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Ilargi: Now John Thain calls Ken Lewis a liar. Who called Hank Paulson a liar. Who called Bernanke a liar. Who is a liar. They all are. The end and the means. Their ends justify their means. I see people like Kunstler are back starting to try and see clever plans in Obama's approach too. More justified means. The country has ways of figuring out this kind of mess. It’s called the judicial system. And if Obama hasn't started a full-blown investigation into securities fraud yet concerning the lot of them, he's an accomplice, no matter what his means or his ends. It's not hard, it can start today. A president who doesn't live by and execute, the law, while having knowledge of criminal activity, is no president. I think people just simply can't stand to lose their dreams just yet, they wish to believe there will be change. And they figure that if they listen long enough they’ll find a way. Yeah, the darkness can be scary.
34 comments:
From the previous post - I. Emma Toade - is this the worst pseudonym of all time? Is it a joke comment directed at me/other commentors?
I have to keep asking...whom would have taken the loss at the failure of the banks...it would have been the bank bondholders ,right?So why is the public expected to make things right for someone who made a bad investment?I thought that was the nature of capitalism..getting your fingers burned for investing in a company that takes un-warranted risk with your money?ehh?
I would ask I&S again if there is a way of checking the various pensions to see which ones are stable?If any are...
snuffy
Does I Emma Toade know about Ima Hogg of Texas fame?
http://www.famoustexans.com/imahogg.htm
I'm no fan of Alex Jones, but this might make sense:
"Medical Director: Swine Flu Was "Cultured In a Laboratory"http://www.infowars.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laboratory/
I think you have it wrong Ilargi. It is not Jim Kunstler that has a clever excuse for Obama. It is Charles Hugh Smith. Both very bright guys.
The Northern Lights article sure does make you think how truly insignificant we are in this universe. When our sun supernovas, and turns the earth back into stardust, it really won't matter what ever happened here at all....
Re: the He said/He said Circus
Ummm... I get the story. I understand the facts and allegations. What I don't get is the outrage. Is it a game of false indignation being played that nobody told me about?
First, what is alleged to have happened with BoA is exactly what they did to the Congress to get them to vote for the TARP originally.
So we're surprised others were pressured, too? Please...
Second, at the time of the acquisition people were whispering about twisted arms and such.
Again, we're now surprised?
Entertaining... I'll sit and watch the show while a little Black Swine, sorry, Swan flies up out of Mexico looking to grow into a big, fat, poisonous Black Swan.
Cheers
The timing of this flight to safety caused by the swine flu panic is convenient timing considering they have a 30year bond auction on the 29th. Hmmm.
Ahimsa said
"I'm no fan of Alex Jones, but this might make sense"
make sense of WHAT?
Just heard the tail end of this on 'The Current' this morning.
A CBC news journal program.
All about Goldman Sachs. The Cat is out of the bag.(part 3)
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2009/200904/20090427.html
Part three interview with David Cay Johnston.
Direct link MP3
http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/currentdonotusethis_20090427_14800.mp3
Rapidshare link if the above disappears.
woops here is rapidshare link.
good for 10 downloads.
http://rapidshare.com/files/226445004/currentdonotusethis_20090427_14800.mp3.html
People might find these videos entertaining:
Interview of prof Black by Moyers:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/watch.html
Islandic interview of prof Hudson (video is little down and has Icelandic 30sec intro). Hudson calls for abandoning IMF ticket for Iceland :-)
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=337506660&blogId=481750072
Sorry, don't know how to make those as links :-(
EBrown said...
I. Emma Toade - is this the worst pseudonym of all time? Is it a joke comment directed at me/other commentors?
April 27, 2009 2:19 PM "
Well I might take offence if I read you to mean ill intent on my part, but I don't see how that could be, so I will happpily answer: 'What a delight if it were so' and to the second 'was made to', not, 'directed at'.
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ilargi
Now John Thain calls Ken Lewis a liar. Who called Hank Paulson a liar. Who called Bernanke a liar. Who is a liar. They all are.
Now unlike Hugh Smith's conspiracy lite, but happy, theory, here could be one that is based not on only supposition, but with the idea that, 'to defeat one's enemy one first should drive them mad'.
My question to you, ilargi, is who or what got these guys fighting amongst each other, I am afraid I missed that chapter in this saga. There, possibly, may lie the making of a plot?
-Shiprack-
From "The New Angst at the Heart of Germany":
"The economic meltdown has rattled the confidence of the skilled workers at the heart of the German economic and social model.
For the first time since World War II, Germany's middle class has been shaken to the core.
The crisis has undermined the strong sense of self-confidence which used to be exuded by the social classes at the core of the modern German economic model.
They are ready to show those slick men with their striped shirts and Anglo-Saxon business buzzwords what they are capable of, even in a time of crisis. And they are ready to do that, not as cunning freeloaders, but as a self-confident community that never loses its sense of perspective -- even when the government in Berlin is at a complete loss."Who writes this drivel?
Re: Charles Hugh Smith. I believe some Obama supporters are now reaching the 'rationalization' stage.
After all, until now, they have had absolutely no problem dismissing away what is already well known regarding BHO: absolutely not one single friend/contact prior to 3-4 years ago (excepting Wright), complete lack of exec mgmt experience, total absence of any medical/school records, 20 yrs w/ Wright's black nationalist church, repeated comments regarding re-distributionist tax/social policies, Chicago machine politics, etc.
Perhaps most troubling, is that he really appears to have some sort of organic brain damage in that he is completely unable to speak coherently without a 'prompter in front of him.
In addition, his budget proposal spells out exactly what he wishes to achieve: gov't health care, energy control and income re-distribution. To that end, he has no clue regarding the current FIRE economy, only that he was certainly counting on it to provide a sufficient platform in which to construct his ambitious socialist policies. Thus we have repeated, numerous and egregious unConstitional actions taken in the name of nat'l (financial) security.
To think that he has some master plan up his sleeve is utterly preposterous. What you see with BHO is exactly what he is: a uniquely unqualified person who is presiding over the collapse of the USA.
This game is over & done with. It's going to be mighty interesting when the SHTF begins in earnest.
I think you have it wrong Ilargi. It is not Jim Kunstler that has a clever excuse for Obama. It is Charles Hugh Smith. Both very bright guys.
No. I'm not wrong. i know quite a bit of what Jim has written on Obama. And bright people can be blinded by faith and hope as well, though maybe it takes somewhat brighter lights to do it with.
"Medical Director: Swine Flu Was "Cultured In a Laboratory"
Ahimsa - somebody is going to get a hernia from the strain of concocting a conspiracy out of this. Of course it was cultured in a lab - that is where samples from infected people are cultured so the pathogens can then be identified. To try to twist that statement to fit into some form of evil conspiracy is simply nutty. The story is full of other inaccuracies, too. You could go so far as to say it is "rubbish".
@APC I've worked both for and with the kind of German technocrats the Spiegel article is talking about. They vary all over the map, like any other set of people, but about 95% of them have egos the same size as the Wall St. 'Masters of the Universe'. They have a similar high opinion of German (Austrian, Swiss)culture relative to any other. Anglo-Saxons tend to get a little extra venom because we've been squatting in Germany's rightful place in the sun for the last couple of centuries.
That's Spiegel's target audience. The author is pandering to it as thoroughly and even more blatantly than Evans-Pritchard does to his.
The parallels in the ends justify the means thinking between the bailouts and the torture regime are not just close. They are perfect.
I am no wet behind the ears naif, the US has always tortured and in matters of high finance the laws were always avoided if at all possible. The thing is that until now the pretense of purity was always maintained by the appropriate executive authorities, the legislative players and the main stream press.
Bye bye to all that. Nobody even pretends anymore.
You can't wake a person
who is pretending to be asleep.
It is better to live one day
as a lion, than a hundred years as a sheep.
Stoneleigh - you're a fan of Bob Prechter's The Wave Principle of Human Social Behavior and the New Science of Socionomics. Are you and Ilargi much taken with technicals? I never hear you speak of pennants and winters much, so figured you weren't in that camp, at least as a predictive tool. I have Prechter's Tidal Wave and Crash Conquer books, find the whole technical analysis subject of interest post facto, but the fact that millions of traders use it daily would seem to put the kibosh on it for any meaningful detection of trends. What say you?
Hey Gravity love the first one but on the second you never know what a sheep is thinking and did you know that a yeld female can have a bite rate of 30 to 50 per minute? and a lactating female is even faster? At that rate your lion would not live out that single day!
...and woo if they ever figure out how to hold those pitchforks, eh>?
I know your are not the kind of Gravity that gets himself beyond the event horizon but I'll put in a smiley face anyway:)
-Rucksac the Sailor-
A note on alex jones:
He cant help but see a conspiracy here, and indeed anywhere, he's been "reporting" for months on Fema's involvement with pandemic preparations, involving plastic coffins and sites for mass graves.
These kinds of preparations
are not suspicious of themselves, and should be considered a precautionary measure, as a pandemic event is long overdue anyhow.
His particular disorder tends to establish unlikely connections between otherwise unrelated factoids, and is as such prone to over-stimulation when it comes to this kind of event.
Although he has very little journalistic integrity, some of his material is useful and informative when viewed with appropriate scepticism, if only to gauge the mindset of the tinfoil-hat crowd.
Stoneleigh, what's with alpacas? we were walking by a farm with some off in the distance (as usual) but today we were walking a dog as well and they came rushing up to about 30 feet away and one started making sounds like a rusted clothes line pulley. Is that their usual greeting or warning or what was that. I assume they were more interested in the dog than us?
Rucksac the Sailor-
Rucksac, I believe alpacas dislike dogs, and they're certainly capable of killing a dog that gets too close.
Rucksack - the truth about-
the alpacalypse
New post up -sort of-
Oooh Greenpa, I will go nay more to the high meadow, as truly I did hear that same scourge of the pipes as I viddyed those dread creatures. Stoneleigh must be of fine and stern metal indeed, to cosset such darthlike beasties.
-Rucksac of the Trembling-
@ anon
"What you see with BHO is exactly what he is: a uniquely unqualified person who is presiding over the collapse of the USA."
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Geee! Too bad that your only alternative was even worst with finance.
jal
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Hello,
@ APC who wrote "Who writes this drivel?"
I was wondering how people might react to that "article". It was written by a sociologist, Heinz Bude, who teaches at the University of Kassel. It is labelled as "opinion".
To me, the tone was straight out of a propaganda document, something like, say, a scenario for a soviet film from the 1930s on the heroism of border guards. Interesting from a "sociological" point of view (i.e. for analysis purposes), particularly because it was written by a sociologist, but nothing more.
Ciao,
FB
Has Krugman finally woken up, half a year after his Fake Nobel and the sauna-pool of Aquavit that came with it? I’m not holding ny breath.It was voted on and presented to him by the Nobel comittee in Stockholm, Sweden. Don't see what "fake" means in this context.
Forgetting to define our terms Ilargi?
Or is that standard for the "other" self-appointed demi-gods commenting here from the sidelines?
:-)
Anonymous, regarding Obama, do you think that our owners are going to let us elect someone that isn't going to promote their agenda?
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