, c. 1598, the heroine pleads for debt relief (forgiveness) on grounds of Christian mercy. In the 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, a primary political interpretation is that it treats free silver, (look it up on wiki), which engenders inflation and hence reduces debts. In the 1999 film Fight Club (but not the novel on which it is based), the climactic event is the destruction of credit card records – dramatized as the destruction of skyscrapers – effecting debt relief.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seisachtheia
Seisachtheia (Greek: σεισάχθεια, from σείειν seiein, to shake, and ἄχθος achthos, burden, i.e. the relief of burdens) was a set of laws instituted by the Athenian lawmaker Solon (c. 638 BC–558 BC) in order to rectify the widespread serfdom and slaves that had run rampant in Athens by the 6th century BC.
The seisachtheia laws immediately cancelled all outstanding debts, retroactively emancipated all previously enslaved debtors, reinstated all confiscated serf property to the hektemoroi, and forbade the use of personal freedom as collateral in all future debts. The laws instituted a ceiling to maximum property size - regardless of the legality of its acquisition (i.e. by marriage), meant to prevent excessive accumulation of land by powerful families.
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The Jubilee in the Old Testament
Deuteronomy 15:1-6
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
Deuteronomy 15
Debts Canceled
1 "At the end of [every] seven years you must cancel debts. 2 This is how to cancel debt: Every creditor [a] is to cancel what he has lent his neighbor. He is not to collect [anything] from his neighbor or brother, because the LORD's release of debts has been proclaimed. 3 You may collect [something] from a foreigner, but you must forgive whatever your brother owes you.
4 "There will be no poor among you, however, because the LORD is certain to bless you in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as an inheritance — 5 if only you obey the LORD your God and are careful to follow every one of these commands I am giving you today. 6 When the LORD your God blesses you as He has promised you, you will lend to many nations but not borrow; you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.
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Still farther back ...
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/960201/hittites.shtml
“... it is not surprising to find an echoing of ideas between the Scriptures and the texts of other peoples in the area, he said. They shared similar problems as well as similar values.
The Hittite and Hurrian references to redemption come from a passage titled "The Song of Debt Release," which was excavated in the Hittite capital several years ago. The concept may have originated with the Hurrians, or possibly with other cultures in the ancient Near East. A variation of the same practice was known to the Babylonians during the period in which the Hebrew patriarch Abraham lived.
In the Hurrian passage, the god Tessub orders his followers to release people of Ebla from their debt. "If you take a debt release in Ebla, I will exalt your weapons. Your weapons will begin to conquer your enemies. Your plowed land will prosper in glory. But if you do not make a debt release for Ebla, the city of the throne, in the space of seven days, I will come upon you. I will destroy Ebla, the city of the throne. I will make it like a city that never existed. I will break the surrounding wall of Ebla's city like a cup. I will knock flat the surrounding wall of the upper city like a garbage dump," the passage reads.
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And let’s look at
http://phoenicia.org/interest.html
Did the Phoenicians Introduce the Idea of Interest to Greece and Italy; and if so When?
by Michael Hudson
(It long, but well worth the time.)
jal
Alan,
I should include an addendum to my last post to you saying that the theory that TFPTB want dollar HI does not make practical sense in the near-term, because it is the foundation which anchors their paper wealth and ability to extract additional wealth at little to no cost. Once enough hard assets and resources have ended up in their hands, dollar HI could very well be in the plans of at least some powerful groups. Who knows, maybe even some form of Freegold is being considered, but then the question becomes whether such a system can be sustained for any significant period of time. If it is sustained, I can guarantee you it won't be "free" for 99% of the population in any sense of that word.
The Bankers have an evil agenda but the average people will not take things lying down and the bankers will not get have their way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRKcPZt61SQ&feature=BFa&list=PL40B5FFF613D04911
Stoneleigh said...
used,
Why would anyone use a chart of M3 to see if we're in deflation or inflation?
The graph is M3 plus total credit market debt. Credit makes up the vast majority of the effective money supply, and it is credit that is tightening. That is deflation by definition.
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I understand M3 has M1 and M2 components as well as MZM-
So why count existing money?
If you want to see money supply use (BASE)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE
If you want to see credit/debt supply use (TCMDO)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TCMDO
If you want to see if (BASE) money has velocity use (M1-MULT)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MULT
If you want to see the velocity of credit use M2V
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2V
I agree with you-the size of the credit markets dwarf any other supply of (money)
Gold seen the ramp up of credit in 2001 (hyper-inflation of the credit supply/asset values) and now gold sees the default risk as asset values fall out from under the debt(deflation)and the risk to currencies-
I don't believe the dollar will be blown up-a currency crises in "any" major is the kiss of death to all of them-
The only way to stop a mass sell off will be a weighting to gold and that will involve Central Banks/Governments buying Gold on the open market-jmo
Already 100 dollars from the peak and there are those who are always trying to find words of comfort to justify their actions for investing into this scam of the century.
You are gloating but when the scam artists do their stuff and the metal tumbles don't come crying to us over here because you have said said really bad things to us.
Jack said...
Already 100 dollars from the peak and there are those who are always trying to find words of comfort to justify their actions for investing into this scam of the century.
You are gloating but when the scam artists do their stuff and the metal tumbles don't come crying to us over here because you have said said really bad things to us.
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It's also already 1600 dollars above the low-
I work with data-not theory-
Show me where and why gold will crash to whatever number you have and I'll show that you are wrong-
The only practical purpose for this metal is that it can be used for electronic connections and even than you can find an alternative.
A person would have to be a fool to pay millions for a ton of this stuff when you can buy aluminium for only few thousand dollars.
Who cares about the game of the bankers.
Ash: "Even if we limit the price increases to food and energy, while financial assets deflate, it is difficult to reason that such a trend would persist without a fundamental loss of confidence in the dollar occurring as well."
Maybe you're right. We shall see.
Ash: "Neither manufacturers, consumers nor anyone in between can absorb steadily increasing energy costs right now, so something must give."
I disagree, for reasons that will be clear on the next post -- response to El G. In a nutshell: The waste and lard is so great that it will not be difficult to absorb higher costs/prices. We're just so hypnotized by our own way of living, with all the vast built-in waste and profligacy, that we cannot imagine anything different. Our problems are largely psychological, and stem more from EXCESS cheap energy and cheap everything, than from lack of any truly necessary thing.
Can a Jubillee occur within our financial system. Here is a historical note from Michael Hudson.
(You need a dictator with an iron fist to make the elite knuckle under.)
This polarization had occurred in the Mesopotamian homeland but was reversed by periodic debt cancellations when rulers proclaimed "economic freedom" from debt: Sumerian amargi, Akkadian andurarum, Babylonian mi'arum, Hurrian —udutu, and Hebrew deror. However, archaic Greece and Italy had no centralized rulers to proclaim such debt cancellations — or, where kings existed as in Rome, they were overthrown by aristocratic families hardly eager to cancel their populations' debts. Financial polarization in Greece and Italy thus occurred much more rapidly and irreversibly than in Mesopotamia and its Near Eastern periphery, and the deterioration from productive commercial debt to unproductive agrarian usury was more pronounced.
walker,
A lot of what you write rings true. I also don't understand why so many people are keen to join the peasantaria - there will be plenty of time for that later on. I mean, people who are stuck to a particular tiny piece of geography are so easy to control - when the place is run by gangster-barons. Like you said, the USA is a food superpower so it makes even less sense to do it over there. I can understand someone doing it because they don't want to eat hormones/antibiotics and so on that come with supermarket food, but not for trade and survival. Of course, your figure for China's food imports was incorrect, but there is no doubt that China is heavily dependent on imports of grains, fertiliser and energy.
If one finds a way of making more cash than one spends in that situation, one would have more options. Of course, if one has savings to start with, that is even better. I think the value of money (including PM's) is grossly underestimated when things turn sour.
In any case, I really appreciate having someone with a non-Western viewpoint. It is amazing how much cultural baggage we all carry around with us.
el gallinazo said...
"I do not want to argue about FOFOA's ideas"
Neither do I. I am not a FOFOA-ite. Just an interested observer. I am agnostic, and skeptical of his stuff. However, he has written a few outstanding pieces, and I recommend them.
El G: "Where we disagree, with the exception of crude oil energy derivatives down the road, is in the nominal set points."
"Crude oil energy derivatives" don't exist in a vacuum. They are an underlying factor influencing "nominal set points", at least as things are organized today.
El G: "Who is going to have the money to pay for HI food in the midst of a depression with sky high real...unemployment, and monthly wage and salary reductions..."
Several things will happen. "Necessity" will be redefined, and mostly for the better. Oatmeal for breakfast (cost = .18) will be chosen over packaged processed crap costing 10 times more. And that same scenario will play out on scores of other fronts. Meanwhile, the "packaged processed crap" (and everything else at the high end) will still exist, at a price, for those who can afford it. Oatmeal will double or treble or quadruple in price, while Pop-Tarts go up 12-fold. Pop Tarts will lose a lot of market share to oatmeal, as consumers migrate "downward" toward higher value, lower cost things. You have to be pretty damned destitute to be unable to afford oatmeal.
But more important than that: consumer items will become a larger share of household expenditures. Most Americans are accustomed to spending well under 10% of their income on food; that will double, or perhaps even triple. At the same time, spending on other things will be curtailed -- things like education, conventional entertainment (including restaurants, travel, etc.), and healthcare.
It will be a common thing to simply drop the health insurance, do one's best with alt med and self-care, and if it gets bad, show up at the emergency room and hope you get treated. (Same routine as for poor people right now!) With the health insurance monkey off your back, food will be a LOT more budget-able.
(In response to this trend, the health insurance companies will come up with new, more-affordable products, with ever-higher deductables and other provisions to discourage use. And many Americans will buy them, figuring that catastrophe coverage is better than nothing.)
Another popular tactic will be abandonment of the automobile, replacing it with bicycle and/or scooter (or other means). In most states, the 50cc scooters require no license, registration or insurance, resulting in enormous savings on all fronts: cost of vehicle, cost of fuel, and other costs. I predict a dramatic increase in demand for such vehicles, and the rapid development of a variety of 50cc 3-wheelers with cargo space, or fitted with trailers, and etc., as replacements for the (unaffordable) old cars.
Yet another popular tactic will be squatting, or working out deals with the owners of unoccupied dwellings and commercial buildings to occupy them for very low, or no, rent. This will be a good deal for the owners, as they will not be able to rent out for the full buck anyway, and unoccupied buildings deteriorate rapidly. Anyone with modest practical skills in building or renovation will have no trouble striking such a deal, exchanging a few days per month of work for rent.
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You ask: "Who will have the money to pay" for expensive food and sundries, and the answer is: most people will have the money, after they drastically reduce other expenditures. It will be less a matter of absolute inability to pay, and more a matter of choices and priorities.
That last point applies, as a generality, to much else in this discussion. It will not be a matter of absolute unavailability of things, but rather what you're willing to pay for them -- or find a substitute, or grow/make it yourself, or give up something else in order to afford it. Industrial civilization is not going to collapse. The manufacturing capacity and raw materials resources here on earth are fantastic. But it is easy to imagine, and even inevitable, that they will become a lot more expensive.
The optimistic note in this is that most Americans have had such over-larded lifestyles that there is plenty that can be trimmed without loss of anything truly worthwhile. I mean, so what if you have to give up cable TV, home-delivered pizza, your classes at the community college, and skiing vacations? BFD! It won't even be that bad if you have to give up your $200-per-month cholesterol med. You can easily figure a much cheaper way to do the same thing. Hell, you can usually do the same thing with a dime per day worth of niacin, and oatmeal for breakfast, and no pizza.
So, yes, El G and Stoneleigh, prices of everything will go way way up, and the great majority will be able to afford them AS THEY GIVE UP OTHER BIG AND LARGELY UNNECESSARY STUFF with which American consumers are so overloaded. Added to that will be a robust new culture of frugality, recycling and re-use, substitution, salvage, and alternatives. Sky-high prices won't mean you starve (at least not here in the developed world) or go naked or sleep outdoors; they will mean you use the expensive stuff more sparingly (and cheap stuff more liberally), and figure out alternatives, and especially decide what other stuff you're going to do without.
Last: I'm not making light of the very real suffering that will occur in the course of all this. Many people will suffer AND DIE, unnecessarily, and that is tragic. At the same time, however, a great deal of what is foregone will be that which was useless or even harmful. It is a terrible shame that the useless and harmful cannot be (will not be) better segregated from the truly necessary -- with all the human cost that that lack will entail. But that is the nature of our predicament and near- and mid-term future. It could have been different if we had gotten started earlier, and if we had been willing to ... etc., etc. (I don't want to launch off in that direction right now!) But we didn't. So here we are.
Alan,
I agree that structural waste of energy consumption in our economic and cultural systems is a huge part of why prices have been able to remain so high, but if people are forced to cut back on such waste, then that can also be seen as a self-reinforcing factor that undermines further increases in price, rather than one allowing people to absorb higher prices. It is also the case that not all structural energy waste is something that will conveniently disappear in the next few years, such as people who must drive miles to work from the suburbs. Those entitled psychologicies have become powerful drugs on which their users are now entirely dependent on, and they will not stop fiending for their cheap energy/credit subsidized lifestyles without an extremely painful period of withdrawal or death.
Stoneleigh-
I should have explained MZM and the influence it has on M3-
MZM = Money of Zero Maturity-
This is your money market funds and they contain mostly money equivalents TBT etc. and not money-
Look at your M3 chart and then compare it with the Institutional funds action and you will see the correlation with M3-
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/WIMFSL
That is why you're seeing the sharp downward reversal in M3
A Moderator:
My posts are there, just in the wrong order. Can you re-arrange them to be in correct order, or is that impossible? The post of mine that you posted is a REPEAT, and with no paragraph breaks; perhaps you could delete this.
... or you could DELETE my last two posts, and I will repost them in correct order. If you can do that.
NOW, weirdly, the two posts are there, in correct order, followed by the "Drat!" one, and.... gads, is blogger usually this flaky?
used
I need some disambiguation to your comment to Stoneleigh, the comment that starts this way:
'Stoneleigh said...
"used,
Why would anyone use a chart of M3 to see if we're in deflation or inflation?".....'
Not sure who belongs to which statements and while it all looks interesting I can not figure out who is on first. I suppose I could track back and find out in the original comments, but I am lazy and would prefer it if you were to use some italics and/or quote marks.
That aside, Thanks for the links!
Missed this interesting article from ZH a while back on Libya and the "revolution". It is relevant again given the recent fall of the Colonel (not Sanders).
Ash: "I agree that structural waste of energy consumption in our economic and cultural systems is a huge part of why prices have been able to remain so high,"
Er... huh? Prices are not high. Prices are low, but headed higher, and to some extent, in some contexts, this is a very good thing. It was the low prices that allowed the "structural waste" and whatnot. It was, for example, extremely low oil prices for decades that made possible the development of the whole insane auto/industrial complex and suburban build-out. (As well as a fair measure of the military/industrial complex and medical/industrial complex -- two other gigantic unsustainable ratholes.) All of our behavior, as individuals and institutionally, has been heavily conditioned by dirt-cheap oil and other resources. And so, quite naturally, we don't value oil and other resources, and we wind up creating systems, and living styles of life, that waste huge quantities of them.
If prices had been higher -- if the dollar had been weaker -- much of this would not have happened. The strong dollar policy (which means, effectively, "cheap-oil-and-everything-else policy") has had a disastrous effect, causing us to create multiple unsustainable systems, and to misallocate vast amounts of capital and resources, such that we are now hurtling toward/into collapse. Low prices may not be the sole culprit in all this, but they have played a critical and indispensable role in it; they are a *sine qua non*.
I say again: our problems are largely attributable to an excess of cheap oil and other resources. Not to a lack of anything, but to EXCESS, and to cheapness.
Ash: "but if people are forced to cut back on such waste, then that can also be seen as a self-reinforcing factor that undermines further increases in price, rather than one allowing people to absorb higher prices."
Yes, and that is how prices SHOULD be brought down -- the natural way. That would be in contrast to the artificial (and very harmful) price-suppression of the strong-dollar era. See the difference? It is critical.
Ash: "It is also the case that not all structural energy waste is something that will conveniently disappear in the next few years,"
Of course not! It will not "conveniently" disappear at all! It is going to be a cluster-fuck, just as Jim Kunstler says. Very messy. And it will take at least a generation. It is not the end of THE world, but it is the end of many comfortable worldS (plural).
Ash: "Those entitled psychologies have become powerful drugs on which their users are now entirely dependent, and they will not stop fiending for their cheap energy/credit subsidized lifestyles without an extremely painful period of withdrawal or death."
Agreed. Which is -- and I am not kidding about this -- why we need to start talking right now about alternative meds and tech for depression, anxiety, insomnia, panic attacks, and all the other stress and psychiatric problems that people will be having more than ever (more than they are already having them!). The conventional stuff (SSRIs, etc.) is fair to middling in efficacy, tends to be expensive, and always seems to require repeat $150 office visits. We need to start developing affordable alternatives and services that people can grow/manufacture/do for themselves.
Alan-
I say again: our problems are largely attributable to an excess of cheap oil and other resources. Not to a lack of anything, but to EXCESS, and to cheapness.
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I disagree with that statement-
Prices were high-look at oil going from $8-$150-
I agree with your "excess"
What the problem was-was giving credit out to everyone and blowing a housing bubble-
The increase in the asset (home) masked the fact that wages were stagnate the dollar did lose value during that period and outsourcing allowed cheap goods to pour in and people used the increase in home equity as an ATM and spent like they were becoming rich off their houses and prices would never stop climbing-
Now house prices are falling/wages are falling and unemployment is high and peoples net worth is decreasing (deflation)
Prices cannot hang above affordability for long and either they come down to meet the purchasing power of the consumer or trade collapses-
Used: "prices were high-look at oil going from $8-$150"
I was talking about the last half-century (or back to the end of WWII), during which the build-outs and misallocations to which I referred were completed. There was a spike in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but otherwise very low prices. Oil was in the teens for most of the 1980s-1990s, and was in low single-digits before, and right up into, the 1970s. Dirt cheap. Our whole crazy system was built with dirt-cheap oil, and could not have been built without it.
Used: "Prices cannot hang above affordability for long... they must come down to meet the purchasing power of the consumer"
Surely so, but we're nowhere near that. I've explained how even much higher prices for staples and consumables could be borne, and are well within the purchasing power of most consumers, or of the average American consumer.
Alan,
I guess its been a while since I've seen any of the Mad Max films. I must admit that much of what you have written, I completely agree with. Where I might differ has more to do with the extent to which various effects resulting from the inevitable economic contraction along with how the unpredictable feedback processes both social and economic will act to destabilize and undermine many aspects of the status quo.
I just finished re-watching an interview with David Holmgren (co-creator of the permaculture concept) on how mankind might adapt to a new era of declining energy and how our strategy for success in the previous era of increasing energy availability had rewarded us for engaging in so many behaviors that are now clearly and manifestly maladaptive.
My perspective on the gold cash debate in many ways comes down to the basic premise for why Stoneleigh doesn't much bother with predictions far into the future, because the farther we project into the future the less accurate we become. I don't think the global ponzi scheme can survive the transition from the status quo currency arrangement to some other gold-backed or international fiat without suffering an even greater level of economic and social disorder than the one that will have inspired a move away from the status quo arrangement. As long as cash still functions more or less normally, I think the American masses will largely endure whatever financial pain comes their way. Try to change that fact institutionally after several years of economic devastation and instability and all bets are off. Guns are going to be the last thing to hold their value (though their nominal price may fall significantly).
We imagine prices are "high" because we are spoiled rotten. We expect life without work; life for free.
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"[Oil is] a Faustian spectacle of illusion and deceit... Oil is a resource that anesthetizes thought, blurs vision, corrupts... Oil fills us with such arrogance that we begin believing we can easily overcome such unyielding obstacles as time... Oil creates the illusion of a completely changed life, life without work, life for free... Oil kindles extraordinary emotions and hopes, since oil is above all a great temptation. It is the temptation of ease, wealth, fortune, power." --- Michael Watts, Petro-Violence: Some Thoughts on Community, Extraction, and Political Ecology, at:
http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/EnvirPol/WP/01-Watts.pdf
Used: "Prices cannot hang above affordability for long... they must come down to meet the purchasing power of the consumer"
Alan: "Surely so, but we're nowhere near that. I've explained how even much higher prices for staples and consumables could be borne, and are well within the purchasing power of most consumers, or of the average American consumer."
Too much contraction will set off a cascade effect of business sector defaults and unemployment which can set up a nasty feedback loop of deflation, contraction, depressed spending, etc. What keeps the global economy afloat today is exactly all the excess that you suggest that we can do without. We aren't talking about how to keep people alive, we're talking about sustaining a global economic system predicated on growth which serves as the collateral for all the already unsustainable debt.
Alan2102, Ash, used:
For arguments sake ( and what else does one venture on this site for?) I would say that a case can be made for, not only continuing our present pattern of misuse of petroleum, but, if possible, to increase its rate of consumption.
We will not willingly go to a lower energy state other than by the route of the lemming, and if so, then the faster we go the less resource loss and, more importantly, the less damage to the planet will occur.
The ' bang not a whimper' solution.
progressive--
Too much contraction will set off a cascade effect of business sector defaults and unemployment which can set up a nasty feedback loop of deflation, contraction, depressed spending, etc. What keeps the global economy afloat today is exactly all the excess that you suggest that we can do without
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Of course we need all of these things -but we cannot have a growing economy unless we have something to drive it and we do not at this time-
We can change our ways and get by with much less-
I can drive through a city of 1 million in the morning and see 1 person/car or 2 people living in a 3000sq,ft house-
All of these excesses will be curbed by market forces ie: deflation-
Deflation is a good thing-but only so long as Governments do not fight it and allow "everything" to fail that should fail and allow prices to float-instead of giving hot money investment banks the capital to speculate in the commodity markets and distort prices-
I know this isn't happening and likely will not happen-but in the end as painful as we make it-we will change and the market "will" eventually bring lower prices to the consumer-
Prices can always be too high-but their must be a buyer at some point or the commodity becomes nothing--
" We aren't talking about how to keep people alive, we're talking about sustaining a global economic system predicated on growth which serves as the collateral for all the already unsustainable debt."
Good point. I agree the US could cut there resource consumption by 1/3 or more easily - but how this depression is distributed will be horrendous - the us already has a wealth disparity on par with Egypt. So we are looking at a large underclass in the urban centers and areas of the heartland The right is already talking about how the bottom half is greedy, entitled and in need of privation for discipline purposes.
The other issue is people realizing we have all become pawns and serfs in a game of pseudo democracy rigged by the corporate state. This is another issue that could cause tensions.
No amount of massaging the propaganda line or finger pointing is going to be able to rectify the growing obvious discrepancy between what the bottom 80% experience every day and the media created fantasy world paraded across TV screens in dramas, sitcoms and mass media commercial culture. Something has got to give.
Some interesting comments here that I would like to address..
Tool making.
There was/is a guy in the Clackamas area that was making some very interesting farm hand implements,his outfit was called "Red Pig" tools.
I looked at his work a bit more critically than others would have ,having been a steel fabricator as well as Inspector.His stuff was not "pretty"to me,but looked as if it would last a long time.[As much as he wanted for his hand forged tools,it had better!]I can make tools,but why not,buy excellent quality[socket handle type]hoes and shovels ect.,used for 10$at a used tool place like Teds "the tool shed" on 86th s.e. Powell,in Portland Ore.I usually stop in their once a month to see if any of the more esoteric tools have shown up I would want...but he always has good used tools CHEAP...The one thing I always look out for is long hoe handles,and extra handles of all sorts.[I have a stash,but stuff you USE all the time wears out ,breaks is misplaced ect.,so I have spares..lots of spares.
I still have a socket type hoe that was my grandmothers,The blade has worn down to 1/2 the original size,from year after year of gardening.[As she grew older,most of what she grew was Dahlias]At some time I will re-shape the hoe blade to a diamond,to use for the most careful weeding between plants.With a ex-long "Broom" handle,it will a real back saving tool.
To me,it makes more time sense to stockpile this kind of low cost stuff now,than worry about it in the future.I cannot stress enough to buy the best you can find...and that does not mean the most expensive.
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Walkers comments..
I distrust ANY data from China,that is not compiled from outside 3rd party.His statements could well be true if accounting of end use are considered.I know that some whopping amount of food that is consumed in the USA come from processing facilities in China,where for instance Pistachio nuts are shipped to China to be hand processed cheaper than could be done where the nuts are grown[!]This is the case with a startling amount of USA foodstuffs,like 70% of the apple "juice",20% of the frozen spinach,70% of the processed mushrooms ect.Look at the labels on your food and and you will get some real surprises.
[http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/reports/a-decade-of-dangerous-food-imports-from-china/]
And people wonder why I am so very picky about food.[Not like Mrs snuffy,though,who is a terror to grocery personnel when asking about organic and gmo staus of products]
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Cash flow and The Powers's [theives]That Be...
I am sure that there is more than one conspiracy,by the various power centers to strip-mine any and all remaining "assets"such as SSN,medicare,ect...I know all sorts of low-life congress critters ,and insurance executives have their "special plans".
O-man is putting it all on the table w/o any pre-conditions.He is selling all of our collective asses down the river,and smiling while he does it.
I don't know how close we are to the real serious stuff...When they start to take a meat ax to the military budgets is when I will know that they are looking bankruptcy in the face,and have no choice.That is one signal I will take very seriously
To do anything outside of PMs and cash in your hand will require timing,and nerves of steel.I am opting out,as I see that having a secure homestead[as close to paid off as I can possibly make it]and "secured" supplies,as well makes the most sense to me
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In the north east part of my 3acres,I spent a bundle,and much time and effort to put in a Apple orchard.Its not fancy,around 45 trees,on a slope.I have 6'fence around it and the ability to make the fence quite a bit higher around it.[It has pipe every 4th tree.Sooner or later I will string cable and work some pruning majic and set a espalier type apple walls that will keep me off ladders.]The trees have been in for 4-5 years,and have gotten pretty good size 2+ inches in dia.[good ground.]Most of the time I only keep the briars down,and pay little attention to that area,as I have other,always pressing things to,and its not near the well traveled areas on my place.
Something sweet happened this year.
I went up to check how the guy who works for me had done with the briars,and discovered I have a bumper crop of apples this year,mostly of Liberty's,and my favorite, Spartans.The hornets and natural pest control methods I have used over the years have paid off.None of these have coddling moth or any other bugs..and no poison on the apples we will eat for the next 6 months.Even the Akane bore...[I use them mostly for pollination]
..... Thats security...
Way tired,and I have to take my wife to work early,and my granddaughter to the zoo tommorow[smile]Busy day.
Bee good,or
Bee careful
snuffy
@used,
>>Gold seen the ramp up of credit in 2001 (hyper-inflation of the credit supply/asset values) and now gold sees the default risk as asset values fall out from under the debt(deflation)and the risk to currencies-<<
How big is the gold market compared to the bond market?
What does the bond market see?
Which one is more likely to be right?
Cherry picking context leads to mistakes.
@Board,
Re: gold market rigging...
I listend to an interview with Bill Fleckenstein and the topic of gold market suppression came up.
He said those same claims had been made when gold was $500, $1000, and I think gold was $1300 at the time of the interview.
His point was that he didn't believe it anymore because anyone leveraged to the hilt to depress gold at $400 should be blown to itty bitty bits well before now, but it hasn't happened.
Sure, the books could be rigged, but the paradigm might need a sanity check, too.
@NZSactuary
I too want to find a way to get back to the land. But the learning curve for a white-collar academic type like me is very very steep. I regret how much of the important survival knowledge has been lost. Even my mum knew a ton of stuff that she learned from her Depression-era parents. Everyone knew how to garden and can vegetables. I'm trying to learn a bit. But also trying to be closer to food growing so that I can work on other people's land, since I just won't learn enough to grow my own food in time for the crunch. I have made a commitment to myself to learn to butcher an animal myself, if I'm going to continue to eat meat. It's ridiculous how far removed I am from my own food chain!
Alan 2102 said:
"I say again: our problems are largely attributable to an excess of cheap oil and other resources. Not to a lack of anything, but to EXCESS, and to cheapness."
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I am so busy right now, I risk repeating something already pointed out by others as I hardly have time to read all the posts and comments. But anyway here goes:
Spot on. Much of Europe has had very high priced auto fuel for a long time due to heavy taxation. The result was demand for cars that have low fuel consumption. For a very long time in France and much of Europe the common autos consume at least 1/2 as much as American cars. People demanded better kilometerage, the manufactures provided what they asked for and the people purchased them.
At the same time in the US the manufacturers whined it is not possible to increase efficiency very much and besides it would raise the cost of the automobile too much for people to afford. All of this in the face of plenty of opposing evidence.
For readers from the US who complain about cost for diesel, here is the current cost in France: (1,38euro/liter) x (1,45 US $/euro) x (liter/0,264172052 US gallons) = 7,57 US $/gallon.
Gasoline is even more expensive.
Cheers,
Robert 1
Bosum Cookie said: "What do these chips record? Every aspect of the transaction? Does this mean that every time I use the card in a machine with a chip reader it extracts every bit of information about prior transactions?
Any ideas?"
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Much of Europe has had debit cards with chips for a long time. Pointed out by Nassim re France.
I am told that credit cards with out chips will not work for purchasing auto fuel, paying for tolls on toll roads and often for paying in restaurants in France. They still work in ATMs for withdrawing cash.
For those considering visiting China apparently the same thing applies now for personal purchases. You have to pay cash for most things now unless you have a card with a chip.
Re personal information, a non chip card still accesses your personal information before concluding a transaction. Plus the government can access your purchase information when it wants.
It is felt that having a chip in the card increases security for the card owner but I do not have links to support that. Logic says that copying transaction information onto the chip would jeopardize security.
Best regards,
Robert 1
Alan2102 said...
Oil is a resource that anesthetizes thought, blurs vision, corrupts... Oil fills us with such arrogance that we begin believing we can easily overcome such unyielding obstacles as time... Oil creates the illusion of a completely changed life, life without work, life for free... Oil kindles extraordinary emotions and hopes, since oil is above all a great temptation. It is the temptation of ease, wealth, fortune, power."
Meh. Oil isn't necessary for that. People throughout "civilised" history have always been delusional - but oil does help a lot of people be more delusional than they might otherwise be.
Robert1: "Much of Europe has had very high priced auto fuel for a long time due to heavy taxation. The result was demand for cars that have low fuel consumption."
The result was also demand for, and creation of, LIVABLE and WALKABLE cities! (What a concept, huh?) As well as generally more humane civilization.
Cheap gas, for decades, was a conditioning factor that brought out all the worst of America and Americans, and that set in concrete (both literally and figuratively) the worst, such that it will take generations to undo the damage.
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Here's a start:
http://restoringmayberry.blogspot.com/2011/07/future-of-pavement.html
Sunday 31 July 2011
The future of pavement
Skilo: "anyone leveraged to the hilt to depress gold at $400 should be blown to itty bitty bits well before now, but it hasn't happened."
Yes, mere mortals would be blown to bits. But if you've got unlimited funds, created at a mouse-click by friends in high places, to support your shorting habit...
Many conspiracy debunkers suffer from a simple problem: an incomprehension of, or non-acceptance of, just how blatantly corrupt people can be, and are.
Financial markets and ripping people off kind of go hand and hand. Speculation is a sophisticated form of robbery. Theft by perception management. It's all conspiracy - an agreement between persons to deceive, mislead, or defraud, or to gain an unfair advantage
Alan2102 said "we need to start talking right now about alternative meds and tech for depression, anxiety, insomnia, panic attacks, and all the other stress and psychiatric problems that people will be having more than ever "
Definitely agree. However, many people today don't want to wait for anything. They want an instant pill to alleviate depression, lower blood pressure, reduce weight, build muscle, etc.
I fear when people are unable to obtain their meds, suicide rates will increase, and/or a black market will develop for people to still obtain them, as well as higher rates of stealing and robbery.
Many people who are used to 'instant' whatever, are not going to willingly want to take the time to find or learn alternative options.
You talk about prevention but they don't want to listen to that.
Eat healthy before you get sick or get ready for this mess we are going to be entering.
They just want to have fun now and worry later.
Robert 1,
You have it right. There is no reason to save any transaction information to the chip. It is merely an authentication token, and the account information is securely saved in a server somewhere. Multiple servers, for reliability.
The brown stripes are easily cloned, as the technology is not much more sophisticated than an old fashioned magnetic tape recorder.
The other reason not to record anything in the chip is that they are frequently lost. A new card can be easily issued, but not if there is anything important saved to the chip.
Dont expect the price of the gold to come down sharply now because they are going to try to suck as much as they can from the people.
Ash was saying that when banks start to go bankrupt than we will see that.
Even at that time we will see the price stay high because it will be a chance to suck more capital from average folks.
I think when the big panic is over than the price will drop
1. When I go to the cnn web site my computer revs up as if it was getting ready for a race.(Sometimes I get this from Youtube)
2. Yahoo search engine does not work properly and this has been going on for a long time and I am thinking of removing everything that is related to yahoo .
Google chrome is fantastic and it is super fast.
And one more remark about gold:
Isn't it amusing that the "bugs" complain so much about price suppression, when they should be saying "thank you" ... assuming one wants to accumulate the metal, wouldn't one want to buy it at a lower price?
Although I'm a Stoneleigh convert, I still listen to Puplava's show from time to time and follow ZH and some other PM advocates. If you're really into gold and silver, I'd suggest you read Jesse. He has comments turned off, but writes an excellent blog.
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Snuffy was saying when they take a chainsaw to the defense bugdet, that's a sign the end is near. I'd say when Stoneleigh goes back to the farm in Ottawa to stay ...
Jack - My computer also revs up watching youtube videos and videos from CNN and MSNBC. So I don't watch many videos, just read, :)
skilo-
How big is the gold market compared to the bond market?
What does the bond market see?
Which one is more likely to be right?
Cherry picking context leads to mistakes.
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Do you actually expect me to answer a question as silly as comparing the size of the Bond market to the Gold market?
But I'm glad you asked that and I should have added to my post that the Long Bond seen exactly what Gold seen (credit risk) at the exact same time-
Notice the correlation in 01 with violent spike down in yields and the sharp upturn from a 20 year bear market in Gold-
You can't fool the Long Bond and you can't fool Gold-
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/DTP30A28?cid=82
http://bit.ly/rgSzkL
Alan,
"Er... huh? Prices are not high. Prices are low, but headed higher, and to some extent, in some contexts, this is a very good thing."
Sorry, I meant "to stay so low". And it wasn't really the structural waste that caused relatively low prices, but the other way around, as you point out. However, I'm still not understanding how you arrive at the conclusion that prices for most consumer items will continue increasing, when you acknowledge how inflexible the current structure is and how that's unlikely to significantly change in the near-term. I may have been a bit misleading with my last post, when I said people will continue fiending their "entitled" lifestyles. They will, but I don't believe they will successfully maintain those lifestyles on average by adapting to higher prices for necessities, and instead will deal with perceived losses as a hardcore drug addict deals with losing access to his/her drug of choice or design.
One of the most inflexible aspects of consumer societies right now, of course, is debt overhang. That is not an expense that can be shirked by the average person or business, and typically the largest one. Then you also have large tax burdens which are unlikely to decrease for the middle class, and you have a push to reduce government programs/benefits across the local, state and federal levels. When you add in the effects of increasing unemployment and underemployment in a self-reinforcing credit deflation, then you have a huge reduction in aggregate demand for all consumer goods, including food and energy. The expectations that the Depression is only getting worse will serve to suppress consumer/investment demand even further.
Basically, the discussion comes down to whether you think affordability for consumer goods/services (discretionary or otherwise) will drop because prices consistently increase or because incomes/revenues fall faster than prices decrease. The view here is obviously the latter. My own view is also that a sudden reversal into HI is more likely than sustained high inflation over the next 5 years, albeit they are both very unlikely.
@used,
>>You can't fool the Long Bond and you can't fool Gold-<<
Yes, 3.52% for the 30 year bond is definitely telegraphing imminent high inflation / hyper inflation.
2.18% on the ten year is telegraphing serious inflation? Seriously?
Next you'll say 4% 30 year mortgages (given by the people who will determine if we have hyperinflation, too - they would be cutting off their own heads to give those loans ahead of serious inflation) are telegraphing serious inflation.
Your bias is showing through.
Emotions are best left out of speculating, IMHO.
BTW, TAE recommends AGAINST the long bond, too. Going short is best and that is what people are doing.
DIYer said...
And one more remark about gold:
Isn't it amusing that the "bugs" complain so much about price suppression, when they should be saying "thank you" ... assuming one wants to accumulate the metal, wouldn't one want to buy it at a lower price?
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What I find amusing is how you like to label people who have an opposing view "bugs"
I have no problem with price suppression-if there even is such a thing-
Pull up a gold chart-if that's called suppression-let's have more of it-
Personally-I've been in gold since 01-so a falling gold price is not in my best interest and also-
Thanks for your not so subtle hints to leave "your" board and go elsewhere-
The subject was Gold after all-
@Alan,
>>Many conspiracy debunkers suffer from a simple problem: an incomprehension of, or non-acceptance of, just how blatantly corrupt people can be, and are.<<
I'm all for a good conspiracy backed by evidence and/or a rational thought process.
I think I mentioned that in my post.
What is the be4st smoking gun evidence there is that unlimited money is being borrowed and thrown at the gold and silver markets?
skilo said...
@used,
>>You can't fool the Long Bond and you can't fool Gold-<<
Yes, 3.52% for the 30 year bond is definitely telegraphing imminent high inflation / hyper inflation.
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You are not following what I'm pointing out-
There will be no "high Inflation or Hyper-inflation at least not in the foreseeable future-
If I thought there was going to be high Inflation-I would sell Gold in a second and lever myself into as much debt as possible-
Gold does not perform when Inflation is high ie: 1980-2001
From 2001-2008 the Inflation we had was "abnormal"
As I pointed out above-
(The credit money supply was Hyper-inflated)
The Long Bond and Gold reacted to it-
Today-the Long Bond and Gold are reflecting the default risk that occurred from those actions-
Gold could easily correct back to the 200 DMA around 1500 and Bonds "might" be a near term short-but-
I would be careful shorting either here-you're liable to get your head handed to you-this is Deflation-
DIYer: "Isn't it amusing that the "bugs" complain so much about price suppression, when they should be saying thank you"
Most of us DO say "thank you" for the lower prices -- from a personal interest standpoint. Not only does it allow accumulation at lower prices, but it guarantees more explosive upward movements in the future.
But some of us also have a social conscience, and are aware that the price suppression is having malign effects all over, outside our own little backyards.
Hence: opposed to it on a social/external level, while accepting it with pleasure on a personal/internal level.
If I could end it today, I would. Personal portfolio be damned.
In the previous comment of mine (in referece to petroleum) it should read:if possible, to increase its rate of misuse of allocation. and not ,if possible, to increase its rate of consumption.
So sorry ASh Alan and used, if have confused you!
BTWI agree with you three that production should be increased but I do not think there is any real possibility of that happening.
Ash: "I'm still not understanding how you arrive at the conclusion that prices for most consumer items will continue increasing, when you acknowledge how inflexible the current structure is"
1. My reply emphasized the high FLEXibility of human/consumer responses to price increases and other stresses. Whether or not the "current structure is inflexible", responses to the stresses in question will be adaptive. I addressed the big line-items in the household budget (rent, car, healthcare, entertainment, etc.), and described how they can change, without terrible difficulty, to accomodate much higher food/sundry prices. Most middle-class households will only have to make a change in one of the big areas, in order to make ends meet again. My reply did not emphasize, as maybe it should have, the fact that I am talking about the average middle-middle American, not the large and growing underclass, and the borderline-impoverished. That's a very big problem, I admit, and it is going to get worse. I don't mean to make light of the very real suffering that will occur, for many.
2. Prices for most consumer items will increase because of global demand (and hence price pressure) for the underlying commodities, particularly but not exclusively energy. There may be a global financial collapse, or even to some degree (for a short time) an economic collapse or moment of great crisis, but there will not an industrial/infrastructural collapse. Global demand is not going to retreat on any sustained basis. If it does, it will be a brief spike, like 2008. The fundamental reasons are these: The world is filled with billions of young, energetic people who want, and deserve, a better life. The world is also filled with resources, technologies, manufacturing and other productive capabilities, and intelligence, easily sufficient to allow that. People will not be denied a better life. "TPTB" can modify and give shape to mass will and desire, but cannot thwart it. People will not march silently back to feudalism and bitter constraint. They simply won't, no matter what the TV starts barking at them, and no matter what anyone tells them about debt, and "living within our means", and global warming. If global capital markets collapse, they will re-organize and find another way, probably a quite creative one. They will not be denied. They've been awakened, in both good ways and bad, by modernity, and there is no turning back, now. I emphasize: this is both good and bad. I also emphasize that when I speak of "people" I am speaking of a younger, more fresh and vital global crowd; not so much people here in the West. The West is tired and spent, groaning under heavy bureaucracies and decades of terribly wrong decisions. East and West might both take a big hit, financially and economically. But the East will rebound, healthier than ever, while the West won't. Its a civilizational thing. See: Spengler, et alia.
Skilo: "What is the best smoking gun evidence there is that unlimited money is being borrowed and thrown at the gold and silver markets?"
I linked in past posts on this thread to gata.org items that are helpful. There's much more; gata.org is THE best source for info.
India,Arab countries,and many other contries people are hoarding gold.
Someone here posted a video of Indonasia and over there nobody keeps money and all they do is keep gold.
Many people in USA and other modern countried have started to hoarding gold recently.
That mentality is right but another factor comes into play here and that is gold on paper and wall street.
Now the scene is different
All those people who got into this thing by fluke are all excited
They start to buy more and more.
They are happy
They buy more
What I am trying to say is that we have enormeous amount of money invested by individuals and who know how many trillions
I think it has been going up 10 years
So figure out the rest.
Alan2012 said:
Which is -- and I am not kidding about this -- why we need to start talking right now about alternative meds and tech for depression, anxiety, insomnia, panic attacks, and all the other stress and psychiatric problems that people will be having more than ever…We need to start developing affordable alternatives and services that people can grow/manufacture/do for themselves.
Yes, it’s called “POT” or in less plain terms ‘Marijuana”; cheap, easy to grow without requiring much in the way of inputs, and with a number of medical benefits perhaps including anti-cancer properties. And the use of which is no less moral than the use of alcohol imho.
A couple of plants next to the tomatoes could likely provide a years supply. Not that I would do that because as soon as the authorities discovered them they would dig into my personal finances and decide that what I have would have to have been illegally acquired and confiscate it all; guilty until proven innocent of course.
Besides “Big Pharma” needs to control these things. Can’t have people figuring out how to take care of themselves.
I think the US government debt can be paid off
Al they have to do is play a number on the gold bugs
Than we might not see a depression.
I am just getting started in this field and already I coming up with amazing ideas
Used said:]]
"Gold does not perform when Inflation is high ie: 1980-2001."
Of course it does, you big silly, it tracked oil perfectly during that timeframe! You really got to get a grasp on what real wealth is and what are mere paper proxies ... and rather absurdly inaccurate proxies as well.
Alan2102
the fact that I am talking about the average middle-middle American
What would characterize this US-izen as far as age, pretax gross income and overall net worth?
muchtooloose said...
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"Gold does not perform when Inflation is high ie: 1980-2001."
Of course it does, you big silly, it tracked oil perfectly during that timeframe! You really got to get a grasp on what real wealth is and what are mere paper proxies ... and rather absurdly inaccurate proxies as well.
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Surely you must by now understand i was referring to Gold $ price?
If you want to measure by Gold-sure-
In that case we've been in deflation since 1980-
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Alan,
The fact that industrial infrastructure will survive financial collapse is not a good thing for your argument. That just means there is excess capacity in the face of falling demand in already oversupplied markets. At first, I thought you disagreed with Freegold because it was too idealistic, but it seems your unrelenting faith in the capitalist market system exceeds that of even FGAs. People love to call that a "faith in humanity" or the "human spirit", but it's not. It's faith in a system whose death is just as evident in China as it is in Europe and the US. The entire Chinese economy has been built on cheap production costs, speculative financial investment and reliable export markets, not to mention a stable ecology. All of those things are disappearing now, along with the dreams of a large, sustainable Chinese middle class. If you thought the Americans and Europeans were going to get (getting) mad...
The most important thing about money is that people agree to use it as a medium of exchange or a social lubricant. In practice, however, money is a mirror that shows human nature at its worst. None of us will live long enough to see humanity evolve to the point where discussions of money are not unpleasant...if it ever does. All one can do is to try to honestly understand one's strengths and limitations, to see clearly the world one has been thrown into, and to fit in as best as possible. Success is not a crime as long as it is achieved by honesty and fairness in dealing with other human beings, as my grandfather said, "by helping other people." Genuine success involves compassion and help for others less successful for whatever reason and neverending vigilance against that pathologic mutant strain of Homo sapiens that views its brethren with contempt and as objects for manipulation to achieve vast excesses of unnecessary lucre. Sane people jump off the gerbil wheel once they reach a point in life where their basic needs are not threatened. Enriching the mind is the best energy consumption.
With apologies for my rant.
@Seychelles
That ain't a rant. It's simply a good and useful truth.
Don't say it to the guards, though, or they'll increase everybody's meds.
To measure anything takes a “ standard”, to measure it against. Our view of the world is profoundly influenced by the standard we use at any given moment.
The standard and the view, taken together, are a 'frame of reference.'
People once thought the sun circled the earth because that's how it looked. Their frame of reference was a viewpoint standing on the ground using the motionless horizon as a standard .
Once they got a better frame of reference ( viewing earth and sun from the better vantage point of an imaginary position in space ) they saw it was actually the other way around.
In like fashion, changing the frame of reference about value influences the way people see the economic world.
For example, it's easy right now for people with lots of gold ( obtained earlier, cheaper ) to sell it for huge profits if the buyers' frame of reference measures the value of the gold by the standard of its price expressed in today's dollar.
At $2K/ounce, everyone thinks, “Hey! That's a lot of money! ” So they sell. And the price frenzy is proof that they ARE selling. The same amount of gold that was here yesteryear now soaks up ten times the amount of cash today that it did then. Like a handi-wipe for spilled cash.
But what if the same Oligarchs, at the same time, also want to GET a lot of gold? The math looks bad. It would take the cash they just got, plus a little more, just to get the same weight back. That won't do.
What's needed is a different 'frame of reference' of what gold is worth.
Nothin' to it.
Remember the cash sponged up from selling gold? Use it to buy T-Bills and other sovereign debt. Lots of it. Until countries are so deep in hock, and so broke, that they make Ray Charles' “Busted” sound like “ Pennies From Heaven. ”
Soon the debtors are crying for mercy ( and cash to service the debt.)
“ Okay,” says the Oligarch, “ I'm a reasonable guy. Instead of paying me back with cash (worthless crap that it now is ) just put up collateral in gold, and every other hard asset you've got left to feed your children, and I'll hold off . Hell, I might even loan you more... at higher interest, of course.”
Since gold is NOW valued in Astro-Dollars it actually looks feasible. Hell, the debtors think greedily to themselves, we bought it from him at $200 and now the fool will pay TEN TIMES that much just to get it back! Hell yes we'll deal!
Congratulations, Mr or Mrs Oligarch, on successfully changing the frame of reference.
When SELLING gold/assets the Lord & Lady got folks to measure the value of weak gold relative to powerful dollars. That made the gold/assets look like a bargain, so buyers sucked them up like free beer.
When BUYING the gold/assets back ( that is : demanding collateral ) the Lord & Lady got folks to measure the transaction from a reversed frame of reference : strong gold/assets measured using weakening dollars as the yardstick. The inflated asset value (gold price) makes the trade look advantageous to the victim, so victims go for it, and the villains get their gold back... and a lot more.
And NEVER did the victims use the frame of reference that they should have used steadfastly all along : namely, the life value of their real resources ( land, water, minerals, infrastructure, etc.) And don't forget the BIGGEST fixed resource of all: the production capacity of the population!
Don't feel bad if this makes your brain feel twisted up. That's how and why they do it... mercilessly taking advantage of how our primate brains are wired up to always be looking for bargains.
( hint : In a closed system... there are no bargains. Believe it. )
It's cyclic, with the Oligarchic always one phase ahead, making it LOOK good for you in the present moment, when it's actually good only for them in the next.
Get smart or get taken. That's the nature of the game.
"Sane people jump off the gerbil wheel once they reach a point in life where their basic needs are not threatened."
To add to that, a insightful quote from Lord Keynes:
"When the accumulation of wealth is no longer of high social importance, there will be great changes in the code of morals. We shall be able to rid ourselves of many of the pseudo-moral principles which have hag-ridden us for two hundred years, by which we have exalted some of the most distasteful of human qualities into the position of the highest virtues. We shall be able to afford to dare to assess the money-motive at its true value. The love of money as a possession — as distinguished from the love of money as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life — will be recognised for what it is, a somewhat disgusting morbidity, one of those semi-criminal, semi-pathological propensities which one hands over with a shudder to the specialists in mental disease … But beware! The time for all this is not yet. For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. For only they can lead us out of the tunnel of economic necessity into daylight."
Alan 2102
While I don't use the term goldbug myself, it is a common term for people who have strong faith that physical gold will allow them to withstand the coming hard times and is not particularly derogatory or defamatory. I was surprised that you took such offense at it and held the commentariat here in such low esteem because they were persecuting you, despite the obvious fact that the moderator made special efforts to reinstall your long posts which the blogspot monster had eaten.
At the risk of "persecuting" you further, I found your long posting of particular interest. Not to repeat the entire thing, but the one which includes, " The world is filled with billions of young, energetic people who want, and deserve, a better life. The world is also filled with resources, technologies, manufacturing and other productive capabilities, and intelligence, easily sufficient to allow that. People will not be denied a better life."
While I truly wish this were correct, I am reasonably certain that it is not, and it forms the lynchpin of most of your arguments. Previous generations have eaten almost all the low hanging fruit, not just in terms of fossil fuels, but mineral ores, good top soil, destroyed forests, rain and other, ad infinitum. That the young of the world will rebel violently is pretty much a sure thing, but it will probably be a lot closer to a Clockwork Orange.
You also base your arguments on regarding so much of the Usanistani consumerate as middle-middle class. The middle class is rapidly disappearing into tent cities and living in their SUV's. This will accelerate in the near future when enforced, governmental austerity gets into full swing. And so much of the consumerate, in the urban ghettos and Joe Bageant's Redneck Nation, have been living on the edge for decades.
D. Benton Smith:
Try petroleum for your frame of reference for gold. That is the stuff that makes the world chug along right now. When that becomes a thing of the past I guess we will have to measure gold against good old yankee muscle power, if there is any of that still around. Ya load 16 tons of number nine coal and whaddya get? Hmmmm possibly a coronary an no chance of a bypass at that new world. Maybe we could rate gold against lard for the first little while. Git yer 100% pure ass-lard only a tentieth of a ounce a barrel ... run your diesel truck on it, or light your oil lamps ,,,, a real bargain at 1/20 of an oz
B. Benton,
Got carried a way a bit, I meant to suggest that you compare a graph of oil against the spot price of gold they do seem to be joined at the toe hip and teeth.
New post up.
Europe squanders its last shred of credibility
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Ash: "it seems your unrelenting faith in the capitalist market system exceeds that of even FGAs."
I don't know where that came from. Perhaps you missed the passage that I wrote: "If global capital markets collapse [i.e. IF CAPITALISM COLLAPSES], they will re-organize and find another way, probably a quite creative one." Do those words strike you as coming from a capitalism idolizer?
Ash: "The entire Chinese economy has been built on cheap production costs, speculative financial investment and reliable export markets, not to mention a stable ecology. All of those things are disappearing now, along with the dreams of a large, sustainable Chinese middle class."
Well, there's a whole lot to be said about that mouthful, and this is probably not a good venue for it. (Physically awkward, for one, or at least I find it so.) But briefly: China's growth has been driven by speculation AND by investment, both. A common ploy of China-bashers is to over-emphasize the speculative portion, ignoring the very real and vast productive and forward-looking investment that has taken place -- investments that will likely undergird global leadership in this century.
Dependent on export markets? Yes, they have been. But internal consumption is growing apace AND, more significantly, inter-BRIC and other trade (i.e. non-West-dependent trade) is also developing rapidly. The phenomenon is called "decoupling" -- as in decoupling of China from its trade benefactors, heretofore -- and it is coming right along. In another 10 years, it will be glaring and undeniable. Westerners just LOVE to think that "they can't make it without us!" And it has been true, up until now, and it will remain partially true for a few more years yet. But the ground is shifting below our feet. They are well on their way to leaving us behind, entirely.
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Stable ecology? I've become fairly familiar with China's environmental issues in recent years, and they are surely formidable. But equally formidable is the commitment they are making to correcting them. As just one example, you might want to google up the Chinese "Great Green Wall" project, one of the most ambitious ecological restoration/development initiatives in history. It is an incredible project, reflective of their ability to think in VERY long terms: it is planned to be completed in 2074! Amazing. Can you even imagine it? When was the last time anyone in the West proposed a project that would not be completed until long after the current generations were dead? Such a thing is not even conceivable, here. We can barely plan for the next quarter.
Anyway, you get the idea, I hope. Your view of China is IMO quite narrow and conditioned by Western propaganda and exceptionalism. And this is not entirely your fault; it is a more or less natural product of the environment in which you live. You have to make a vigorous and persistent effort to break out of the system of conditioning, in order to get at the truth. You have probably done this in other realms (I am guessing), but not this one. As an immediate example: If you were to take my advice and go googling for "great green wall", you might go right off to the Wikipedia writeup -- which itself is extremely negative, a highly imbalanced article, but par for the course from brainwashed Westerners who do not recognize their own brainwashing and partisanship. The same is true of most histories of contemporary China, from which it is all but impossible to emerge with a balanced and reality-based view of the Mao era, and that era in relation to what has happened since.
Speaking of this makes me chuckle again at that "unrelenting faith in the capitalist market system" comment of yours. If I were forced to characterize my political views in a phrase (ug!), I might settle for "Maoist Third-Worldist".
I do have "faith" of a sort in the developmental potential of capitalism, just as did Karl Marx. It has proven its mettle in that department, and it is a step up from feudalism. But of course it is not the end of the line; far from it.
El G: I am not offended and I don't feel "persecuted". Perhaps you did not notice the jocular smiley-face at the end of my post. Yes, we toss light insults at each other, but it is just part of manly repartee. No?
quoting El G: "Previous generations have eaten almost all the low hanging fruit, not just in terms of fossil fuels, but mineral ores, good top soil, destroyed forests, rain and other, ad infinitum."
This is not the place for a detailed examination of every item you raise. But in very brief:
-- topsoil is easy to regenerate
-- reforestation efforts are growing apace (pun not intended) and authoritative reports to which I can refer you indicate that deforestation has slowed, encouragingly, over the last 20 years
-- some fossil fuels (light sweet crude) are going to be a problem, but others (natural gas) are available in great abundance for at least the next century, on the eurasian land mass
-- meanwhile, alternative energies are growing exponentially and becoming MUCH more economically viable, even compelling, with high EROEI and great ROI
-- and so on!
I agree that we are entering a zone where resources will be regarded a lot differntly than in the past. Awareness of limits will grow, prices will rise (a LOT!), substitutes will be sought, conservation measures will be instituted, alternatives will be developed, etc.
I came to my point of view, FYI, by way of being a confirmed peak oil DOOMER as of about 2001. Then I started conducting my own, detailed investigation of things, rather than just swallowing the neo-Malthusian propaganda uncritically.
I don't agree that the middle class is "disappearing". Not yet. But I do agree that a lot of it is under great stress, and many ARE slipping down, out of it.
PP: "I'm not insulting you"
And I didn't think you were.
PP: "existential crises bearing down on modern industrial civilization."
I think they are existential crises bearing down most hard on the U.S., and the West in general, and on the global capitalistic system that is largely sustained/perpetrated by the West, with it's centers in New York and London, and a few other places. The U.S. and the West will fall, and it won't be pretty, and it will last a long time -- a generation at least; maybe forever (can't see that far). I don't see this as an existential crisis of industrial civilization, globally. There are plenty of resources to power industry for many decades and -- yes -- renewable energies will come online (ARE coming online) to power it after that. That does NOT mean that the wild excesses that have characterized the last 50 years of turbo-capitalism (or whatever one might call it) can be sustained forever; of course they cannot. But wild excesses are just that: 1) wild, and 2) excess. Because someone cannot tolerate a quart of hard liquor per day does not mean that they cannot handle a couple glasses of wine with dinner.
PP: "..... So it's only a matter of time before we get things all sorted out no problem, and we'll just seamlessly transition to some technofantasy green future, yadda, yadda."
Jeez! You really haven't been paying much attention to my posts, have you?
WHOOPS! DRAT! posted the above to the wrong darn thread; sorry. Meant for it to go on the new thread. Mods: delete the above (and this) if you can or want to.
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