Wednesday, December 15, 2010

December 15 2010: Debunking Gonzalo Lira and Hyperinflation

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Ilargi: When I first saw the Gonzalo Lira pieces, it took me less than five minutes to delete them. Their basis is simply too slim: if A happens, than B. C and D must also happen. Yeah, but what if A does not happen? A lot of our readers didn't see what was obvious to me from the get-go, and kept asking for a riposte. So here's Stoneleigh, who does it better than anyone.

By the way: it really is this simple: as long as the US sells its debt on the international markets, hyperinflation is entirely impossible. No ifs or buts. The simplicity may be deceiving, and apparently is for many, but sometimes things really are that simple. (Almost) nobody bought German debt in 1923, or Zimbabwe's in 2000 or thereabouts.

In order to achieve hyperinflation, you first need economic and financial isolation. Ergo: if for instance Greece leaves the eurozone, it could go that road. The US, however, will be kept in check by the markets for quite a while to come. And at the right price (re: interest rate), the markets will be willing takers. Hyperinflation in the US is a long way away.

Stoneleigh: Some time ago, Gonzalo Lira wrote a couple of interesting pieces on hyperinflation, and I promised to respond to them. This has taken me a while, as there is much material to go through, many arguments to pick apart, areas of agreement and disagreement, differences in definitions and matters of timing.

The first article, How Hyperinflation Will Happen, is a long, thoughtful and detailed piece that I found interesting. There are many aspects I fundamentally disagree with, however, some for reasons of substance and others for reasons of timing. 

Essentially the central proposition is that the US dollar is in danger of imminent demise due to a widespread loss of confidence, and that treasuries will be dumped en masse within a year, leading to hyperinflation, by which Mr Lira means price spikes. I do not see a loss of confidence in the dollar going forward, at least not soon. We have seen a long slide in the value of the dollar coincident with the rally in stocks. This is a reflection of a resurgence of confidence in being invested rather than being liquid, but this confidence is fragile and subject to rapid reversal. 

I regard the extremely bearish sentiment regarding the dollar specifically as typical of a bottom. Trends take time to become established as received wisdom, and by the time they come to be generally accepted, they are much closer to an end than a beginning. When everyone is bearish, and has acted upon that sentiment, who is left to carry the trend any further in that direction? Market insiders will be taking the other side of the bet, as they always do at turning points. This is how they make their money - by recognizing and feeding off the sentiment of the herd.

When the market rally tops, I expect people to begin chasing liquidity in earnest - too late for many, as liquidity will get much harder to come by. Only a small minority will be able to cash out at the top. I fully expect the dollar to surge in relation to other currencies when this happens, on a knee-jerk flight to safety into the reserve currency as the least-worst option. At that time, I would not expect the US to have difficulties selling treasuries, because I think they will be regarded as the safest option in a horribly unsafe world. This is not rational, as the US is far past the point of no return on repaying its debt, but rationality is not the point, as herding impulses are never rational.

I would also expect the purchasing power of the remaining dollars (i.e. physical cash, of which there is actually very little) to increase substantially in relation to available goods and services domestically, as dollars will be both scarce and essential once credit virtually ceases to exist. Central authorities cannot print cash to alter this situation, as this would trigger an enormous increase in the risk premium charged by the bond market. Hence, cash will remain scarce, and people will hoard what little there is, compounding the effect of deflation through a fall in the velocity of money. In this regard, my view is diametrically opposed to Mr Lira's.

I see far more imminent problems ahead for the euro than for the US dollar. I expect the shift from optimism to pessimism, that will define the end of the stock market rally, to lead to a rapid resurgence of fear over sovereign debt default risk in Europe. This can only exacerbate the widening regional disparities, and I think it will widen them to breaking point, for the eurozone and perhaps later for the EU itself. 

As I have said before, the austerity measures coming for the whole European periphery are going to be severe enough to amount to political suicide for domestic politicians to implement. I think peripheral countries will choose to leave the euro, however high the cost of doing so, as the cost of staying in the eurozone could be even higher. If this does in fact happen, I think we would see an Argentine scenario, where savings are converted into the local currency (which would probably fall even compared with a falling euro), while debts remain in euros. These unpayable debts would then be defaulted on somewhat later. The level of uncertainty would almost certainly lead to massive capital flight from Europe, to America's temporary benefit.

Naturally the dollar, like all fiat currencies, will eventually die, but I would argue that the time for that is not now. A dollar rally could be measured in years, although not many by any means. My best guess is that we would see perhaps a year or two of dollar rally in a world going increasingly haywire. After that I expect an end to the system of floating currencies, with all manner of attempts at competitive devaluation, currency pegs established and rapidly blown away, and beggar-thy-neighbour policies all round. The risk of currency reissue will rise over time, and be highly locational. I think the risk of reissue in the US is not imminent, but in Europe it should be a much larger concern, especially in peripheral countries.

I agree with this passage from Mr Lira's article:
But this Fed policy—call it “money-printing”, call it “liquidity injections”, call it “asset price stabilization”—has been overwhelmed by the credit contraction. Just as the Federal government has been unable to fill in the fall in aggregate demand by way of stimulus, the Fed has expanded its balance sheet from some $900 billion in the Fall of ’08, to about $2.3 trillion today—but that additional $1.4 trillion has been no match for the loss of credit. At best, the Fed has been able to alleviate the worst effects of the deflation—it certainly has not turned the deflationary environment into anything resembling inflation.

Yields are low, unemployment up, CPI numbers are down (and under some metrics, negative)—in short, everything screams “deflation”. 

This has been occurring under the most favourable of circumstances - a major rally during which people are prepared to suspend disbelief and give central authorities the benefit of the doubt. In all this time, and with all its efforts, the Fed has only been able to slow deflation. Once we turn the corner, confidence (and therefore liquidity) will evaporate again, and the headwind against the Fed will get very much stronger. 

If they could not stop deflation under favourable circumstances, their odds of doing so under unfavourable ones must be extremely low. Periods of intense pessimism are not kind to central authorities. Everything they do is too little and too late. Every time they try and fail they look more desperate, which only acts to confirm people's pessimism in a self-reinforcing spiral. Deflation has a massive psychological component, which the Fed has no tools to fight.

The second major proposition Mr Lira makes is that commodity prices will spike as a consequence of a meltdown in the treasury market:
At the time of the panic, commodities will be perceived as the only sure store of value, if Treasuries are suddenly anathema to the market—just as Treasuries were perceived as the only sure store of value, once so many of the MBS’s and CMBS’s went sour in 2007 and 2008. 

It won’t be commodity ETF’s, or derivatives—those will be dismissed (rightfully) as being even less safe than Treasuries. Unlike before the Fall of ’08, this go-around, people will pay attention to counterparty risk. So the run on commodities will be for actual, feel-it-’cause-it’s-there commodities.

As I do not think such a treasury meltdown is imminent, I do not think such knock-on consequences are imminent either. In contrast, I think we are already seeing evidence of a top in commodities, which typically peak on fear of scarcity. I regard the sentiment indicators as strong evidence of such fear, and am therefore looking for a reversal, roughly coincident with a stock market top and a dollar bottom. 

We have already seen significant speculative gains in commodities, similar to 2008, and I think that speculation will go into reverse, probably quite sharply. I would then expect a demand collapse to carry prices further to the downside. As I see a speculative reversal followed by a demand collapse setting up a supply collapse, I can see Mr Lira's scenario possibly playing out in the future, quite possibly coincident with a bond market dislocation as he suggests. It is difficult to predict the timing for such an event, but I see it as being much further in the future than he does.

Because of my objection to the timing, I disagree with Mr Lira's next assertion:
People—regular Main Street people—will be crazy to buy up commodities (heating oil, food, gasoline, whatever) and buy them now while they are still more-or-less affordable, rather than later, when that $15 gallon of gas shoots to $30 per gallon. 
If everyone decides at roughly the same time to exchange one good—currency—for another good—commodities—what happens to the relative price of one and the relative value of the other? Easy: One soars, the other collapses.

When people freak out and begin panic-buying basic commodities, their ordinary financial assets—equities, bonds, etc.—will collapse: Everyone will be rushing to get cash, so as to turn around and buy commodities....[..]

.....This sell-off of assets in pursuit of commodities will be self-reinforcing: There won’t be anything to stop it. As it spills over into the everyday economy, regular people will panic and start unloading hard assets—durable goods, cars and trucks, houses—in order to get commodities, principally heating oil, gas and foodstuffs. In other words, real-world assets will not appreciate or even hold their value, when the hyperinflation comes.

In my view, by the time we see a commodity price spike, the value of people's financial assets will already have evaporated, they will already have unloaded hard assets, and the dash for cash will already be in the past. I think at that point we will be well into a state of economic seizure, where credit will have disappeared, unemployment will have spiked, incomes will be very precarious, scarce cash will be being hoarded and it will be exceptionally difficult to connect buyers and sellers. Consequently, I do not see most people being in a position to engage in panic buying. 

Some many be able to do this, but I think the resource grab is more likely to be a phenomenon operating at the level of the state than at the level of the individual, as most individuals will already have lost almost all their purchasing power. In my opinion, states will certainly engage in a resource grab, and will take supplies off the market, either by sending the tanks or the bilateral contract negotiators into resource-rich regions. States know perfectly well that oil is liquid hegemonic power, and they will be trying to secure their supply in whatever way they can.

I agree with Mr Lira that almost everything will be very much less affordable than it is now, and that this will happen quickly. I do not agree that prices will rise in nominal terms, or that this is in any way a requirement of a drastic fall in affordability. I expect prices to fall in nominal terms, but for purchasing power to fall much more quickly as credit evaporates. Thus as prices fall in nominal terms, affordability decreases, and the essentials end up being the least affordable of all. They will receive relative price support as a much larger percentage of a much smaller money supply ends up chasing them, hence any fall in their prices should be much smaller than for other goods and services. Thus I agree with Mr Lira that the essentials will be drastically less affordable, but I do not think nominal prices need to rise for this to happen.

When we see the inevitable price spike in the future, once demand collapse has led to supply collapse, we could easily see price increases in nominal terms. Against a backdrop of monetary contraction, this would mean prices were going through the roof in real terms (ie adjusted for changes in the money supply). Being able to obtain essentials will be a huge problem, and I fully expect ordinary people to be priced out of the market for many things at that point. 

Their survival may then depend on rationing and bare-minimum level handouts. I think the problem will begin before this though, as a collapse in purchasing power prevents people buying essentials for lack of money long before essentials actually become scarce.

The next point of contention between my view and Mr Lira's is his discussion of Japan's fortunes:
That’s right: The parallels with Japan are remarkably similar—except for one key difference. Japanese sovereign debt is infinitely more stable than America’s, because in Japan, the people are savers—they own the Japanese debt. In America, the people are broke, and the Nervous Nelly banks own the debt. That’s why Japanese sovereign debt is solid, whereas American Treasuries are soap-bubble-fragile. 

In my view, we are looking at a Japanese scenario in some ways, but on more of an Argentine timeline. Japan has been mired in a long and drawn out deflation, because they had an enormous pile of money to burn through before having to address their banking problems and also because they had an export-oriented economy at a time when they could exploit the largest consumer boom in global history. We are not so fortunate. We find ourselves in a huge debt hole, and as the economic seizure will be global, we will not be able to export our way out of anything, even if we still had yesterday's productive capacity, which is in any case long gone thanks to global wage arbitrage.

I do not regard Japanese sovereign debt as solid. In fact I think Japan is very close to the final day of reckoning where the problems of the past must finally be faced head on. I see a banking collapse in their near future, compounded by their extreme dependence on imported resources, which they will not be able to afford if their export markets die for lack of consumers with purchasing power.

The main point of contention I have with Mr Lira centres around the longer-term prospects for the USA:
Instead, after a spell of hyperinflation, America will end up pretty much like it is today—only with a bad hangover. Actually, a hyperinflationist spell might be a good thing: It would finally clean out all the bad debts in the economy, the crap that the Fed and the Federal government refused to clean out when they had the chance in 2007–’09. It would break down and reset asset prices to more realistic levels—no more $12 million one-bedroom co-ops on the UES. 

And all in all, a hyperinflationist catastrophe might in the long run be better for the health of the U.S. economy and the morale of the American people, as opposed to a long drawn-out stagnation. Ask the Japanese if they would have preferred a couple-three really bad years, instead of Two Lost Decades, and the answer won’t be surprising.

I do not see this as a transitory problem leading back to business as usual, and I mean NEVER returning to what we would now regard as business as usual, let alone doing so in only a couple of years. 

Deflation and depression are mutually reinforcing. This is a persistent dynamic that should last at least as long as the last depression, and likely longer as every parameter is worse going into depression this time. We have more debt, far more structural dependencies (on cheap energy and cheap credit primarily), looming resource limitations, far higher expectations, a much larger population, a far smaller skill base etc. 

I think we are looking at an economic catastrophe of unprecedented proportions, not a bump in the road that can be quickly consigned to history, if only we face our problems head on. In my view we are going to have to live through deflationary deleveraging, a long and grinding depression, and then quite possibly hyperinflation once the international debt financing model is broken, and with it the power of the bond market to constrain currency printing. 

This could easily take twenty years to play out, and even then the upheaval is very unlikely to be over. The last time a major bubble burst - the South Sea Bubble of the 1720s - the aftermath lasted for several decades and culminated in a series of revolutions. This bubble is much larger, and the aftermath is likely to be proportional to the excesses of the preceding bubble. This is why I call the presentation I travel to deliver A Century of Challenges

Moreover, I do not see a return to what we consider to be business as usual at any point, because our business as usual scenario is critically dependent on cheap energy, and the energy subsidy inherent in fossil fuels has been a once in a planet's lifetime deal. We are going to be living on an energy income instead of an energy inheritance, and this will mean living a life none of us in the developed world will recognize.

Secret GOP plan: Push states to declare bankruptcy and smash unions
by James Pethokoukis - Reuters

Congressional Republicans appear to be quietly but methodically executing a plan that would a) avoid a federal bailout of spendthrift states and b) cripple public employee unions by pushing cash-strapped states such as California and Illinois to declare bankruptcy. This may be the biggest political battle in Washington, my Capitol Hill sources tell me, of 2011.

That’s why the most intriguing aspect of President Barack Obama’s tax deal with Republicans is what the compromise fails to include — a provision to continue the Build America Bonds program.  BABs now account for more than 20 percent of new debt sold by states and local governments thanks to a federal rebate equal to 35 percent of interest costs on the bonds. The subsidy program ends on Dec. 31.  And my Reuters colleagues report that a GOP congressional aide said Republicans “have a very firm line on BABS — we are not going to allow them to be included.”

In short, the lack of a BAB program would make it harder for states to borrow to cover a $140 billion budgetary shortfall next year, as estimated by the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. The long-term numbers are even scarier. Estimates of states’ unfunded liabilities to pay for retiree benefits range from $750 billion to more than $3 trillion.

Republicans in the House of Representatives already want to stop state and local governments from issuing tax-exempt bonds unless they are more forthright about these future obligations. Republican Representatives Devin Nunes and Darrell Issa of California and Paul Ryan of Wisconsin have introduced a bill that would require state and local governments to estimate the size of public pension liabilities if their assets earned a more conservative rate of return than many plans currently expect. Failure to do so would result in the suspension of their ability to issue tax-exempt bonds

Greater transparency on these obligations can’t be bad. In fact, the federal government itself would do well to report deficit numbers not just on the current cash-in, cash-out basis but also incorporating the underfunding of promised pension and healthcare benefits to retirees.

But it’s about more than just openness. Some Republicans hope the shock of the newly revealed debt totals will grease the way towards explicitly permitting states to declare bankruptcy. Indeed, legislation  amending federal bankruptcy law is currently being prepared by congressional Republicans. Local municipalities do declare bankruptcy from time to time, most famously California’s Orange County in 1994. But states can’t. Allowing them the same ability to renegotiate obligations could enable them to slash public employees’ lavish benefits, a big factor in their financial woes. In a recent issue of the The Weekly Standard, bankruptcy expert David Skeel of the University of Pennsylvania walks through the implications:
With liquidation off the table, the effectiveness of state bankruptcy would depend a great deal on the state’s willingness to play hardball with its creditors. The principal candidates for restructuring in states like California or Illinois are the state’s bonds and its contracts with public employees. Ideally, bondholders would vote to approve a restructuring. But if they dug in their heels and resisted proposals to restructure their debt, a bankruptcy chapter for states should allow (as municipal bankruptcy already does) for a proposal to be “crammed down” over their objections under certain circumstances. This eliminates the hold-out problem—the refusal of a minority of bondholders to agree to the terms of a restructuring—that can foil efforts to restructure outside of bankruptcy.

The bankruptcy law should give debtor states even more power to rewrite union contracts, if the court approves. Interestingly, it is easier to renegotiate a burdensome union contract in municipal bankruptcy than in a corporate bankruptcy. Vallejo has used this power in its bankruptcy case, which was filed in 2008. It is possible that a state could even renegotiate existing pension benefits in bankruptcy, although this is much less clear and less likely than the power to renegotiate an ongoing contract.

It wouldn’t be easy to change the law. Public employee unions have traditionally carried great influence with Democrats, even if President Barack Obama’s willingness to freeze their pay on the federal level suggests their clout may be waning.  From the Republican perspective, the fiscal crisis on the state level provides a golden opportunity to defund a key Democratic interest group. For the GOP, it’s an economic and political win.

Home Prices Falling Fast, Eroding American Wealth And Threatening Recovery
by William Alden and Shahien Nasiripour - Huffington Post

Plunging home prices hammered household finances in the third quarter, eroding homeowners' wealth and making them more vulnerable to foreclosure. As prices are expected to continue falling, the economic recovery could face a major stall.

Millions of homeowners saw their most valuable asset decay between July and September, according to recently released data from the Federal Reserve, as they lost a portion of the stake they can claim in their homes. A series of new reports reflects home prices are continuing to decline, increasing the pressure on America's tepid housing market. Until the market finds a bottom, the foreclosure epidemic will feed upon itself, analysts say, as foreclosed properties drive home values down. With the unemployment rate hovering near 10 percent, and with companies showing historic reluctance to hire, the housing drag poses a significant impediment to an economic recovery.

By the end of this year home prices will have dropped $1.7 trillion, or about 7 percent, according to, a real estate data provider. This decline has accelerated: Since August, home prices have fallen 7.9 percent, data from Clear Capital, a Truckee, Calif.-based real estate research firm, show. It is the steepest decline in home values since the height of the financial crisis in 2008, said Clear Capital senior statistician Alex Villacorta.

Worse, home prices are forecast to drop an additional 10 percent next year, according to a recent report from Fitch Ratings, a major credit ratings agency. Americans' grasp on their homes is weakening. Homeowners' equity, or the stake they can claim in their homes, dropped two percentage points to 38.8 percent in the third quarter, according to the new Fed data. The drop ended five quarters of steady growth since the figure hit its all-time low of 36.3 percent in the first quarter of 2009.

"There continues, of course, to be a backlog of foreclosed properties, or properties on their way to foreclosure," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, a Washington research group. "We're not about to see the end of foreclosures anytime soon."

The major problem, at this point, is the glut (and future glut) of distressed houses that haven't yet hit the market. When lenders repossess properties and put them up for sale, the influx of inventory on the market tends to drive prices down further, which in turn makes other properties more vulnerable to foreclosure. With repossessed or soon-to-be repossessed properties waiting in the wings, this "shadow inventory" will continue to depress the recovery, economists and housing experts say. As home prices continue to fall, more homeowners will see the value of their home drop below the value of their mortgage, plunging them "underwater."

Making matters worse, the Federal government's response to this crisis is widely considered to be a failure. The Obama administration's program, designed to help struggling homeowners, has, in some cases, done the exact opposite. After 1.5 million homeowners were invited to try the program last year, 40 percent were later kicked out. Complicated rules requiring a homeowner to be in default before getting a mortgage modification can actually cause a property to enter foreclosure.

"There's just this dogmatic resistance to think seriously about it, on the part of the government," Baker said of the foreclosure prevention program. "It's crazy. Is the point to give money to banks, or are you trying to help homeowners?" The pain isn't spread evenly. Some areas of the nation, such as California and Florida, have been hit especially hard. "Probably four or five states will account for more than half of the decline," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group. "A lot of that pain or loss will be concentrated in the same states where we've seen the decline up till now."

Leading economists, including former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, say a so-called "double-dip" recession -- a situation in which the economy shrinks again before resuming growth -- is possible if home prices significantly slide.

As the nation grapples with an unemployment rate of 9.8 percent, some homeowners simply don't have the means to pay down their debt. Even among Americans with good credit scores going into the financial crisis, one in seven reported that they weren't able to pay their bills, often because of a job loss. "It takes two things to cause a foreclosure or a default," said Celia Chen, an economist at Moody's Analytics. "It's both the loss of a job, or not enough income, and being underwater."

The bleak jobs situation isn't helped by cash-hoarding companies. The Federal Reserve reported that corporations increased their cash holdings 7.3 percent last quarter compared to the previous three-month period, setting a new record with $1.9 trillion in liquid assets. Their caution, experts say, is reflected in the lack of hiring: Businesses hired 50,000 workers last month, the slowest pace since June, according to Labor Department data. "They realize things could go bad relatively quickly, so they feel they have to protect themselves," said Gregory Daco, U.S. senior economist at IHS Global Insight, an economics forecasting firm. "That's in pair with not hiring."

Relative to their short-term liabilities, U.S. corporations haven't been this flush since 1956. By that same measure, their balance sheets are twice as strong as they were just nine years ago. While families struggle nationwide, corporations and large banks appear to be in full-fledged recovery. Last quarter, corporate profits reached an all-time high of $1.66 trillion on an annual basis, according to the Commerce Department.

Low bond yields, fat profits and flush corporate balance sheets have helped drive up the stock market, making household balance sheets appear to be on the mend. Despite the tanking housing market, household net worth rose 2.2 percent last quarter thanks to the rising value of stock portfolios. The Dow Jones Industrial Average increased 9.3 percent during that time.

The Dow "is right around where it was just before the big crash in September of '08," said Edward Friedman, an economist at Moody's Analytics. "Housing prices haven't really done anything, and those are the two major contributors to household wealth." This improvement has made Daco, of IHS, optimistic about the state of the economy. Although he acknowledged that "the housing sector is still in a relatively dire situation," he said "the stock market gains are reflecting a general improvement in the U.S. economy."

Daco predicted a sustainable, but uneven, recovery. Corporations will likely continue to hoard cash and home prices will continue to slide, but not enough to induce another recession, he said. "I don't think we can talk of a major risk of back-to-back recessions," he said. "I don't see that coming any time soon, given the sort of momentum we've been building up."

Fewer Homes 'Underwater' Last Quarter as Foreclosures Rose
by John Gittelsohn - Bloomberg

The number of U.S. homes worth less than the debt owed on them dropped in the third quarter, largely because of mounting foreclosures rather than a rise in property values, according to CoreLogic Inc. About 10.8 million homes, or 22.5 percent of those with mortgages, were "underwater" as of Sept. 30, the Santa Ana, California-based real estate information company said in a report today. That was down from 11 million, or 23 percent, at the end of June, the third straight quarterly decline.

Falling property values and unemployment near 10 percent have spurred a surge in foreclosures. The number of homes offered in foreclosure auctions averaged 110,000 a month in the third quarter compared with about 98,000 in the same period a year earlier, said Mark Fleming, CoreLogic’s chief economist. "There are two ways to reduce negative equity," Fleming said in a telephone interview today. "Price appreciation or disposition, which means people getting taken out of their homes. At the moment, there’s more disposition."

A further decline in prices threatens to increase the number of homeowners with negative equity, Fleming said. U.S. home values will probably drop $1.7 trillion this year after rising foreclosures and the expiration of buyer tax credits that boosted demand early in the year, Zillow Inc. said Dec. 9. More than $1 trillion of the drop came in the second half, according to Zillow, a Seattle-based real estate data company.

2012 Bottom
The asset value of real estate held by U.S. households fell by $649 billion in the third quarter to $16.6 trillion, the Federal Reserve said Dec. 9. Home prices may drop as much as 11 percent more through the first quarter of 2012 before finding a bottom, according to a Morgan Stanley report last week. "House prices are going to fall more next spring and that will bring more negative equity," Fleming said.

Negative equity discourages homeowners from maintaining their property or their payments, "because their financial interest (the equity) has disappeared and has only a small prospect of returning soon," CoreLogic said. About 2.4 million borrowers had less than 5 percent equity in their home from June through September, bringing the total amount of mortgaged homes underwater or near negative equity to 27.5 percent.

Banks seized a record of 288,345 homes in the third quarter, up 7 percent from the previous three months and 22 percent from a year earlier, RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based real estate data service, said in October.

Nevada Leads
In Nevada, 67 percent of homes with mortgages were underwater in the third quarter, more than any state, CoreLogic said. It also has the highest rate of foreclosure filings, with one in 79 households receiving a notice of default or foreclosure in October, according to RealtyTrac. Arizona had the second-highest percentage of underwater homes, at 49 percent, followed by Florida at 46 percent, Michigan at 38 percent and California at 32 percent, CoreLogic data show.

States with the lowest rate of underwater homes included Oklahoma at 6 percent, New York at 7 percent, Pennsylvania and North Dakota at 7.4 percent and Montana at 7.7 percent. The total value of negative equity in the period was $744 billion, compared with $800 billion at the end of 2009. The report is based on data from 48 million properties with mortgages, comparing public records of outstanding debt on first- and second-liens with CoreLogic’s proprietary valuation models for residential properties.

You Have To Admit, The Prospects For Defeating Deflation Do Not Look Very Good
by Joe Weisenthal - Business Insider

Earlier we mentioned how there will be a lot of focus on core CPI on Wednesday, to see if Bernanke's aggressive monetary action can finally create a little inflation.

It might, but you have to admit when looking at a really long-chart of core inflation, the trend is certainly not on our side. Deflation has been ruling since the inflation of the early 80s, with only brief breaks. Of course, this is a virtually identical chart to Treasury yields, which suggest that the bond bulls, though suffering at the moment, will probably get the last laugh.


Don't Look Now, But We're REALLY Close To A Deflationary Relapse
by Joe Weisenthal - Business Insider

This morning the government reported that core-CPI -- which excludes food and energy -- rose 0.1%, suggesting perhaps a move away from the deflationary brink.

But really it was all energy that pushed prices higher, and energy has a lot to do with what's happening in Asia, and not necessarily reflective of the domestic situation.

Take that out, and keep in food, and this is what you get.

chart of the day, cpi ex-energy, dec 2010

The U.S. Is Well On Its Way To Being In A Debt Trap
by Russ Winter - Wall Street Examiner

Commentary of economists Rogoff and Reinhart is often used as a point of reference concerning thresholds of debt levels that trigger a debt trap. After the publication of their book on the topic, there were rebuttals from the debt-doesn’t-really-matter crowd.

I did a cursory reading of these counterpoints and can only say that their arguments were circular, anal, counter-intuitive, and not even worth discussion. I really try to keep an open mind, but sometimes in life you come across people you know are BS’ing you. You know it because their lips are moving.

For those who argue it does matter, one number being tossed around is the level at which debt service equals 30 percent of tax revenues.  Once interest payments take 30% of tax revenues, a country has an out-of-control debt trap issue. When you think clearly about it, this just makes sense, as the ability to dodge, weave and defer is pretty much removed, as is the logic that it will be repaid in a low-risk manner. The world is going to be a different place when the US is perceived to be in a debt trap.

I suspect the problem will rear its ugly head well before this 30% number is hit, as markets start discounting the trajectory by hiking interest rates because of poor credit quality and/or inflation (or more accurately stranguflation). Naturally that question should be asked in terms of the recent and sudden uptick in Treasury note and bond rates that appeared strongly correlated to the latest round of tax “stimulus” and handouts, and the “unexpected” reaction to QE2.  The latter is nothing more than a brazen, dangerous gamble to monetize the debt. Sure the BS crowd is claiming economic growth is the causa proxima, but that feels like utter nonsense. Could it be that the markets at long last are anticipating a very bad result from QE2 and even more Gumnut largess?


Image: The Wall Street Examiner

During calender year 2010, the Gumnut will collect $2.05 trillion in taxes. With the tax cuts and extensions likely coming, this variable may well track lower.  Sometime shortly after the New Year, debt outstanding will hit $14 trillion (can track here)  heading higher at a clip of about $100 billion  per month. Interest paid on national debt for the FY 2010, which ended in September, was $414 billion or about 20% of tax revenues. That interest was against debt that was averaging about $13 trillion.

In addition, the interest cost to the Treasury as of November was 3%.  $1.8 trillion in Treasuries matures in 2011. The big majority is in T-Bills, where the average interest cost is a mere 0.20%.  That short-term debt maturing variable will move higher as more Treasury bills are sold at each successive auction. We can see from the chart above that those easy, ultra-low interest pickings have been reversed some.  Both the interest cost and interest paid can be tracked at the Treasury site.

Taking those variables into account, it is apparent that a trajectory toward 30% looks very likely.  Each step along the way will add to the stress on credit quality and interest rate cost. The latter is the key variable because a move of only one percent in interest rate cost takes the debt service percent up quickly. For example, against a debt of $15 trillion, 4% cost of money equals $600 billion in interest expense. If tax revenues are still running about $2 trillion, then you have your 30% debt trap thresholds in spades.

ECB urges bigger rescue fund as bond investors punish Spain
by Telegraph

The European Central Bank urged Europe to increase the size and scope of its €750bn financial rescue fund ahead of a crucial leaders' summit this week as bond investors demanded higher interest rates to hold Spanish debt. "We are calling for maximum flexibility, and I would say maximum capacity, quantitatively and qualitatively" for the European Financial Stability Facility, said Jean-Claude Trichet, the president of the central bank, in Frankfurt.

His comment came as a Spain raised €2.5bn via an issue of 12-month and 18-month bonds but despite strong demand had to pay higher interest rates due to uncertainty over its debts. Spain sold nearly €2bn in 12-month bills paying an average interest rate of 3.4pc, up from 2.4pc in the last such auction in November. For some €500m in 18-month bills it paid a 3.7pc interest rate, up from 2.7pc last month.

Borrowing costs in weaker eurozone countries including Ireland and Portugal have been rising since the Greek debt crisis in May and on Tuesday yields on 10-year bonds in these countries continued to rise. Last week the ECB bought the most sovereign debt since June as it attempt to calm market fears but there are doubts about how far it can go with this tactic.

Markets are looking for a more united approach to Europe's debt crisis but have been put off by division among nations over how to move forward. On Thursday and Friday, EU leaders are expected to approve a permanent eurozone crisis fund that Economics Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said will provide a "systemic" response to the eurozone debt and deficit crisis.

The ECB said in a statement: "We are not completely satisfied with the proposals put forward by the (EU) Commission and the European Council Task Force that should aim at strengthening the system of economic governance in Europe." Governments have stopped short of more automatic penalties that the ECB had demanded, Mr Trichet said, adding: "These proposals in our view do not yet represent the quantum leap in economic governance that is needed to be fully commensurate with the monetary union we have created."

He wants sanctions to be applied in a "quasi-automatic" way and include fines and "possible limitations of voting rights for member states in persistence violation". "Effective monitoring required adherence by members to the policy framework, it requires peer pressure and consequences to deal with deviant behaviour, and it requires reliable statistics," the ECB statement said.

Greece, for example, joined the eurozone with bogus figures, and growth data since 2004 are still not considered final by the EU's Eurostat statistics service. Meanwhile, the ECB president reiterated its opposition to a common eurozone bond as proposed by Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker - a proposal that has been rejected by Germany. The euro rose to $1.3475, benefiting from a falling dollar ahead of a Federal Reserve rate decision later after Moody's warning that US tax-break proposals could damage the American economy.

The EU's New Bailout Plan Will Exacerbate Political Crises
by Bill Black - Benzinga

The struggle within the EU and the European Central Bank (ECB) over the nature of European project continues. The EU continues to be dominated by the French/German tandem. The EU, once the great hope of the periphery – with Ireland as its brightest star – is now poses a triple threat to the periphery. The Euro removes the ability to devalue a national currency. The European stability pact (which Germany and France see as essential to maintain the value of the Euro) sharply limits the use of fiscal policies to respond to a severe recession.

The ECB's sole mandate is to restrict inflation – regardless of its impact on unemployment – so monetary policy may also be pro-cyclical in a recession. Economists warned, before the Euro was adopted, that it would impair the ability of nations to respond to a serious recession and that this impairment could eventually undermine the value of the Euro. A group of economists gathered in Kilkenny, Ireland at an event called the Kilkenomics Festival to discuss how those fears had been realized as a result of the ongoing Irish banking crisis.

The global competition in laxity for national currencies has compounded the EU's inherent triple threat. The EU is “losing” this competition. China's aggressive under-valuation of its currency has triggered an international competition to weaken national currencies. The Japanese have recently announced (and demonstrated) their intent to drive down the Yen's value. The U.S. has taken repeated actions to lower the dollar's value. The EU has allowed the Euro to appreciate against many currencies.

Germany's high tech exports can survive a strong Euro, but Greece, Spain, and Portugal cannot export successfully under a strong Euro and their already severe economic crises can become much worse. The Irish will have serious problems, and their export problems would have been crippling if they were not a corporate income tax haven. Italy's, particularly southern Italy's, ability to export successfully is dubious.

The periphery's financial crises also produce sovereign debt crises. In Ireland, it was the suicidal, crony-based decision of the Irish government to guarantee virtually all bank debts that turned a banking crisis driven by “control fraud” into a budgetary and sovereign debt crisis. The EU's response to the initial sovereign debt crisis in Greece was to create a bailout fund that appeared to be so large that it constituted a “shock and awe” strategy. The bailout fund was supposed to intimidate currency speculators and cause them to turn their FX attacks on non-EU targets.

Currency speculators, however, saw that the frauds at several major Irish banks had caused the mother of all bubbles and losses that would blow up the Irish debt to unsustainable levels. They also saw that the PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain) faced severe, increasing unemployment and long run budgetary problems due to the self-defeating nature of trying to adopt austerity in the face of lingering recessions. Currency speculators also recognized that Spain had gimmicked the accounting rules and adopted regulatory forbearance regimes that hid massive bank losses.

The Irish crisis exposed the ECB's stress tests as obvious shams (the worst Irish banks passed the stress tests). The ECB's effort to emulate the Fed's strategy of using sham stress tests to reassure creditors backfired and further reduced the ECB's credibility. The recent release of information by the Fed on loans (backed by junk collateral) to major European banks underscored the fact that the ECB was unable or unwilling to play the “lender of last resort” role even to stave off a potential second Great Depression.

If a recent BBC story (“EU to target private lenders in future bail-outs”) proves accurate, the EU is about to invite renewed, increased attacks on private and governmental bonds issued by the periphery. Chancellor Merkel has been shaken to the core by the willingness of German banks to fund control frauds and hyper-inflate financial bubbles. She has insisted on a remarkable strategy to try to make “private market discipline” a reality instead of the oxymoron it has been for several decades. The idea is to make creditors (banks) take substantial losses when they lend to banks and governments that are in financial crisis. The BBC article states that the EU will adopt Merkel's strategy.

Creditors, of course, will respond to the new EU strategy by raising the interest rates they charge borrowers. The risk premium they demand will be substantially greater for the PIGS. This will exacerbate the PIGS' budgetary crises and harm their economic growth. If interest rates on one nation's sovereign debt increase sharply and a bailout become likely – and a bailout means that the creditors get stiffed under the new EU plan – then credit markets for that nation are likely to shut down and contagion to its sister PIGS is highly likely.

The new EU plan will also exacerbate political crises. Ireland's government was insane enough to guarantee all bank debts – even subordinated debt owed by its massively insolvent banks. That government is discredited and falling. The new EU plan does not apply to Ireland's creditors. Ireland, unless it defaults, will have to pay the creditors (most of whom are foreign) in full. Only Ireland will have to do this. The new EU plan would require approval of the EU member states. Any Irish government that approves the new EU plan risks extinction at the polls.

Fiscal, debt, and unemployment crises often happen simultaneously. The trifecta is likely to cause governments to fall. The Latin American reaction to the surge in income inequality produced by “The Washington Consensus” has not been uniform, but it has helped produce the election of over a half-dozen sharply left-of-center regimes. To date, the EU economic crises have tended to move ruling parties' policies to the right, into IMF-style austerity programs that mirror The Washington Consensus. Chavez, of course, had the advantage of controlling a major oil producing nation during a strong increase in oil prices. If a Chavez-analog comes to power in one of the PIGS he will not have that advantage.

Ireland blocks Allied Irish Banks from paying €40m bonuses
by Rowena Mason - Telegraph

The Irish government has blocked Allied Irish Banks from spending €40m on bonuses, saying it would withhold state aid if the pay-outs went ahead. The bank had argued that it was legally required to pay bonuses to bankers for work done during 2008 - in the lead-up to the banking crisis.

In November, it lost a case brought by a former banker, John Foy, who had sought a bonus of €160,000 based on his 2008 performance. However, Allied reconsidered its position following a letter from the Irish finance minister Brian Lenihan. Mr Lenihan warned that state aid was "conditional on the non-payment of bonuses awarded, no matter when they may have been earned". The finance minister last week said that he is pushing for a 90pc tax on future bank staff bonuses.

"The bank very much appreciates the support it has received to date from the state and the Irish taxpayers and acknowledges that it will continue to rely on this support for some time to come," Allied said on Monday. "Accordingly, the board has decided not to pay the bonuses." Allied will be majority owned by the Irish taxpayer once the latest round of support is complete. It will also be the recipient of some of the Irish government’s €85bn aid package from Europe and the International Monetary Fund. Allied lost €1.7bn in the first half of 2010.

S&P Lowers Outlook On Belgium To Negative
by Art Patnaude - Dow Jones Newswires

Standard and Poor's Corp. lowered its ratings outlook on Belgium to negative from stable Tuesday, saying if the country fails to form a government within six months it could possibly face a one-notch downgrade. The ratings agency also affirmed the country's AA+ rating, the second-highest level, on a better-than-expected 2010 government budget outcome. However, the prolonged political uncertainty in the country poses a risk to its credit standing, "especially given the difficult market conditions many euro-zone governments are facing," it said.

The move is the first change S&P has made to Belgium's rating outlook since July 1992, when it first applied a stable outlook to the sovereign. The AA+ has been constant since first applied in Oct. 1988. The new outlook, along with the rating, puts Belgium on par with New Zealand in terms of S&P's ratings universe. "We view Belgium's political uncertainty as primarily evidenced by the prolonged delay in forming a federal government after the June 2010 general election, as well as the prolonged inability to form a key policy consensus across Belgium's linguistic divide," said Marko Mrsnik, credit analyst at S&P.

Both the euro and Belgian bonds hardly reacted to the announcement. Given the stresses in Europe due to the ongoing sovereign debt crisis, the current caretaker government may not be able to deal with a large shock to its public finances, which are currently at a "high level" of 94.6% of gross domestic product, the report said. S&P noted that aside from the governmental problems, the country's institutions are both capable and strong, supporting the current rating.

Still, "should a government be formed but is, in our opinion, ineffective in its fiscal stance or devolution, we are likely to consider rating action within two years," the report said. While any ratings upgrade is unlikely, the outlook could be moved back to stable if Belgium makes progress on its debt levels or areas important for social unity, S&P said.

Portugal Prepares New Economic Measures
by Raphael Minder - New York Times

Prime Minister José Sócrates of Portugal said he intends to announce new measures soon to help strengthen the Portuguese economy, amid persistent concerns about whether the country, hobbled by an austerity budget, can meet its economic and deficit-cutting targets. Mr. Sócrates, a Socialist who heads a minority government, said by telephone late Monday that "these measures will be to support growth and competitiveness."

Investors shifted out of European bonds again Tuesday after the ratings agency Standard & Poor’s warned that it could cut the outlook on Belgium’s credit rating and the Spanish government was forced to pay a higher rate to investors buying its bills. Mr. Sócrates did not give details of his plan, but said he was likely to make an announcement as early as this week, and that areas where improvements could be made included labor market rules, reducing bureaucratic regulations and helping to promote exports.

Mr. Sócrates also said he took encouragement from a study published this month by the International Monetary Fund that suggested Portugal was among the Western countries that had done the most to improve public finances by 2020. The fund’s report on what it called "fiscal exit strategies" also estimated that, among developed economies, Portugal would have the slowest growth rate in social expenditure after Japan, as a percentage of gross domestic product between now and 2030.

"I am very glad that the I.M.F. made this study that confirms that we are on the right track toward fiscal consolidation and I hope that these objective figures can increase confidence in the market," Mr. Sócrates said. Still, Portugal’s borrowing costs have been kept close to record highs since last month, when Ireland had to request rescue funding because of rising rates and the collapse of its banking sector.

After Greece and Ireland, Portugal is seen as one of the weakest euro economies, crippled by low competitiveness and a large budget deficit. To ease market concerns, Mr. Sócrates recently pushed through the Portuguese Parliament a second austerity package designed to create additional savings next year of €5.1 billion, or about $6.85 billion, with a mix of public sector wage cuts, tax increases and the freezing of pension rates.

As a result, Mr. Sócrates said that Portugal would meet its target of cutting its budget deficit this year to 7.3 percent of gross domestic product, from 9.3 percent last year. "And more important," he said, "we will achieve the objective of 4.6 percent in 2011, which will be one of the lowest public deficits in Europe."

In a research note published after the latest austerity package, economists at Commerzbank cast doubt on whether Portugal would meet its deficit target this year, despite a one-off transfer of Portugal Telecom’s pension fund to the state treasury, which is expected to reduce the deficit by about 1.5 percentage points in terms of gross domestic product. "As things stand at the moment, this would not be quite enough," Commerzbank said. "The Portuguese government is still not able to give any evidence of real consolidation progress."

Portugal’s finance minister, Fernando Teixeira dos Santos, was travelling Tuesday back to Lisbon from Beijing, a government spokeswoman said. He had been in China to try to persuade the authorities there to buy Portuguese government bonds. Last week, he undertook a similar mission to Brazil. In another signal of financial troubles in the region, S&P cut the outlook on Belgium’s AA+ credit rating, citing political uncertainty in the country combined with difficult market conditions.

And the Spanish government on Monday raised some €2.5 billion, or $3.3 billion, in a sale of bills in which it was forced to pay higher interest rates than during the last such auction, The Associated Press reported. The central bank said that the Treasury sold nearly €2 billion in 12-month bills paying an average interest rate of 3.4 percent, up from 2.4 percent in the last such auction in November. For some €500 million in 18-month bills it paid 3.7 percent, up from 2.7 percent last month.

Yields on benchmark Spanish and Belgian bonds pushed higher. Portugal is set to issue Wednesday as much as €500 million in treasury bills. Recent issues have been underpinned by purchases of government debt by the European Central Bank. The real test for Portugal, however, is likely to come in the first half of next year, when the country faces some tough refinancing hurdles.

Nobody wants to crash the Canadian debt party
by Nicolas Van Praet - National Post

This is how things look for Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney and other Canadian policymakers: The economy isn't showing any serious vigour, suggesting they should be stoking it by keeping interest rates low. But the 25 million or so of us with active credit profiles are borrowing money like it's Boom Time USA.

A lengthy period of low interest rates has prompted Canadians to rack up debt faster than their disposable income is growing. For the first time in 12 years, Canadian households now have a higher debt-to-income ratio than those in the United States. It hit a record 148% in the third quarter, new Statistics Canada data show.

"Cheap money is not a long-term growth strategy," Mr. Carney said in his loudest warning yet against the dangers of cheap credit. "Low rates today do not necessarily mean low rates tomorrow. Risk reversals when they happen can be fierce: The greater the complacency, the more brutal the reckoning." Trouble is, Mr. Carney has been warning about the situation for months without anyone doing anything about it. And it doesn't look like that's about to change anytime soon.

The Bank of Canada has some possible complicity in this: It has maintained low interest rates to propel the country out of the recession. That has spurred consumers to borrow more because it costs less to borrow. And banks, afraid to cede market share and profits, have been willing lenders. Consumer debt has ballooned, testing the limits of many Canadians' ability to repay what they owe. But everyone seems to think this is someone else's problem to fix.

Politicians from Quebec and elsewhere argue the banks should tighten lending practices. Bank chief executives from Toronto-Dominion and Bank of Montreal say the federal finance department should implement tighter mortgage rules, for example by lowering the maximum amortization period from the current 35 years. Surveys suggest consumers are aware of their current debt loads, but will continue borrowing as long as they think they can afford it.

"I'm scared. I'm really worried about this," said Queen's University finance professor Louis Gagnon, noting that every financial crisis has been preceded by a period of low interest rates. "We're dealing with a huge elastic band. It's been stretched and stretched and stretched. And there will be a point where it's going to break." Mr. Gagnon argues that there is a point beyond which banks should stop lending and a point beyond which Canadians should stop borrowing. He says individual responsibility now has to take centre stage because policy makers are dithering.

Not everyone agrees that Canadian consumers should be the ones scolded for their behaviour. Interest rates dropped to their lowest levels ever and Canadian consumers reacted as you would expect them to, argues Michael Gregory, senior economist at BMO Financial Group. While it's true that we're at the point now where individuals have to make sure they're living within their means, no one can argue they shouldn't have borrowed, he says.

"It's like saying you shouldn't get married because maybe the marriage will fail," Mr. Gregory. "Well to be honest what's wrong with buying a house? What's wrong with having a mortgage and making mortgage payments? Yes, it's true that if you lose your job, you've now got a financial commitment that you may not have had otherwise. But that's not necessarily a bad thing."

Where is this all leading? To more business and personal bankruptcies if Canadians are pushed past their payback limits. Lose your job and you lose your income. The lesson learned from the U.S. housing crisis was that when you get rising interest rates and declining asset values, namely real estate prices, it can cause a painful implosion of household finances.

"There is absolutely no question that Canadian household balance sheets eerily resemble their U.S. counterparts of roughly three to four years ago," said David Rosenberg, chief economist at Gluskin Sheff & Associates. "Who's fault is it? It's easy to point fingers at this politician or this central banker when we should probably all just grow up and behave like adults. It comes down to prudent decision making on the part of the lender and the borrower."

But are we at a panic level? Not yet, says federal finance minister Jim Flaherty. "I hope Canadians will be conscious of the level of credit that they have, that they will make sure they can manage it and they will assume interest rates will go up," he said Monday, adding the government is ready to alter mortgage rules if necessary.

TransUnion, one of the two credit rating agencies in Canada, says each Canadian consumer who is actively borrowing had average debt of $25,163 in the third quarter, excluding their mortgage. That's up 4.3% from last year.

Speaking in Toronto Monday, Mr. Carney used his starkest language to date to warn Canadians against over-extending themselves. His tone and comments led analysts to speculate he is setting the stage for an interest rate hike as soon as economic conditions warrant. He also signalled he is ready to take matters into his own hands and create monetary policy that goes beyond targeting specific inflation levels.

If the federal government gives him permission to do that, to raise rates to counter other systemic risks like personal debt, the Bank of Canada will have done what Bay Street banks and consumers themselves have so far been unwilling to do: Bring an end to the cheap credit party.

California Governor-Elect Jerry Brown: The Day Of Reckoning Is Upon Us
by Seema Mehta - Los Angeles Times

At a forum in L.A., the incoming governor says the fiscal mess is 'much worse' than he thought; he does not say whether his plan would contain only spending cuts or include new taxes.

Gov.-elect Jerry Brown said Tuesday that he wants to complete a budget agreement within two months of unveiling his budget, an accelerated timeline that would allow a late-spring special election for potential tax increases or other revenue generation. "I'm going to try to get the budget agreements done within about 60 days. I don't think we have a lot of time to waste," he said.

Brown made the remark during a budget forum in Los Angeles, but he demurred when asked by reporters whether his proposal would contain only spending cuts or would include new taxes. "We'll present a budget on Jan. 10. It will be a very tough budget, but it will be transparent," he said. "We'll lay it out as best I can. We've been living in fantasy land. It is much worse than I thought. I'm shocked." A spokesman later sought to play down the timeline, calling it "an ambitious goal." "I wouldn't get too caught up in the 60-day figure," said spokesman Evan Westrup. "The focus is on ensuring the work starts now."

Brown has refused to publicly discuss his budget plans, but he has met privately with lawmakers and interest groups. People involved in the meetings expect him to enact an austerity budget in the spring, then hold a special election in which voters can decide whether to raise taxes or other revenues in order to restore services. He pledged during the campaign not to increase taxes without voter approval.

The governor-elect's comments came during his second budget forum, which focused on education. Brown and other state officials painted a bleak picture, saying the deep fiscal problems mean there will be more reductions affecting California's classrooms. "This is really a huge challenge, unprecedented in my lifetime," Brown told hundreds of educators, union representatives and parents who had gathered at UCLA. "I can't promise you there won't be more cuts, because there will be."

California's K-12 system has been battered by billions of dollars of reductions in recent years, resulting in teacher layoffs, overcrowded classrooms and a shorter school year. Community colleges have eliminated courses and turned students away. Students in the University of California and Cal State systems have seen sharp fee increases. These conditions, the budget session made clear, are likely to get worse. The state faces a $28-billion budget gap for the next 18 months, and roughly $20-billion deficits annually through the 2015-16 fiscal year. Non-university education accounts for roughly 40% of state spending, so cuts tend to significantly affect the state schools.

The nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office has forecast that the K-12 school system and community colleges will receive $47.5 billion in the upcoming fiscal year, $9 billion less than four years earlier. In the past, state leaders relied on one-time gimmicks, some of which made the state's deficit worse, and one-time cash infusions to patch over flawed spending plans. Those days are over, Brown said.

"The day of reckoning is upon us and I'm determined to bite the bullet, get it done in whatever way the consensus of California can be built," he said. "Fair, transparent and enduring — that's my goal."

Educators responded by calling for an end to cuts, asking for greater discretion at the local level as to how dwindling dollars are spent, urging the state to seek more federal funding and requesting legislation that would allow them to increase local property taxes with 55% of the vote rather than the current requirement of two-thirds. "We can't take any more cuts. You really need to look elsewhere," said Bernie Rhinerson, the chief district relations officer at the San Diego Unified School District. "We are at the cliff."

State Treasurer Bill Lockyer grew visibly frustrated by some of the comments about increasing funding of programs, such as online education. "Anyone who thinks we get by that without everyone getting hit probably should live in Mendocino County," he said, referring to the region known for marijuana growing. "There are going to be cuts."

"So far, I've heard good ideas about how to spend more money. Great. It ain't there. It's time to make cuts, I believe deep cuts," Lockyer said. "I'd do the 25% across the board and just say those who wanted less government, you're going to get your wish. In other communities that are willing to put something on the ballot to make up that difference, they're going to have a higher service level."

Educators appeared shaken by Lockyer's remarks. "There is no more meat on this bone to carve, the only thing left is amputation," said David Sanchez, president of the California Teachers' Assn. "If we do what Mr. Grinch wants us to do, the possibility of shutting down schools is a reality. Is that really what we want to do?" Lockyer later clarified that he had not been making a policy recommendation, but rather analyzing what would happen unless voters sanction increased spending.

Both state officials and the audience appeared to favor pushing for increased taxes. "These statistics are stark, deeply disturbing numbers that cry out for a balanced solution," said Tom Torlakson, the incoming state superintendent of schools. "A cuts-only budget would be devastating to education."

But Brown noted that though a majority of voters don't want to see more cuts to schools, most also don't want to see taxes go up. "That is the dilemma," he said. Brown had previously said he would cut the budget of the governor's office by 20%, but he pledged to cut more on Tuesday. "Heck, just listening here, I would increase it to 25%, and more before I get finished," he said. Tuesday's session and one last week in Sacramento were the first in what Brown has said would be a series of meetings to broadcast the dire nature of the budget mess.

Middle Class Strife Left Out of Conversation
by Peter S. Goodman - Huffington Post.

Oh, to live in Washington, where the annoyances of external reality are so conveniently ignored and The Conversation can be changed like an un-liked song on the national iPod.
Was it not just a couple of weeks ago that The Conversation was all about the supposed five-alarm emergency of the federal budget deficit and the hellish consequences that surely awaited the continuation of profligate spending? Never mind. The political establishment decided to tack another $900 billion on the federal tab to stave off an apparently more dire crisis: the prospect that tax cuts lavished on people wealthy enough to worry about mooring charges might soon expire.

Now, the only talk that seems capable of sustaining the Conversation is whether tax cuts for the richest will be extended again two years forward, and how this will play for those determined to become President.

How can we generate quality jobs by the million and prevent more homeowners from sliding into foreclosure? How can we arrest the long-running breakdown in American middle class life? These are fragments of a narrative long since discarded as politically infertile. They no longer fit into the format of the Sunday talk shows, where the only real question is who won the week, because no one is even trying to win on these points. Not this week. Not any week. The unemployment rate remains snagged at nearly 10 percent and 6.3 million people have been officially out of work for six months and longer, but the Conversation has moved on.

If only the topic of discussion could be so easily be dispatched around the dining room tables of ordinary Americans (an institution increasingly dependent on food stamps). There, the conversation seems stuck on the puzzle of the age: How to get by with less. How to pretend that, despite all indications to the contrary, better days lie ahead, because that's how things are supposed to go in the movie version of this land of limitless opportunity.

That dream has become increasingly difficult to sustain in the face of a broad sagging of national fortunes, a point brought home with discomfiting clarity by a new study released this morning by the Rockefeller Foundation. The report, "Standing on Shaky Ground: Americans' Experiences With Economic Insecurity," lays out just how savagely most Americans have been battered by the Great Recession and the degree to which fundamental economic anxiety has insinuated itself into the national psyche. It reads like a catalog of needs deferred, hopes relinquished and sustenance denied as people have lost their peace of mind, along with their jobs and savings.

Between March 2008 and September 2009 -- a span that captures the worst of the recession -- more than nine in ten American households suffered either a "substantial decline in their wealth or earnings," or a significant drain on their funds due to an emergency, such as an expensive health crisis or the need to help a relative, according to the report, which draws on surveys of more than 2,000 people.

Far from an affliction reserved for the poor, the recession spread widespread pain across the income spectrum, even as the consequences proved sharpest for those at the bottom. Even in households with incomes ranging between $60,000 and $100,000 a year, among those who suffered the loss of wages or large unexpected medical bills, more than half reported having been "unable to meet at least one basic need." Put simply, they had lost their homes due to foreclosure or eviction, skipped meals, or dispensed with necessary medical care.

The report adds the imprimatur of academic authority to a reality that most ordinary people already know: Long before the headlines became consumed with economic crisis in 2008, times were already lean. Jobs were scarce and wages were stagnating, if not declining. People whose parents had been accustomed to expecting more as the years unfolded were contending with the likelihood of diminished aspirations as work became less rewarding and the costs of education housing and health care climbed.

Anxiety about job security jumped dramatically over the last two years for most Americans, but concerns about retirement savings, medical bills and housing changed little: They were already as common in 2007 as they were during the worst period of the recession, the study found.

And yet, despite the conspicuous evidence that large numbers of people are still ensnared by this recession, despite the abundance of signs that the last quarter-century has proven cruelly inadequate for people accustomed to living on what they can earn, The Conversation in Washington is surreally divorced from this reality. President Obama and his advisers insist they had to accept the extension of tax cuts for the wealthiest -- a primary source of the aggravated inequality that has afflicted the economy -- in order to get some relief. This was the cost of extending emergency unemployment benefits for people who have reached the limit. This was the cost of lowering payroll taxes in a bid to spur jobs.

But none of that addresses the long-term vibrancy of the economy. None of that amounts to a viable plan to help nurture new industries and provoke serious job growth. That will take money and time and political fight. It will require a sustained effort and a willingness to take on the enemies of change in Washington -- a bipartisan interest group that seems to hold the votes on everything. And there is no sign of that today, alas.

It is as if the mode of thinking on Wall Street -- where prosperity is measured in incremental movements in share prices -- has so saturated the Congress and the Obama administration that an unemployment epidemic and a foreclosure crisis is, as they say, already priced into the market. It has been accepted as the new baseline of the political discussion, a facet of life so taken for granted that it is hardly even worth discussing.

If the findings in the paper released this day were new, they would surely inspire immediate action. If terrorists were planning a plot that could, in one cataclysm, visit such damage on American households as has been collectively absorbed in recent years, whole arms of the government would now be in full crisis mode. Instead, the chattering class goes on, picking over the electoral implications of one tax scheme or another. The Conversation is a small-minded, dispiriting drone.

"There's planet earth and there's planet Washington," says Yale University political scientist Jacob S. Hacker, the study's lead author. "The telescopes on planet Washington seem not powerful enough to reach to planet earth."

Less Than a Full-Service City
by Matthew Dolan - Wall Street Journal

More than 20% of Detroit's 139 square miles could go without key municipal services under a new plan being developed for the city, with as few as seven neighborhoods seen as meriting the city's full resources. Those details, outlined by Detroit planning officials this week, offer the clearest picture yet of how Mayor Dave Bing intends to execute what has become his signature program: reconfiguring Detroit to reflect its declining population and fiscal health. Yet the blueprint still leaves large legal and financial questions unresolved.

Until now, the mayor and his staff have spoken mostly in generalities about the problem, stressing the need for community input and pledging to a skeptical public that no resident would be forced to move. But the approach discussed by city officials could have that effect. Mr. Bing's staff wants to concentrate Detroit's remaining population—expected to be less than 900,000 after this year's Census count—and limited local, state and federal dollars in the most viable swaths of the city, while other sectors could go without such services as garbage pickup, police patrols, road repair and street lights.

Karla Henderson, a city planning official leading the mayor's campaign, said in an interview Thursday that her staff had deemed just seven to nine sections of Detroit worthy of receiving the city's full resources. She declined to identify the areas, but said the final plan could include a greater number. Ms. Henderson said her team amassed hundreds of data—on household income, population density, employment, existing city services, philanthropic investments and housing stock —in its effort to identify the neighborhoods with the brightest outlook—those that could be stabilized with additional city, state and federal resources.

"What we have found is that even some of our stronger neighborhoods are at a tipping point with vacancy," Ms. Henderson said. "Vacancy adds to blight and blight is a disease that takes over the whole neighborhood. So the sooner we can get those homes occupied, the better for the city." Officials bristle when their efforts are described as downsizing, saying their aim is to repurpose portions of the city, not redraw its borders. "We will not be shrinking the city," Ms. Henderson said. "We are 139 [square] miles and we'll stay that way."

Lynn Garrett, president of the North Rosedale Park Civic Association, applauded the mayor's effort to reimagine how the city will function, especially as her own northwest Detroit area fights encroaching blight. But the wife of a former city fire-commissioner said many details remained unknown. "I haven't really quite got my arms around that," she said of proposals to encourage people to move to more viable neighborhoods and convert vacant land to other uses, including farming. "It's an urban city. I do understand that the population is decreasing, but what would the advantages be?"

The city plans to present its findings publicly in meetings this winter and spring, culminating in June with at least three options for supporting targeted areas and pulling services from thinly populated neighborhoods. The city estimates it has about 60,000 parcels of surplus land. The final plan, though, may need local and state approval, as well as an influx of funds to rehabilitate vacant homes in neighborhoods deemed worthy of saving and to move residents wishing to leave areas with reduced services.

Already, city officials say, Detroit is failing to properly serve many neighborhoods, making the effort to refocus services all the more urgent. "If we have an honest conversation, we know there are many areas of the city where we are not providing adequate service at this time," Ms. Henderson said.

Speculators Are Eager to Bet on Madoff Claims
by Peter Lattman and Diana B. Henriques - New York Times

The lawsuits filed by the trustee seeking money for Bernard L. Madoff’s fraud victims may be a blow for the defendants — but they are catnip for an obscure breed of Wall Street traders speculating on the outcome of the enormous Madoff bankruptcy case.

In recent months, hedge funds and other investment firms have been quietly contacting Madoff victims whose loss claims have been approved by the trustee, Irving H. Picard. These funds — specialists in beaten-down assets known as distressed securities — are offering to buy those claims immediately for cash, but at a sharp discount from their face value. With the latest round of big-ticket lawsuits, however, that quiet market has started to sizzle.

"Virtually every sophisticated distressed investor is looking at the Madoff situation," said Thomas T. Janover, a lawyer at Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel who has represented clients who are considering buying claims. "The uncertainty of the payout from the bankruptcy process creates an opportunity and potentially big returns."

The chances that the trustee will be able to collect more than the $2 billion he has gathered to date have increased in recent days with the filing of lawsuits against deep-pocketed banks like JPMorgan Chase, UBS and HSBC, among others. But bankruptcy lawyers expect those legal fights will take years to resolve, with no guarantee of that any of the billions being sought will be recovered.

Bankruptcy claims have traded on Wall Street for generations, and active markets have developed around other financial calamities like Enron and Lehman Brothers. The explosion in hedge funds and their pursuit of unusual investment strategies has expanded that traditional market in recent years. For small investors who were caught in the Madoff fraud and cannot afford to wait years for a recovery, the speculative buyers offer them cash now. Even larger investors may decide that it is prudent to take less cash upfront rather than hope for a bigger payoff in the future.

The distressed investors, however, are betting that the bankruptcy claims will be settled for more than what they appear to be worth now. And they are hoping that Madoff investors will allow them to take that bet. One Madoff investor, who declined to be identified to protect his privacy, reported receiving letters from no fewer than six companies in the last two months. He provided copies of those letters, which offered to pay 20 to 34.5 cents for every dollar in claims. The firms making those bids included Contrarian Capital Management, a large Greenwich, Conn., hedge fund; Fulcrum Credit Partners of Austin, Tex.; and the Hain Capital Group of Rutherford, N.J.

Another Madoff investor, Burt Ross of Englewood, N.J., said that 30 cents on the dollar was the highest offer he had received in recent months. "People need to understand that people who are offering 30 cents are savvy professionals who fully expect to get 50 to 60 cents when the claims are finally paid," Mr. Ross said. "They’re not offering 30 cents because they expect to get 35." And it is not just individual Madoff investors who are willing to cut deals with the speculators.

A large hedge fund recently paid about 30 cents on the dollar to buy a claim of roughly $50 million from a family that had invested with Mr. Madoff, according to a person with knowledge of the trade who was not authorized to speak about it. Several prominent hedge funds have become involved in the Madoff claims trading process, including the Fortress Investment Group, Perry Capital, Silver Point Capital, the Baupost Group and Farallon Capital Management. It is unclear whether any of these funds have bought claims, but all are actively exploring the market.

Other prominent distressed investors have decided not to participate in the market for Madoff claims, no matter how compelling the potential returns. David M. Barse, president and chief executive of Third Avenue Management, an active investor in distressed bankruptcy claims, said in recent months his analysts had advanced the idea of buying Madoff claims.

When the investment idea was discussed in October, claims were trading at about 25 cents on the dollar, and an analysis showed potential recoveries in the range of 40 to 80 cents. But after discussing the idea with his senior management, Mr. Barse said he had decided that even though the trade sounded promising, Third Avenue would not participate. "The fraud is just so despicable that we felt that, from a moral perspective, it just didn’t make sense for us," Mr. Barse said. "There are plenty of other ways to make money in this business."

JPMorgan, which actively trades bankruptcy claims, has also shied away from being involved. The bank, which served as Mr. Madoff’s primary banker for many years, was among the several large global banks sued by the trustee. JPMorgan has denied the trustee’s claims that it ignored clear signs that Mr. Madoff had been operating a fraud.

Mr. Picard, the trustee, has estimated that the total cash losses in the fraud are roughly $20 billion. So far, he has collected about $2 billion in cash and approved claims totaling more than $5.9 billion, representing cash losses by investors who took less out of their Madoff accounts than they put in. Many of those investors have already received up to $500,000 from the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, an industry-financed compensation fund.

None of the $2 billion in cash has been distributed to eligible investors yet. Mr. Picard has said that he expected several large settlements to be announced soon, which would allow him to make a partial distribution to investors early next year. Some investors say they are not inclined to trade their claims because they believe they will recover more through the court process.

Mr. Ross, one investor, says he has not been tempted to sell his approved claim because he noticed that Mr. Picard has already been successful in settling several cases for substantial amounts of money. Two were settled just last week, for a total of more than $1 billion, he added. "Every time I read that there’s been a settlement, there is more hope," he said. "And hope is a good thing to have — we need it."

Silver: Debunking The Myths
by Andrea Hotter - Wall Street Journal

Silver is back in the spotlight, roiled once more by allegations of impropriety by financial institutions as a regulatory investigation in the U.S. continues to dig deep. But whatever the eventual findings of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, what’s clear is that the conspiracy theorists and bank-haters are having a field day.

The silver market has long been plagued with scandals, most notably during the 1970s and 1980s, when Bunker and Herbert Hunt accumulated millions of troy ounces of the metal and whisked a large portion of it away on planes to vaults in Switzerland for safe keeping. Their actions caused a market shortage and saw prices rise from just $1.50/oz to a massive $50/oz over the course of six years, eventually forcing U.S. exchange Comex to suspend trading in new contracts.

If you listen to reports and videos popping up on a number of websites these days, the same thing is happening again. Only this time, silver could reach $500/oz from $29/oz currently, some of the reports suggest, because of the trading activities of a handful of banks that have been craftily cornering the market.

One of the videos portrays Jamie Dimon, the chief executive and chairman of J.P. Morgan, as Nazi leader Adolf Hitler hankering down in an underground bunker with his troops, railing against the rising price of silver as the market turns against the firm. The site has been set up by film-maker and former trader Max Keiser, who says J.P. Morgan’s activities in silver make it the “biggest financial terrorist on Wall Street,” and is as part of his ‘Crash J.P. Morgan, Buy Silver’ campaign that has the goal of bankrupting the bank.

Keiser is not without his own critics–nicknamed “Mad Max,” he has called for bankers to be “decapitated” for receiving bonuses–but his focus on J.P. Morgan is stepping up the heat on an institution that is generally widely respected for its commodity trading activities.

The broader financial media is now joining in, with the latest report Monday by U.K. newspaper The Financial Times.

Singling out U.S. bank J.P. Morgan, the story cited an unnamed source as saying the institution had cut a short silver futures position on Comex in an attempt to deflect criticism of its dealings in the precious metal. The report also said that a group of small precious metals investors has alleged that large silver futures positions held by several banks, including J.P. Morgan, are keeping prices low. It didn’t name the other banks, nor provide information of price levels at which trades were concluded.

J.P. Morgan declined to confirm whether it has significantly reduced its shorts in the silver market, noting that it doesn’t comment on its trading position–and who would?

But the bank went as far as to say:

“It is absolutely incorrect to say or imply that the New York Mercantile Exchange, Commodity Futures Trading Commission or any other exchange or regulator has instructed or asked us to reduce our position.”

If blaming the big bad banker has become all too easy in a post-Lehman Brothers world, backing up accusations appears to be a whole lot harder. The data used in the Financial Times was the U.S. Bank Participation Report, which shows that U.S. banks held 19.1% of the total number of outstanding short futures contracts at the start of December.

Big deal.

According to the CFTC’s bank participant report, the figure has remained steady in recent months, with U.S. banks holding 19.4% in November and 19.5% in October. While the figure is down from 30.2% in January, the overall short futures positions held by U.S. banks by April was already as low as 25.8%. If a bank has been stealthily cutting its short silver futures position, it didn’t do it recently. And if not U.S. banks, which players hold the remaining 80%-plus?

The figure for U.S. banks holding outstanding short futures in other commodity products is actually higher, with palladium at 21% and gold at 22.5%. A handful of currencies and energy products are not far off. But that’s still hardly a dominant position or cartel.

This isn’t the first time silver has attracted the attention of the regulator: there have been investigations in the past, all of which concluded the market was orderly. Most recently, in September 2008 the CFTC confirmed that its division of enforcement had been investigating complaints of misconduct in the silver market. It didn’t name any of the participants under investigation and hasn’t commented since.

The situation isn’t likely to go away in a hurry. The price of silver isn’t helping–it’s up at 30-year highs, a gain of 49% in the last three months alone. This is a greater rise over the same period than its sister metal gold, which is up 13%, as well as the London Metal Exchange’s flagship three-month copper contract, which is up 21%. Silver has also risen some 160% since the start of 2009, after the global financial crisis hit investor sentiment and subsequently the world’s metal markets.

So if U.S. banks have been attempting to keep silver prices lower, then it clearly isn’t working.

There are other bank critics, such as former trader Andrew Maguire. He alleged market manipulation of silver and gold by J.P. Morgan and HSBC earlier this year, after which unconfirmed reports of CFTC and Department of Justice investigations abounded. J.P. Morgan batted back, saying there was no criminal or civil investigation into its silver trading activities.

But what the reports lack in sourcing and detail, they make up for in drama, and only add to the negativity surrounding commodities. The watchful eye of the regulator is now firmly fixed on the asset class at a time of booming investor interest and improving fundamental demand, with 2011 likely to bring changes to the sector that may not be entirely welcome.

As the inventor of the most widely used market rigging technology today; the Keiser Virtual Specialist Technology, I am not fooled by the techniques being used by JPM
by Max Keiser

Breaking up the silver market fraud – led primarily by JPM – will be my second Wall St. take down in six months. Remember that after $20 million spent creating box office futures contracts – and getting VERY CLOSE with Gary Gensler (former Goldman crook) at the CFTC – all it took was to whisper a few obvious points of how box office futures would crash Hollywood and the MPAA – within two weeks – got Congress to Outlaw Cantor Exchagne (too bad the rest of America doesn’t have advocates working in their interest like Hollywood’s copyright cartel does).

This was a bitter pill for me to swallow because I hate the copyright cartel and HSX/Cantor exchange would have killed them, but I decided it was in the interests of the greater good to put Cantor X out of business. Now they’re gone. Similarly, JPM has violated the public trust in an outrageous scheme to keep the price of silver down and to profit on their highly leveraged short position. The wheels are coming off JPM just like we saw with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Let me point out to those who point to the futures market and say that ‘for every seller there is a buyer’ and therefore, there is no net short position to exploit. What is being overlooked is that the majority of longs and shorts are BOTH coming from JPM. Just as GS uses HFT to steer prices with ‘quote stuffing’ JPM violates the position limits laws and ‘steers’ prices by overwhelming the exchange with enough volume to crowd out any legitimate price discovery – thus leaving only manipulated prices behind.

Obviously, as the inventor of the most widely used market rigging technology today, the Keiser, Virtual Specialist Technology (designed originally to overcome fraud in the way the NYSE and other exhanges operate, NOT assist accounting control fraud) I am not fooled by the techniques being used by JPM. Additionally, most of the silver market rigging takes place in the OTC derivatives market anyway, so most of the comments written (all now backing away from their hardened, inaccurate positions) are not even in the ball park when coming to grips with this massive fraud.


Ruben said...

Hey Nassim,

Just wanted to mention November 2 and 29, 2009 and January 20 and February 17, 2010 are all over 200 comments.

Rumor said...

Thanks for taking the time to address Lira's argument, I&S. Much appreciated.

p01 said...




ghpacific said...

Stoneleigh says "I fully expect the dollar to surge in relation to other currencies when this happens, on a knee-jerk flight to safety into the reserve currency as the least-worst option." Erskine Bowles said we're the best looking horse in the glue factory, but the dollar is actively being abandoned by China, Russia and Brazil for their trade with each other. How long can the dollar stay the reserve currency of the world? And then what happens to holders of fiat paper? Pity the poor drug cartels with their wads of defunct $100 dollar bills.

logout said...


It took me a lot less than five minutes to get stuck here and that's super fast for a slow reader.

"By the way: it really is this simple: as long as the US sells its debt on the international markets, hyperinflation is entirely impossible."

I quite agree, but that debt seems to be getting ifier by the day and looking rather dog eared. so would you venture a word on how long you expect US debt to be sold. Does that, I think, 10 years or so estimate of a couple of years ago still hold. or is it shrinking? How much of it will be held longer than it takes to toss away any other hot potato?

While the tone of the above might seem argumentative it essentially is not. I think your point expresses what is the nub of the issue that we all dance about.

I will read Stoneleigh's piece where maybe all will then become clear but, with the season, time is compromised and I will likely not be able to take fulsome pleasure in it until tonight.

Ash said...

The crux of GL's argument is really that a temporary spike in commodity prices, such as oil, will be a triggering event that causes treasury dumping to buy commodities, which cascades on itself causing further commodity price increases and by the time these prices singicantly impact the consumers, the hyperinflationary process will be fully underway and irreversible.

This is how he sidesteps the entire issue of a consistently declining credit money supply, despite the best efforts of the Fed and UST. He never really explains why the en masse treasury dumping will occur from a temporary spike or how it will be able to overcome the massive forces of debt deflation. Without those series of convenient assumptions, his entire argument falls apart.

Dan said...

It's either Deflation, or the end of the dollar. In a fiat currency system (of floating rates), hyperinflation, as I&S point out, is frankly impossible. AND, with half a QUADRILLION dollars in outstanding, hidden, shadowy, off-book, unserviceable obligations out there just waiting to go splat, massive contraction and deflation is inevitable. (Unless the entire fiat currency regime collapses first, but NOT hyperinflationarily)

Ilargi said...

"logout said...

I will read Stoneleigh's piece where maybe all will then become clear"

Well, thee's a thought, read first, write after. I could live with that.


Sailor man said...

Quite frankly the overall economical situation is quite scary. I heard recently to a very professional presentation from my bank which was very informative but at the same time not making the slightest prediction.

Deflation and hyperinflation are timewise very close.

It will take me a while to digest Stoneleigh's latest article here.

I. M. Nobody said...

Lira thoroughly discredited his "theory" when he tossed in that bit about hyperinflation as a desirable purgative, after which everything would be just peachy. Stoneleigh did well to once again remind that the future will not resemble the present no matter what kind of flation might happen. Even if, somehow, there were to be no flation.

As Kunstler never ceases to remind, the current world order and living arrangements are toast. It will continue to coast toward its destiny for awhile longer. Maybe as much as ten years. After watching the videos that Paul linked, it is apparent that it could be brought down much sooner. Eventually, such riots will result in hundreds, perhaps thousands, lying dead in the streets. Hard to imagine the current system surviving that.

After watching the riot videos, scenes from Apocalypse Now kept flashing in front of me. The world has been creeping toward stone cold insanity for a very long time. Are we about to sprint for that finish line?

Lira should send his ideas to Hollywood. This latest one struck me as having box office potential. That is if all the movie theaters haven't been fire bombed by then.

scandia said...

@Nassim, so glad I checked the previous posting to get your head's up that London Banker is back! I've missed him, his informed, erudite, somehow calming analysis.

@Stoneleigh, I, too, appreciate your response to Lira, especially offered at this busy time of the year. I get so upset with the hyperinflationists as I have to sit down and review in my own mind, over and over again, what I think. I always end up back at deflation.

RE Assange. An appeal from Sweden keeps Assange in jail. I don't understand how another nation can overturn the decision of the UK courts? Can anyone explain this to me? Man oh man but it burns my ... that the Wall St. mafia, the war criminals like Blair, Bush and Cheney walk free, no ankle bracelets for them, YET...

Kate said...

Sorry to add this in response to a particular blog post, but the link for the video of A Century of Challenges seems to be down for me at this time. Also, I was wondering whether there's any appropriate place to ask a few questions raised for me by that presentation. I've watched it a few times and each time it sinks in a bit more, but there are a few things I'd like to see explained in plain English for idiots (such as myself).

logout said...

Blogger Ilargi said...

" Well, thee's a thought, read first, write after. I could live with that."

Almost as much of a treat as getting a straight answer, around here one can die before that.

Nassim said...

Hi Ruben,

It is working on autopilot right now and it should be able to handle up to 400 comments - updates every 5 minutes. If it gets into 300 comments, I will upgrade it to a maximum of 600 comments and so on. I don't want it to hog (as if that is at all possible)

Frank A. said...


RE Assange. An appeal from Sweden keeps Assange in jail. I don't understand how another nation can overturn the decision of the UK courts? Can anyone explain this to me?

According to this article it is the UK, not the Swedes, that are keeping Assange in jail.

I suspect that the US DOJ is where the real pressure is coming from. Undoubtedly there are many conversations going on in DC as to whether they think they can get away with extraditing Assange to the US. It is surely a risky move, but one that the neo-cons dearly want to make.

Noel said...

Thanks for the GL smack down!

Do you think QE begins the functional equivalent of the 'isolation' you refer to in the opening piece? If the Fed pays too much for Treasury debt (to keep rates low) aren't we progressively losing contact with the real debt buyers? Are we in danger of not realizing we're in fact 'isolated'? How much longer can we convince the world that the tax base is sufficient to support the debt servicing payments? I'm all over the place now, sorry.

A Walk in the Woods said...

Lira is also incidentally a Pinochet apologist. Doesn't think the guy was so bad, in fact, he fervently believes he left Chile in much better shape, you know, after ten of thousands were imprisoned, torture and 'disappeared'.

He doesn't connect the dots on 'flations' for the same reason Americans don't connect the dots about how utterly screwed they are living in the hell of unsustainable suburbia: because of the tragedy of previous investment.

Lira is invested psychologically in the religious belief (Friedmanism) of Eternal Growth and 'human progress' a la lazy-fair crony capitalism. It was interrupted briefly in his country by those pesky lefties but nothing a little fascism couldn't cure, Excelsior!

Planet destroying gut-wrenching contractionary deflation is the anti-Christ to a limousine libertarian like Lira.

The thought of the entire global economic ponzi contracting like his nutsack in a jacuzzi full of ice water is unthinkable torture to him.

For him, it's hyper-inflation or death.

Stop, let me guess what he'll do when he realizes he's wrong.

Blame it on Allende.

Woody said...


Thanks for taking time to put Lira's views into a larger perspective. What we're facing is indeed unprecedented and impossible to predict based on simple comparisons to previous events.

ghp asks how long the dollar can remain the global reserve currency. Might that status end at the same time as a UST bond market dislocation, or are they independent events?

Also, do you see the bond market as driven by herd mentality as much as equity markets, or are these investors somehow more rational?

I. M. Nobody said...


I'm sure the world is well aware that our taxes do not cover our expenditures. In effect, they only cover part of the debt service now. It's not like anybody thinks it will ever be paid off. They're just hoping we can keep rolling it over.

There is only one thing we need to convince the world of, and they already know it. That we have enough thermonuclear devices and a sufficiently insane ruling class to make the whole thing moot. Yeah, it is just a mafioso protection racket. What's anybody gonna do about it? Call a cop? Please note: We are the cop. Ain't that a bitch?

Dan said...

@ all

my silly video take on deflation:

redcedar said...

Never in my long life have I used the word "magisterial" in conversation, but I will use it now. Just reading this is bracing.

Wyote said...

IMN, loved the "Yeah, it is just a mafioso protection racket. What's anybody gonna do about it? Call a cop? Please note: We are the cop. Ain't that a bitch? "

and want to contribute a link:
Maldicta for possible future use. There you will find links to the Profanisaurus, American Slanguages and many others. Self touted as the home of "International Web Sites Specializing in Insults, Curses, Slang, Swearwords, Blasphemies, Slurs, Obscenities and Vulgarities"

-Your friend, Vinny

I. M. Nobody said...

Thanks Vinny, I may find a use for that site someday. :)

scandia said...

@ Frank A...thanks for the Raw Story link. I didn't think it was possible for Sweden to change a granting of bail. The plot doth thicken.

acomfort said...

Better to give Sweden the credit for changing the bail than TPTB in the U.S.

logout said...

Geesh ilargi,

I lay me down to read the Stone demolish the Lira and first I make the mistake of reading from where i left off in your introduction and see this:

"In order to achieve hyperinflation, you first need economic and financial isolation. Ergo: if for instance Greece leaves the eurozone, it could go that road. The US, however, will be kept in check by the markets for quite a while to come. And at the right price (re: interest rate), the markets will be willing takers. Hyperinflation in the US is a long way away."

Well what do you make of Iceland; they are not part of the Eurozone and they are or would have seemed to be pretty damned isolated physically as well as economically and financially but they seem to have gone their own way, done a devaluation and are bouncing right back with investment pouring in, no hyperinflation as far as I know. I think for the near future we can see the US in a stagnant inflation, where it goes from there I do not know, but if you are a contrary indicator as you seem to be by your reflections on Greece, I would say for the US, it would be hyperinflation all the way down.

Now back to bed and still try to read The Stone with an open mind and see if she can change a view you have only solidified.

Nite, nite.

Fred said...

The analysis fails to take into account the collapse of the USD reserve currency status. This is going to happen sooner rather than later. Russia/China dont pay USD for oil. When Opec figures out they are losing purchasing power compared to gold or more stable currencies, that energy spike in real terms will wipe everyone out. Including dollar holders.

There are arguments for cash and commodities. Hedging makes sense. I dont believe your analysis has debunked Lira at all. Its all USD navel gazing.

scandia said...

@Dan...loved your video on deflation! Strange isn't it that this is a subject so hard to concentrate on. Cartoon characters do help focus on the message rather than the messenger. I'll be sending this around to a couple of friends.
You are some talented!

Dan said...

@ Fred

With respect, I disagree. It's not the dollar extolled, its the dollar as it relates to other currencies in a global fiat system. Even as the dollar gets trashed by FED policy and by some policy decisions of other lands, IN RELATION TO the global basket of fiat and irredeemable currencies, the dollar still holds great value.

Kate said...

Can anyone else who purchased access confirm or deny that the Century of Challenges streaming vid is down? Is it just a problem on my end? If not is anything being done to address the problem?

Stoneleigh said...


We have contacted the company that is handling the streaming file to let them know that there appears to be a problem. So far we have not had an answer. Ilargi is traveling today, now that our latest European tour is over, so he won't be able to check his email and chase the company until this evening. I will be traveling back to Canada tomorrow, so I'll be incommunicado as well. We'll try to sort out the problem as soon as possible.

Stoneleigh said...


The analysis fails to take into account the collapse of the USD reserve currency status. This is going to happen sooner rather than later.

I do not believe the USD will lose its reserve currency status soon. In fact, as I said, I think its value will increase on a flight to safety into the reserve currency. We are seeing exceptionally strong anti-dollar sentiment, which is the perfect psychological climate for a trend change.

bluebird said...

@Kate - The website for the Century of Challenges streaming video, is inaccessible for me too.

Stoneleigh said...


Pity the poor drug cartels with their wads of defunct $100 dollar bills.

I think they'll do well enough for the period of the dollar rally. In the much longer term (perhaps a few years out), the risk of currency reissue is likely to rise, which is why I say cash is a relatively short term bet to ride out a great deleveraging. At that point, dollars held outside the US could lose their value almost overnight, as their holders would not be able to switch into the new currency.

This is why I think it generally prudent to hold whatever passes for cash wherever you live, rather than add currency risk. There are certain exceptions though, and some places where the risk of currency reissue is probably a shorter term prospect. The eurozone periphery comes to mind in this regard.

Stoneleigh said...


Do you think QE begins the functional equivalent of the 'isolation' you refer to in the opening piece?

No, I think that's a long way off, although inevitable eventually. By isolation, I mean being cut off from international debt financing. IMO the end of the rally should see a flight to safety into the US. I think it will actually take a lot of upheaval to break the power of the bond market, and we haven't seen anything yet.

Stoneleigh said...

A Walk in the Woods,

Don't worry, you'll never hear a good word about Pinochet from me. The human rights abuses during his version of the Shock Doctrine were an abomination.

Tristram said...

One thing I don't get -- why is Max Keiser such a hero for driving up the price of silver? It's an important ingredient of many things people need, such as dental fillings. Commodity speculators are bad when they wear Gucci loafers. Why are they suddenly good when they wear tinfoil hats? Keeping down the price of silver perhaps the only good thing JPM has ever done.

zander said...

"The human rights abuses during his version of the Shock Doctrine were an abomination."

Yeah, Thatcher's pal.


logout said...

@ Stoneleigh,

"I fully expect the dollar to surge in relation to other currencies when this happens, on a knee-jerk flight to safety into the reserve currency as the least-worst option."

Would you make that a least-easy option, rather than least-worst option as it is the largest-pool not necessarily the least-worst option and I would expect the US dollar holdings would bleed into other better-options with time and feasibility.

As well between the fifth and sixth paragraph would you mind expanding to describe the process by which credit for some reason unstated ceases to exist? There seems to be a link missing here in your argument. I am sure this is clear in your mind but not to me as read.

(Due to length continued below)

logout said...

(continued from above ... hope I cut this right:)

You Print this from Lira :

"Yields are low, unemployment up, CPI numbers are down (and under some metrics, negative)—in short, everything screams “deflation”.

But you do not include his reasoning and conclusion, which starts with this statement:

"But hyperinflation is not an extension or amplification of inflation. Inflation and hyperinflation are two very distinct animals. They look the same—because in both cases, the currency loses its purchasing power—but they are not the same.

I think this should be addressed. Incidentally, in my thinking, we have been experiencing mild hyperinflation ever since the Fed was born (that's not quite correct but close enough for now I hope). Inflation I would think of as an increase of money supply to match increase in production and services.

There are a couple of other points that stood out, but enough for now.

At the moment I stand between both you and Lira holding Cash (Can:) ,PM's and some energy stocks and as well live a fairly sustainable lifestyle.

Good fight by both but IMO no knockout blow so far:)

Hombre said...

Woods Walker - If I had known Lira was a "Pinochet apologist" I would not even have read his thoughts--on finances or anything else. A political tyrant IMO.
The Stonelady more than squared Lira's infl- ationista arguments anyway, best I can tell.
Of course I am one that cares less why I am falling off a cliff than I do about trying to land with the least sudden stop!
Infl-... defl-... ation whatever, some manner of financial and cultural demise is in the works when we're in peak debt and peak resources.
Maybe it is the oil... would that be tar-... nation? Maybe I should ask the Stonelady about that! ;-)

Rumor said...


Your 8:47pm comment was delightful and pithy, and has been quoted.

Dan said...

@ scandia


@ logout re: "the knockout blow"

Let me try, metaphorically of course. :)

Let's say The Ben Bernank added several zeroes to several reserve accounts at the FED, thus "printing" a new QUADRILLION dollars next month. (I know. Silly. But bear with me.)

Of course the world would react with horror and laughter. But would this be hyperinflationary in the "price" sense? The answer is a surprising NO...because in a world in which floating exchange rates define the fiat system, the other nations would expand (or contract) their money supplies in response to the U.S. action. And why wouldn't they simply abandon any relationship to the dollar? Because there are tens of trillions of dollar-denominated assets in the vaults of ALL of the nations of the world, and because the world remains addicted to both the dollar regime AND to the USA as the #1 importer of their goods.

Look, I know the example is silly. But hyperinflation like that which happened in Weimar Germany and in Zimbabwe only occurred because the currencies in question were totally isolated from having any real significance vis-a-vis global trade and in relation to the assets held by the nations of the world.

A hyperinflationary depression in the USA is an IMPOSSIBILITY, if the comparison is one drawn to Zimbabwe. HOWEVER, inflating the money supply WILL create increasing pressures on the middle class and on the poor, as the dollars and credit to which they have access will not keep pace with the EVENTUAL devaluation that will take place vis-a-vis the dollar and other currencies.

Yes there will be a DEPRESSION, but it will be an elongated DEFLATIONARY depression (caused by the collapse of hundreds of trillions of dollars in unserviceable obligations), not a Weimar style collapse.

Ilargi said...

Kate, Bluebird and others who have trouble accessing the streaming file for A Century of Challenges:

There is a problem with the Go Daddy servers, which from what we hear will be solved within a few hours.

Another victim of a hacklash? I like that word.

Sorry for any discomfort, but there's nothing we can do right now.


Steve From Virginia said...

Stoneleigh: it's really funny all the talk about hyperinflation (HI) and never (even by professional analysts or economist) a mention of it in China where it is taking place right this minute!

It's always to happen in the US to the doom of all when the structures suggested as supporting HI in the US actually exist in China.

The structures don't exist in the US at all. The 'upper bound' where inflated crude oil prices crash the US economy sets a limit on any devaluation of the buck.

Also: the organic limit to QE is the amount of reserves the recipients of the QE are comfortable with. The recipients are the banks which are clients/owners of the Fed and other central banks. There would be no $quadrillion in QE: the banks would not allow it.

HI is largely a currency phenomenon: a corollary to Stoneleigh's debt observation. Selling debt is a hedge against HI which afflicts cultures that are traditionally debt averse. The US is certainly not debt averse!

Marshall Auerback has made the observation that HI is an output dislocation such as in Weimar losing its Ruhr to the French in 1922.

Hombre said...

WW 8:26 - You also gave me a few appreciative chuckles with your linguistic twists...

" lazy-fair crony capitalism"
"unsustainable suburbia"
I think "Limousine Libertarian" is my favorite! ;-)

I. M. Nobody said...

I think I have already dealt with why Usanistan will not be so easily isolated as Zimbabwe or Wiemar. The thing both regimes had in common was utter powerlessness internationally.

Wiemar had been saddled with enormous foreign debt obligations that had to be paid in gold, Goldmarks or a hard currency. The debt exceeded their gold holdings and after a few years foreign bankers started refusing them loans. Being unwilling to adopt austerity and too militarily weak to restart the war, they did the dirty on their unbacked currency the Papiermark. France seized the Ruhr to take the coal that Germany had been obligated to supply under the treaty. Of course, that went horribly wrong, but the resulting misery did win the Germans a lot of sympathy internationally.

The hyperinflation lasted just over a year, with most of the damage done in the last few months. The Papiermark was replaced by the Rentenmark, which had about the same value as a Goldmark, but was not redeemable and was not legal tender. The Rentenmark killed the inflation and was soon replaced by the gold backed legal tender Reichsmark.

No armies are going to seize US territory anytime soon. No foreign wealth pools are going to refuse to recycle their surplus dollars into Treasuries. For as long as we have the ability to throw T-bombs, there will be a market for T-bills and T-notes. Much of the proceeds above that needed to service the interest will be used to retain that T-bomb throwing ability.

When oil flow is down to a trickle, none of it will matter anymore and most everywhere will have to fall back onto the sharpened sword monetary system. Not long after that Gaia will start to have her say about how things work.

Stoneleigh said...


ghp asks how long the dollar can remain the global reserve currency. Might that status end at the same time as a UST bond market dislocation, or are they independent events?

They could easily end at the same time, and a linkage is certainly plausible. It would be difficult to say though, as there's likely to be so much upheaval before then that making any kind of specific prediction as to how that might play out in practice would be no better than a guess.

Also, do you see the bond market as driven by herd mentality as much as equity markets, or are these investors somehow more rational?

Herding is a characteristic of all markets, hence knee-jerk flights to safety and alternation between complacency and panic. Any kind of collective human behaviour will be subject to herding because picking up on the emotions of others, reflecting them and collectively acting on them is an integral part of what it means to be human (or even mammalian).

lautturi said...

Maybe not many Finnish speakers here but I got myself into making Ubatuba about energy. Soon to follow similar take on economics

logout said...

Hi Dan,

You could be right, I am a mere apprentice to things financial but that said, if you look to
Germany after the war they were in a fit shape to become a dominant industrial force but did not. I do not know if this was caused by debt owed by Germany or other causes resulting in that isolation.

You say

" ... because the world remains addicted to both the dollar regime AND to the USA as the #1 importer of their goods.

Look, I know the example is silly. But hyperinflation like that which happened in Weimar Germany and in Zimbabwe only occurred because the currencies in question were totally isolated from having any real significance vis-a-vis global trade and in relation to the assets held by the nations of the world.

It seems to me that it only takes one addict to swear off that drug and start dumping his junk on the junky market to start a big reduction in the value of that drug and where do things go to

Don't know how much sense that made, but wife and so life call me to matters of the season, so have to run.

Thanks very much for your reply, I will re-read it later and see if I can think things through more clearly. One really doesn't get things straight except by expressing them to other amenable minds and trying to understand their thoughts in turn.

rcg1950 said...

Kunstler has taken notice of the Lira/Stoneleigh debate over at his site in his "Daily Grunt" comment. He says:

"Very Important debate on deflation versus inflation... pitting Gonzalo Lira in the Inflation corner and Nicole Foss (writing as "Stoneleigh" on The Automatic Earth website) in the deflation corner. While Mr. Lira is charming, witty, and smart, I tend to side with Ms. Foss, who is brilliant, lucid, and compassionate."

I think JHK is dead on in his assessment.

logout said...

Dan just a quick thought on your ending paragraph before turning in. Off to the big city tomorrow so won't get a chance then.

You said:

"Yes there will be a DEPRESSION, but it will be an elongated DEFLATIONARY depression (caused by the collapse of hundreds of trillions of dollars in unserviceable obligations), not a Weimar style collapse."

The other example of a long deflationary depression, other than the thirties, when
the US was a power house of industry and opportunity is the one of Japan where they have, I understand, been living off their savings. The US today has few of these benefits: savings, industry, or natural wealth (eg. petroleum) and so I do not see how they could support an elongated deflationary depression. I could very well be wrong but I think the world is waking to what is going on re 'reserve currency status' in which case would you settle for a short snappy deflation with a currency collapse? Otherwise,for the moment anyway, it is still seems to me stagnation and mild to moderate inflation. The small deeps last while the greater pond shrinks.

BTW Loved your my silly video take on deflation" as well as the others. Good work and not at all silly but very enjoyable - I pass them on as I see them.

snuffy said...

What I see as affecting how this deflationista/Inflationista plays out in real life, more than most of us believe is the probability of some sort of black swan event occurs that is a complete game changer.
Don't ask me to make the call on what it might be.Some thoughts I have had are...
1# Some REAL hair-brained fiscal policy actions by congress that has unintended consequence.Think what the congressscritters have just done/[are trying to do] to taxes system,as well as SSA ect.

2# WAR.We could ,[and probably will]see real thermal-nuclear war during most our lifetimes,say the next 30 years.Or tomorrow.All bets off for the species [ours and many others]if we walk down that dark path.

3#Outside events.What has been shown to us in stark clarity has been the utter incompetence of our own,and other members of the world political class.The majority have shown themselves to be little more than greedy theistic,or thugs...whatever country,whatever system.

Any of those could trigger major instability leading to widespread collapse of the entire game.

Then the term "on your own" gets a whole new meaning.

Way tired,and lots of un-fun work on the morrow

Bee good or
Bee careful


Coco said...

So for those of us in perifery countries, is it just a matter of staying in the euro and keeping our ears open?

We´ve finally found and purchased our country place in rural Spain (and we´re pretty excited about it), but it will require a hefty investment in time and money to renovate. I expect the renovations to take at least a year and a lot of our savings to make habitable, so there may not be much cash left to worry about. But the process gives us the opportunity to involve ourselves in the local scene and invest there.

I have my doubts about Spanish government bonds, to say the least, and you have to purchase them through banks anyway. Keeping dollars seems awkward. Gold is subject to deflation in the short term and you can´t eat it. I don´t even know how to go about opening a German account, and could you access it once TSHTF?

I´m sure other readers in the EU all have their questions.

Thank you!

Dan said...

@ logout

Thanks. You may be right about the speed of the next "leg down". I tend to believe that the government has many many options open to it---not the least of which being the drums of war---as a way to mitigate the apparent impact of the "long emergency" (JHK)

I still contend that the leaders of the nations of the world are right now hoping, every evening over their snifters of brandy, that disaster strikes afar FIRST. Everyone knows there are screamingly bad times on the horizon; I believe that men like our President (etc.) are simply praying that they can delay and temper the decline.

logout said...

Okay!, Okay!, Dave ...

Thought about it over overnight and I'll give you >(.5%) deflation for every (5%) more unemployment you give me! Now you can's say fairer than that, now can you ,eh?


Metanis said...

I'm keeping an eye on the California situation. Like the proverbial canary I think their process toward resolution will be instructive to how the nation handles it's problems.

[ ]

is worrying because even the incoming retread of a governor admits “We’ve been living in a fantasy world,” Brown said Tuesday. “It’s much worse than I thought.”

Why would you admit you ran for an office without having done the due diligence to understand the situation you faced?

Not very reassuring is it?

Ilargi said...

US offers Bradley Manning plea bargain for incriminating Assange


Alan2102 said...

Shadowstats’ John Williams Expects Hyperinflation Within Months:


But as for me, I'm an idiot with a broken crystal ball. I don't know what the hell is going to happen. All I do know is that huge, epochal changes are afoot... and that I am protected against both inflationary and deflationary events in the coming maelstrom. Thanks. Amen.

jal said...

The predators, the carrion eaters, the survivors.
Its are cruel world.,1083,contentCode-10796_divId-4_langId-1_navCode-112,00.html

Under the terms of the agreement, each outstanding share of M&I will be exchanged for 0.1257 shares of Bank of Montreal upon closing. Based on the closing share price of Bank of Montreal on the TSX of C$62.05 on December 16, 2010, the transaction values each share of M&I at US$ 7.75, or an aggregate amount of approximately US$4.1 billion in Bank of Montreal common shares. The closing share price of M&I on NYSE on December 16 was US$5.79.

Absorbing M&I's 374 branches will bring BMO's total number of U.S. branches to almost 700. BMO already has a strong presence in Chicago with its Harris subsidiary.
BNN's Michael Kane said that raises the question of whether M&I's assets will be folded into the Harris portfolio.
BMO said it will maintain strong capital ratios once the deal is finalized. The bank intends to raise an additional $800 million before the sale is approved.
M&I has US$51.9 billion in assets.
Mark Furlong, M&I's chairman, president and CEO, is staying on to become the head of BMO's combined U.S. personal and commercial banking business in Chicago.
BMO is acquiring all outstanding M&I shares in a stock-for-stock transaction. Each M&I share will be exchanged for 0.1257 shares of Bank of Montreal based on Thursday's closing stock market figures, according to a statement.
Each M&I share is valued at US$7.75. BMO shares are valued at $62.05 apiece.

jal said...

The BIG BOYS are benefiting from DEflation. Buying M&I is a perfect example.
BMO is acquiring all outstanding M&I shares in a stock-for-stock transaction. Each M&I share will be exchanged for 0.1257 shares of Bank of Montreal based on Thursday's closing stock market figures, according to a statement.
Each M&I share is valued at US$7.75. BMO shares are valued at $62.05 apiece.

If you assume that the assets of BMO are valued fairly, and at market then BMO is buying the same amount of assets for ONLY 0.1257.

It takes money/cash to benefit from deflation.

FB said...


Many people seem to think that PMs (notably gold) will protect them during deflation. Given the speculative component in the price paid by most people (i.e. purchases made over the past two to three years), particularly in the current price, that strikes me as risky.

When push comes to shove and many people must sell off their holdings, PM prices could well collapse, at least momentarily. The reputation of PMs will take a hit. That will be the time to buy, not now.


ric2 said...

Hi Stoneleigh -

Your current "Debunking Gonzalo Lira and Hyperinflation" posting came up in the comments section over at

Here is a snippet between one of the commenters and Chris:

Commenter AR:

Nicole's argument pivots on the assertion that the Bond market has the power to curtail any money printing adventures by the Fed.

"Central authorities cannot print cash to alter this situation, as this would trigger an enormous increase in the risk premium charged by the bond market." -Nichole Foss.

This point is not clear to me.

Martenson's response:

Me neither. At the moment, the Fed is the bond market.

I can't imagine the Fed charging itself any sort of a risk premium.

And Martenson later adds:

...although the bond markets are punishing the European continent a bit right now.

If the ECB would just do what the Fed has done and become the bond market, they could get the genie temporarily back in the bottle.

The problem is Germany knows how that story ends and doesn't want to go there.

I'd be interested to hear your and Ilargi's response.

jal said...

If you can read between the lines, the authors know but are not saying
... securitization of mortgages was a scam to get at the pools of pension fund money.

Mortgage financing reform needed to avoid another crisis: report

Among the report’s recommendations:

In order to reduce the mismatch between mortgage lending (long-term) and borrowing (short-term), the U.S. should reduce the effective term of its mortgages from 30-40 years to the current Canadian effective mortgage term limit of five years. Canada should not, as some have argued, extend its mortgage term beyond the current five-year limit.

Banks should be required to issue an obligation to repurchase all securitized debt instruments (including mortgages and asset-backed commercial paper) to keep them on their books and not sell them off to unregulated entities—and maintain sufficient liquidity to meet these obligations.

Better regulation and oversight of the securitization process is needed in both Canada and the U.S.
U.S. mortgage institutions should be offered bank-like protection and be required to meet bank-like equity and capital requirements.

“Without significant changes to the U.S. mortgage financing system, another U.S. financial crisis is an accident waiting to happen,” Donner says.
If you can read between the lines, the authors know but are not saying

... securitization of mortgages was a scam to get at the pools of pension fund money.

December 2010
What Can Be Learned from the Financial Crisis
in the U.S. and the Much Milder Crisis in Canada?
By Douglas Peters and Arthur Donner

jal said...

If you want to read news/blog from across the pond bookmark the following

I. M. Nobody said...

So, John Williams, everybody's favorite statistician, thinks Usanistan will subject itself to catastrophic hyperinflation rather than default on debts. How quaint. What, does he think our ruling class is made up entirely of saintly souls, willing to take one for the benefit of the rest of humanity.

These two pieces should help dispel that notion in the minds of our readers.

The Globalization of Militarism

Obama's March to Folly

The propaganda machine has been laying the ground work for a long time. Once the Republic has piled up failures beyond anyone's power to refutiate, as Sister Sarah might say, it will have to be replaced. Either the people will unknowingly vote it away, as happened to the Wiemar Republic in 1932, or the Generals will stage a coup.

Then those T-bombs will really come into their own. The dollar will once again have precious metal backing. Only this time the metals will be Uranium and Plutonium. And nobody is going to be demanding redemption.

Snuffy's concern about a T-bomb war might happen, but I think all the T-bomb holders would probably see the wisdom of participating in the new monetary system. Of course, they will want to maintain their monopoly status. Bad news for any country trying to join the club. The dollar will be worth whatever the Military Financial Unprincipled Killmasters say it is worth. Anyone refusing to accept them in payment for their valuables will receive a demonstration of just what redemption in fissionable metals means.

In Chairman Mao's time, power came from the barrel of a gun. Tomorrow, it will come from a Minuteman silo or the missile tubes of a Trident submarine. It will be a very ugly world, but not necessarily radioactive. And, of course, it will all fall apart in the end. The Universe had the good sense to make its constituent bodies into little balls laced with limited amounts of useful resources and spaced very far apart.

Hombre said...

Ilargi - I'm with Conyers on this one. From your link...
"Many feel that the WikiLeaks publication was offensive. But being unpopular is not a crime and publishing offensive information is not, either. And the repeated calls from politicians, journalists and other so-called experts crying out for criminal prosecutions or other extreme measures make me very uncomfortable."

Actually I am more in tune with Ron Paul who has supported the free speech element in this case against a hail of criticism from many of his peers.

I'd like to think that Conyers, Paul, and a few others are being honest, and aren't sufficiently "connected" (as in mud-stained, or blood-stained) to the ruling power complex to sustain injury by what is being revealed.

The Big Bad Bucket has sprung a leak and I hope it gushes, and in some way works against the war/corporate and financial machines which are ravaging everything and everybody.

scandia said...

@Ilargi, The pressure on Manning to sell out Assange must be enormous. A get out of jail free card must be very tempting.Plus who knows what other " incentives" are being offered on the QT?

@FB, I bought silver for the first time to support the Crash JPMorgan campaign. I was thinking of buying more as a hedge against currency devaluation. Then I remembered the admonishment " to buy the dips" :)

an anecdote...I called First Majestic in Vancouver this morning to track my silver order. I asked if there is a supply problem. She said no, just that there has been a sharp jump in orders. I asked if that was because of the Crash JPMorgan protest. She laughed heartily, clearly knowing all about that.

@IMN...your writing is most energetic these days. I am enjoying your posts immensely as in" The universe had the good sense to make its constituent bodies into little balls laced with limited amounts of useful resources and spaced very far apart."
See, even the universe hedges its bets!

@Snuffy, one black swann not discussed much recently is disease,a pandemic.

I. M. Nobody said...


I am gratified that you found a pearl among my ravings. Yes, I agree that the universe does hedge and does it very well.

Regarding PFC Manning, this article conveys some idea of how he is being pressured. Forgetting Bradley Manning

scandia said...

@IMN...jeez, I didn't know about the conditions he is held in! Barbaric! And authority administered drugs? Truth serum perhaps? Like a Bond film. May the force and our prayers be with this lowly private with humungus cajones.My gratitude has escalated big time!

scandia said...

I didn't know that Satan sent out a Christmas letter but Charles Hugh Smith rec'd one.'s-Christmas-Letter12-10.html

Satan will be so pleased to find the Irish pension fund under his tree.

Alice Quirky said...

I have a concern I haven't been able to get an answer to and thought maybe Stoneleigh or Ilargi could help me out with. I'm worried about the loss of my savings if the currency is reissued at say 2:1 or 3:1. If I have Canadian dollars instead of USD would I then be able to get 2 or 3 USD for every CA dollar I have, assuming they are about par? Wouldn't this be a way to preserve the value of my savings?

I. M. Nobody said...


That Satan is a cheeky character isn't he? Got to give him credit though. The plan has been working.

Not everyone has been unaware though. Eighty years ago, the aged Oglalla Sioux holy man Black Elk had this exchange with John G. Neihardt.

"The Great Spirit made the Two-Legged to live like relatives with the Four-Legged and the Wings of the Air and all things that live and are green. But the white man has put us in a little island and in other little islands he has put the four-legged beings; and steadly the islands grow smaller; for around them surges the hungry flood of the Wasichu (white men) and it is dirty with lies and greed."

At such a time one could insist with pathetic truth that there are many, many good men and women among the "Wasichu." "of course." Was the reply, "but surely they, too, shall drown."

From Black Elk Speaks by John G. Neihardt, University of Nebraska Press.

lautturi said...

Ilargi, here's a bit extra to go with that Manning story. Boy has had quite a "treat" from uncle Scam - 7 months in isolation and lately heavily pumped with antidepressants. I gather authorities are ready to believe man is ripe enough now offering that plea bargain for pointing finger at Assagne.

One can only imagine what kind of treatment non-US-nonbelievers/whatnot are treated with.

lautturi said...

Oh yeah, let's play with words... It seems to me PIGS-countries have morphed into BIGPIGS-countries.

Great Britain

Any others? Hungary? Romania? Austria? ...and this of course is only the €uroland list. I'm sure we can have loads of fun with these in the near future - until it hits home that is...

Hombre said...

IMN - I read "Black Elk Speaks" long ago, the 70's during the Castenada phase of my offbeat education.
re: "...and surely they too shall drown."

We have around here many communities of Amish who have little in the way of electrical or gas powered amenities, gardens, horsepower, cows, chickens, etc.
I often wonder if in the future as things regress if...
"they too shall drown."

I. M. Nobody said...


We have our Amish communities over here in Iowa as well. We have had quite a few dealings with some of the farmers and merchants. I don't want to hazard a guess as to whether they WILL drown, but I think they could be swept down with the rest of us.

Our Amish (we also have Mennonites and hard to tell who is who) seem to rely a lot on tractors for farming and the merchants certainly have electricity. I fear we may have compromised their culture, as we did to Black Elk's, just enough to make them almost as vulnerable as our kind.

I just started Black Elk Speaks, a gift from someone that knows it well and thought I might learn something from it. She was so right. :)

scandia said... Castenada. Sounds like we " educated " by the same teacher.

scandia said...

@Lautturi...the further details you posted on Manning are so distressing!!!!!!!

Legendary Armor Rōnin said...

December 2010
What Can Be Learned from the Financial Crisis in the U.S. and the Much Milder Crisis in Canada?
By Douglas Peters and Arthur Donner
Posted December 17, 2010 12:12 PM

It is to laugh; "much milder" only because Canada is five years behind the U.S. in experiencing the crisis. But by now there ain't no escaping - Canada has moved beyond the event horizon. There Will be Blood.

Although to be fair, despite the Canadian crisis being sure to deepen and cause untold agony, it's very likely to be less severe in its entirety than is the full crisis in the U.S.

snuffy said...

Honestly,scandia,The bio-warfare threat is the one there is no protection I can think of,outside of total Isolation....and then,what if the transmission vector is something is so many creepy variations that could be used by our/their brilliant,but psychotic weapon race-based disease,or 2or 3 part binary systems where a target population would have to be infected by several different agents to have lethal effect.[makes things a little more easy to control who gets sick/dead.[Ya don't want it to spread too far ya know...]
One report I read a long time ago consisted of a detailed examination of the corn genome.One of the uses of all the genetic information that was being collected was to help with the design a corn/maize that would have a natural biological contraceptive that would be effective on humans.
Think about that one for a while....

You know how corn pollinates?. By wind.Plant a little of this stuff where it would affect the local corn and clear a whole country in a generation.

Look at what has happened in Africa with AIDS.Whole countries adult populations wiped out.They won't mind if we or the Chinese use all those minerals and timber and land that was theirs now...

Lots of sane,rational folks,[especially black folks] think AIDS was man-made,for use over the long term to cut the "undesirable" populations down.They think that maybe we are seeing bio-warfare now,on the quiet.

There is a part of me that screams that the whole race is on a edge of a raging,hellish bloodbath the likes we have never seen before.The absolute insane antics of those in power,the wealthy demanding their taxes be lowered and their children form a new`aristocracy to rule as they see fit..Chaos rising....

Its going Orwellian as we watch.

Worked way hard today in the cold.Time for sleep

Bee good,or
Bee careful


LBD said...

Hello - Excellent! I finally figured out where to ask questions on Nicole's articles etc!
Another financial novice here but I'm really working on it. Thanks for this last one, Nicole, I've studied it and finally understand the herding behavior concept and how it indicates when we're close to a turning point. So interesting.

What I still don't understand is why short-term treasuries are safer than FDIC insured savings - I understand that the insurance is a confidence game but why aren't treasuries also endangered? I've opened a Treasury Direct acct but am still hesitating to make a deposit - doesn't feel safe to me. Can you or anyone else explain?

Ahimsa said...

Snuffy, you're right. This article came to mind:

"Genetically Modified Mosquitos"

Scary stuff!

anon10 said...

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Global systemic crisis: Second half of 2011 - European context and US catalyst - Explosion of the Western public debt bubble

Nassim said...

Lots of sane,rational folks,[especially black folks] think AIDS was man-made,for use over the long term to cut the "undesirable" populations down


I always wondered why my HIV-prevention concept , although it did get FDA-approval, never caught on with the people who are supposed to be guarding our health. I mean, I have even been accused in writing by medical professionals of "encouraging promiscuity".

Recently, I wrote to the guy who is supposed to be protecting us, in Melbourne, from HIV and he sent a very polite reply congratulating me on my "effort" 30 minutes later. A quick check of my site's log confirmed that he never visited my website. On the one hand he told the newspaper that gays are looking at the risk/reward before going ahead and on the other his time is too valuable to look at any new idea. My concept is designed precisely to help get the "risk" part objectively right.

I think that it is very easy to assume that the people who rule us - whether they know that they rule us or not - are out to get us. However, I think it is often more a matter of laziness and a lack of openness to new ideas and ways of looking at things. For some reason, HIV is looked on as a problem for medical professionals even before anyone is infected. Quite silly really as they have no special knowledge there.

Baby Boomer said...


And we've heard it all before. You're playing the same record over and over again.

Why not stretch a little and try to break some new ground. Investigate why what you say hasn't happened yet.

For example:

Why has the suspension of disbelief persisted?

What mechanisms are at work to maintain mass-delusion? Enumerate them and explain them and try to understand how they operate.

You have an unsatisfying short-hand explanation for the delay: "Statistical uncertainty" surrounding nested Eliot Waves or some such thing.

That's a meaningless term -- an empty phrase that is meant to sound sophisticated. You don't have a statistical framework for your model and so just saying "statistical uncertainty" is an empty phrase.

zander said...

Hey check this wikileak !

Specifically point no 3.
Hmmm, I wonder which particular suckers the banks had in mind to sell those "unwanted illiquid securities" to?, good god you couldn't make this stuff up, basically, what King is saying is......we need to find a bigger fool sharpish, so's the banks don't have to take the rap for crapping in everyone's nest.
I know this isn't news here, but it's ugly to see it so blatantly exposed.


scandia said...

@Snuffy,..." what if the transmission vector is money..." Oh my gawd, that is perfection! The dark side is so-o-o smart! No wonder we haven't won a round yet, no wonder we hold our breaths waiting for a natural systems dynamic of collapse to save us.

In response to the Manning articles a friend sent me a couple of Ted Talks on the moral mind. The talks are based on an assumption that we are born with a moral mind. Your insights into weapons of destruction/control challenge that supposition. Clearly some folks break free of moral constraint. These folks must be terribly amused to witness efforts to live a moral and ethical life. Stoneleigh often speaks of the behaviours of society in times of plenty that will not hold in times of want. The Ted Talks on morality were based on research conducted during times of plenty. We'll have to wait to see if the conclusions drawn on that research hold up in conditions of peak everything and institutional malfeasance.

@Stoneleigh, I think you have done some work in neuroscience? I can't even form my question but one lurks outside my awareness. Back to the old debate of nurture versus nature I think. Even that is too simple a format.Maybe we find what we look for? I get so nervous when scientists start nailing down morality as objective, not subjective.

Dan said...

@ baby boomer

Here's one attempt at addressing your question to Stoneleigh:

"Disbelief" IMO has little to do with present underlying facts, and much to do with the government's adroit manipulation of our tendency to "think" irrationally. Thus suspension cannot be measured in finite terms; the relationship is logarithmic...once the disbelief wagon leaves the station, this progress exponentially rather than in a linear manner.

jal said...


Bank of America just fired the preemptive escalation shot in its duel with Wikileaks.It announced it is joining MasterCard, Paypal and Visa in ceasing transactions for Wikileaks.

As expected, Wikileaks has already retaliated: in two sequential tweets it advised its 568,117 (and very rapidly growing) subscribers to pull their money out of Bank of America, and also to close all their accounts with the firm, urging them to put their money "somewhere safer."


"King said there are two imperatives. First to find ways for banks to avoid the stigma of selling unwanted paper at distressed prices or going to a central bank for assistance. Second to ensure there's a coordinated effort to possibly recapitalize the global banking system."

I am so glad that they lied.

I am so glad that they kicked the can down the road.

Keep printing boys!

I want to live pass Xmas.

jal said...


How Arab governments tried to silence WikiLeaks
An appetite for state secrets led to bans on western newspapers and hacked news websites across the Middle East

jal said...

Regarding PFC Manning, Is he a “regular” whistleblower, a traitor, or a spy?

Global Research 
Who is Behind Wikileaks?

by Michel Chossudovsky December 13, 2010

In the case of Wikileaks, the facts are contained in a data bank; many of those facts, particularly those pertaining to foreign governments serve US foreign policy interests. Other facts tend, on the other hand to discredit the US administration. With regard to financial information, the release of data pertaining to a particular bank instigated via Wikileaks by a rival financial institution, could potentially be used to trigger the collapse or bankrutpcy of the targeted financial institution.     

While the numerous pieces of information contained in the Wikileaks data bank are accessible, the broader public will not normally take the trouble to consult and scan through the Wikileaks data bank. The public will read the redacted selections and interpretations presented in major news outlets.

The Economist has a close relationship to Britain's financial elites. It is an establishment news outlet, which has, on balance, supported Britain's involvement in the Iraq war. It bears the stamp of the Rothschild family. Sir Evelyn Robert Adrian de Rothschild was chairman of The Economist from 1972 to 1989. His wife Lynn Forester de Rothschild currently sits on The Economist's board. The Rothschild family also has a sizeable shareholder interest in The Economist. 

jal said...

The broader question is why would Julian Assange receive the support from Britain's foremost establishment news outfit which has consistently been involved in media disinformation?
Are we not dealing with a case of "manufactured dissent", whereby the process of supporting and rewarding Wikileaks for its endeavors, becomes a means of controlling and manipulating the Wikileaks project, while at the same time embedding it into the mainstream media.

It is also worth mentioning another important link. Julian Assange's lawyer Mark Stephens of Finers Stephens Innocent (FSI), a major London elite law firm, happens to be the legal adviser to the Rothschild Waddesdon Trust. While this in itself does prove anything, it should nonetheless be examined in the broader context of Wikileaks' social and corporate entourage: the NYT, the CFR, The Economist, Time Magazine, Forbes, Finers Stephens Innocent (FSI), etc. 

DIYer said...

I have a question for Stoneleigh, and perhaps it requires an entire keypost.

What is the mechanism by which bond rates will rise?

Let me elaborate a bit -- yes, I can see that if I'm managing money for a pension or something (I may be dumb but I'm starting to think I might be smarter than some MMs), I want a rate as high as I can get, right? Especially if I think money will be debased over the next ten years, I would want enough interest to compensate for that. Naturally.

And indeed, I'm seeing articles on ZH about the rates actually climbing.

BUT, and this seems like a big one, how can market forces work if it's just the Fed buying up bonds from the Treasury at whatever rate they agree upon (a very low one, apparently)? I mean, Tyler has been running articles predicting which CUSIPs will be bought, and gloating about it a few hours later when he's 80% to 100% correct. What keeps the entire bond market from consisting of nothing but this circle-jerk between Tsy and Fed?

Hombre said...

Baby B - "And we've heard it all before. You're playing the same record over and over again."

Yep. Why? Because it is terrific and we like it... Just like 1957...

Ilargi said...

New post up.

Kicking the Snowball Down the Road


Hombre said...

It's already cold in Brussels and the "Big Three" plus a few other European nations calling for a freeze!
LONDON (AFP) – Three of the European Union's big four states on Saturday demanded a freeze in the EU budget, saying Brussels cannot carry on spending more money as countries fight to sort their finances out.

Some great earth stuff from Naomi Klein!